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Ashamed of the Gospel? Missed Opportunity at Virginia Tech
Townhall ^ | April 22, 2007 | Frank Pastore

Posted on 04/22/2007 4:42:02 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Harrius Magnus

He did quote the 5th verse of the first chapter of Saint John’s Gospel, “the light shines in the darkness and the darkness has not overcome it.” The light refers to Christ. So, there was at least some Christianity in the sermon.


21 posted on 04/22/2007 7:05:09 AM PDT by me1og
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To: M. Dodge Thomas
How would you have felt if the muslim speaker had invited the audience to find salvation through the acknowledgement of Allah as the one true prophet?

I would have said he was wrong in his belief and would have tried to lead him to Christ through the Bible.

IMO, a memorial service of this sort is not the place for proselytizing - by anyone...

IMHO, EVERYWHERE is the place to talk about the Gospel of Christ. Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Matthew 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

...and to have done so would have been found highly offensive by many listeners.

Yea, look what happened to Jesus when He offended the religious leaders of His day.

22 posted on 04/22/2007 7:07:04 AM PDT by WileyPink ("...I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." John 14:6a)
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To: M. Dodge Thomas
Read the article- that is in effect what the muslim speaker did. Every prayer to Allah has a supreme purpose- for everyone to see the one true light. Sometimes it is too subtle for the audience to recognize that is what they are being subjected to.

At the very least he quoted the Koran. Would you have found an ECLA minister quoting the Bible to be “proselytizing”? In these PC times I’m guessing the answer would be “yes”.

23 posted on 04/22/2007 7:07:29 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: Bulldawg Fan
Jesus was very clear about what happens to men who deny him in front of other men........

Yes, as all who deny Him will find out, If you deny me before men, I will deny you before God. Jesus, Mt 10:33

24 posted on 04/22/2007 7:31:45 AM PDT by thiscouldbemoreconfusing
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To: Kaslin

They shouldn’t have allowed a Muslim to speak anyway, that’s BS.


25 posted on 04/22/2007 7:46:27 AM PDT by Contra
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To: WileyPink
IMHO, EVERYWHERE is the place to talk about the Gospel of Christ.

Please remember that when you next . . .
visit the public library,
go to a theater,
or eat at a nice restaurant.

And don't just speak in hushed tones to those nearby. Be obnoxious! Speak quite LOUDLY to all who are present and forget all about propriety, courtesy, and good manners. Go for it!! Afterall, Christians should not be ashamed of the Gospel, should the?.

Go Get em, Wiley!

26 posted on 04/22/2007 7:50:19 AM PDT by Zechariah11
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To: Zechariah11

LOL!


27 posted on 04/22/2007 7:53:03 AM PDT by Wormwood (Future Former Freeper)
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To: Kaslin

My wife mentioned the very same thing to me after we heard the respective invocations. We also noticed that they put the Buddhist lady b/w the Muslim and the Jewish speakers — perhaps also not to “offend”...


28 posted on 04/22/2007 8:01:19 AM PDT by mikrofon (Lord's Day BUMP)
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To: Vanders9
Perhaps the best at presenting the distinctions of the Gospel in a situation similar to this was how Billy Graham handled it at the Nixon funeral many years ago.

I believe that Richard Nixon right now is with Pat again, because I believe that in heaven we will know each other. The Bible says, "For to me to live is Christ and to die is gain." There's a gaining about death. For the believer, the brutal fact of death has been conquered by the resurrection of Jesus Christ. For the person who has turned from sin and has received Christ as Lord and Saviour, death is not the end. For the believer, there's hope beyond the grave. There's a future life.

Yesterday, as his body was escorted to the plane for its final journey here, the band played and the familiar strains of a hymn he especially loved -- maybe the hymn that he loved the most were played: Amazing Grace, how sweet the sound, that saved a wretch like me. I once was lost, but now I'm found, was blind but now I see. Through many dangers, toils and snares, I've already come. 'Tis grace that brought me safe thus far, for grace will take me home.

That hymn was written 200 years ago by an Englishman named John Newton. He was a cruel man, a captain of a slave ship. But one night in a fierce storm, he turned to God and committed his life to Christ. Newton not only became a preacher of the gospel, but he influenced William Wilberforce and others in Parliament to bring an end to the slave trade. John Newton came to know the miracle of God's amazing grace, and it changed his life. And it changed our lives as well.

29 posted on 04/22/2007 8:01:43 AM PDT by Zechariah11
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To: Contra

Wasn’t he representing Cho?


30 posted on 04/22/2007 8:03:11 AM PDT by missnry (The truth will set you free!)
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To: Zechariah11
Go Get em, Wiley!

Oh I do try...but with a little, "meekness and fear". (1Peter 3:15b)

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The verse reference below the crosses is John 14:6, btw. Wiley

31 posted on 04/22/2007 8:07:31 AM PDT by WileyPink ("...I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." John 14:6a)
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To: WileyPink
Nice truck.

Are the other drivers supposed to know John 14:6, have a Bible handy, or just remember the reference until they get home and rush to look it up?

32 posted on 04/22/2007 8:12:11 AM PDT by Zechariah11
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To: WileyPink

Btw, the decal looks great as does the truck.


33 posted on 04/22/2007 8:16:15 AM PDT by Zechariah11
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To: Zechariah11
Are the other drivers supposed to know John 14:6, have a Bible handy, or just remember the reference until they get home and rush to look it up?

I usually get one of three reactions...(1)They'll ask me what that verse is (Opening an excellent opportunity to witness), (2)They'll already know the verse and we begin a conversation about Christ (Which is very edifying to me), (3)No response at all.

Either way, I don't shove it down any body's throat but it does open the doors.

34 posted on 04/22/2007 8:19:02 AM PDT by WileyPink ("...I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." John 14:6a)
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To: Zechariah11
Btw, the decal looks great as does the truck Thanks, the truck is kinda like its owner...the pictures are much better than real life...lol.

btw, on the last point of your question ...or just remember the reference until they get home and rush to look it up?

If that happens, didn't the purpose of the decal just work??? hmmmm?

Thanks again

35 posted on 04/22/2007 8:22:48 AM PDT by WileyPink ("...I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." John 14:6a)
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To: Zechariah11
Thanks for the link on your homepage to the Audio Bible Study. I can really use it while I drive.

Wiley

36 posted on 04/22/2007 8:31:09 AM PDT by WileyPink ("...I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." John 14:6a)
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To: WileyPink
Thanks for the link on your homepage to the Audio Bible Study. I can really use it while I drive.

Being able to listen to Rush, Bible studies, audiobooks, or great music is a reason I've always envied truckers. But not having the ability to even park my small car ass-in (or whatever you call it) or knowing the first thing about engines, etc kind of puts me out. Still, I'd love to be out there on the open road, driving a truck, crossing the country and going to places I've never been -- just as long as I don't have to navigate city streets. .

I do have a long commute. Besides the Word, I enjoy audiobooks (far better than radio). Michael Connelley murder mysteries help.

37 posted on 04/22/2007 8:47:44 AM PDT by Zechariah11
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To: WileyPink

Checkmate. You won.


38 posted on 04/22/2007 8:50:04 AM PDT by Zechariah11
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To: Zechariah11
lol, good talking to you. Stay in touch.

Wiley

BTW, if you see my truck, wave...with all fingers!...lol

39 posted on 04/22/2007 8:52:32 AM PDT by WileyPink ("...I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." John 14:6a)
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Bump


40 posted on 04/22/2007 11:03:36 AM PDT by good old days
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