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Explosion in Fort Worth

Posted on 04/23/2007 5:22:42 AM PDT by rahbert

Explosion reported in Fort Worth location unknown. Flames 1000 feet high according to WBAP.


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To: johnny7

>>Just ask any wingnut who tried to jumpstart his grill with high-test.<<

I don’t know - I heard you can put out matches by putting them in gasoline - it was on the Internet so you knows its true...


51 posted on 04/23/2007 6:15:28 AM PDT by gondramB (It wasn't raining when Noah built the ark.)
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To: Milwaukee_Guy
In many ways we seem to be sliding into Third World Status. Huge fire shooting up into the sky and by tomorrow you won’t hear squat about this story. Just another indicator our infrastructure is falling apart. Ho Hum.....

I work in the industry. You'd be surprised how often this type of thing happens when contractors hit a line that was not marked or marked properly. Lots of times a backhoe contractor for another utility or project will say "I can see the pipeline markers; I don't need to do a one-call and have to wait 48-hours for someone to mark it." Or if they hit it and it doesn't leak immediately, they cover the dent and go on their way. However, the coating has been damaged and the possibility that a future leak will occur due to corrosion is great. Also, contractors will put a guy on a backhoe that can't speak English well and hasn't been safety trained. When you have buried utilities, you make sure you hand dig anytime you're crossing buried lines.

52 posted on 04/23/2007 6:21:56 AM PDT by CedarDave
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To: rahbert

Sheryl Crow’s head exploded when she learned the facts about global warming.


53 posted on 04/23/2007 6:29:28 AM PDT by Zman
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To: tiredoflaundry

No that is a good 30 to 45 minute drive from DFW airport, and probably at least 20 miles direct straight line.


54 posted on 04/23/2007 6:30:23 AM PDT by VRWCmember (Go Rudy Go! (And take McCain with you!))
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To: Milwaukee_Guy
Amazing how captivated the media is with fire.

Who can blame them? I love a good bonfire.

55 posted on 04/23/2007 6:30:40 AM PDT by SittinYonder (Ic ■Št gehate, ■Št ic heonon nelle fleon fotes trym, ac wille fur­or gan)
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To: rahbert

Isn’t ALGORE in that area visiting Crow and Laurie on their Earth Day bus to green up Algore’s wallet. The bus runs on methane and Algore offered to refuel them from his intestinal gases. Perhaps this was a refueling accident?


56 posted on 04/23/2007 6:33:55 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: rahbert

I came up I-30 this morning and missed the show.


57 posted on 04/23/2007 6:38:03 AM PDT by No Blue States
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To: jwparkerjr
I’m not so sure flames could reach and maintain 1,000 feet high.

Here are a couple of links to a gas fire in Chicago in 1998. This fire was fed by a high pressure 24" gas line that was ruptured by construction equipment. It took 30 minutes for the pipeline to shut down and for the residual pressure to escape.

http://www.suntimes.com/realchicago/1990s/13.html

http://www.robotwisdom.com/img2/fire.jpg

58 posted on 04/23/2007 6:48:37 AM PDT by esarlls3
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To: CedarDave
If I did the link right, here is a pic of the emergency venting area where the NG was released and the fire was raging. I always thought this was a steam release vent.

http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&tab=wl&q=

The NG release last Thursday was shooting gas 100' up with a huge gas gas cloud much higher drifting South.

59 posted on 04/23/2007 6:49:40 AM PDT by Deguello
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To: rahbert

What amazes me is that right before the summer driving season every year, there is always some sort of refinery mishap or pipeline shutdown.......something!

Then gas prices soar. Then next you hear of RECORD profits from the oil and gas companies.


60 posted on 04/23/2007 6:51:12 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: Deguello

Nope, didn’t work.


61 posted on 04/23/2007 6:51:46 AM PDT by Deguello
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To: Milwaukee_Guy
Amazing how captivated the media is with fire.

That's because it really looks gassy on video, especially at night.

62 posted on 04/23/2007 6:53:31 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (Workers of the world, untie! You have nothing to lose but your shoes!)
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To: CedarDave

CD, you took the words right out of my mouth. That exact scenario happened about 2 miles down the road from me several months ago. The only difference is, the construction guys knew they hit the line, called the gas company who said nothing registered on their equipment. About 2 hrs later “BOOM!”. My parents were able to see the fireball about 60 miles from the blast site.


63 posted on 04/23/2007 6:55:48 AM PDT by Aggie Mama
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To: servantboy777

Good thing I bought RSNRX in early February, more than offsets the higher energy prices.


64 posted on 04/23/2007 6:55:48 AM PDT by east1234 (It's the borders stupid. It's also WWIV.)
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To: jwparkerjr
I’m not so sure flames could reach and maintain 1,000 feet high.

This comes pretty close: Video of Devil's Cigarette Lighter

65 posted on 04/23/2007 7:31:00 AM PDT by rustbucket (E pur si muove)
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To: gondramB
Explosions and fires have been happening around oil and gas a lot longer than there has been a serious threat of terrorism in the U.S.

Safety, safety, safety -- That's the catch word to reduce incidents of this type. Transport of flammable liquids by pipeline is the safest method of transport. Imagine if our energy always traveled by truck or train. However, it is always subject to incidents like this for whatever reason. Federal law requires notification before digging or disturbing a buried line. As of this month there is one national number for notification: 811.

66 posted on 04/23/2007 7:32:00 AM PDT by CedarDave
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To: rustbucket
Very true and very interesting video! Where is Red Adair when you need him? Most news helicopters operate at about 1,000 feet. The actually have an agreement among themselves to use a specific altitude so as to make it less work for the various pilots to keep an eye on them. Some are at 900, others at 1,100, etc. In the Ft. Worth footage the flames are not as high as the helicopter that's doing the shooting. The tops of the flames are well below the altitude of the helicopter. Of course this is all speculation on my part. The FAA might have imposed a TFR around the scene, forcing the coverage to be farther away and higher than usual. I know too it makes no big difference, I just though that flames reaching 1,000 feet are unlikely. In any event, I don't plan to take my tape measure and find out for myself! If you want to go take those measurements I'll wait here for you.
67 posted on 04/23/2007 7:54:24 AM PDT by jwparkerjr
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To: esarlls3

Wow, I’d be running away too! High as those flames are though they are not 1,000 feet. I fly a lot and believe me 1,000 feet is pretty high. Can’t really tell about the distance to the flames in the pictures and the angle at which the shots were taken, but I’d guess they are in the 500 to 600 foot range.

500, 600 or 1,000 that’s a lot of flame!


68 posted on 04/23/2007 7:57:27 AM PDT by jwparkerjr
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To: stockpirate

Did you forget a sarcasm tag or are you really that...special?


69 posted on 04/23/2007 8:19:12 AM PDT by BJClinton (Here is a lesson in creative writing. First rule: Do not use semicolons.)
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To: gondramB
here's how it looks now. Excellent observation!

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70 posted on 04/23/2007 8:19:25 AM PDT by GoBucks2002
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To: Zman
Sheryl Crow’s head exploded when she learned the facts about global warming.

Not only an explosion, a hazmat event as well!

71 posted on 04/23/2007 8:38:10 AM PDT by FourPeas (The right thing to do never requires any subterfuge, it is always simple and direct. Calvin Coolidge)
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To: rahbert
People here at work witnessed this on the way in and said it was bigger in the beginning before the helicopters got there to film it.

Luckily the nearby power station seems unscathed.

72 posted on 04/23/2007 8:50:00 AM PDT by No Blue States
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To: CJ-50

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was fallout make him ugly so”
Hit ‘de dirt!
Join ‘de crowd!
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Hey!
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73 posted on 04/23/2007 8:57:37 AM PDT by Vicomte13 (Le chien aboie; la caravane passe.)
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To: stockpirate
It amazes me that we keep have the blasts in Texas at oil installations but it is NEVER a terrorist attack.

I think the Bush people are withholding the truth from the American people.

It amazes me that there are people who want to believe in conspiracies rather than exercise their brains.

Do you honestly believe there were no explosions, no fires, no accidents at Texas oil installations prior to the global terrorism threat? Refineries are dangerous, volatile places and accidents, including explosions, happen all the time.

74 posted on 04/23/2007 8:59:19 AM PDT by SaveTheChief (Chief Illiniwek (1926-2007))
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To: jwparkerjr

The one mention on ABC radio news said one hundred feet.


75 posted on 04/23/2007 8:59:52 AM PDT by RightWhale (3 May '07 3:14 PM)
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To: SaveTheChief
Do you honestly believe there were no explosions, no fires, no accidents at Texas oil installations prior to the global terrorism threat? Refineries are dangerous, volatile places and accidents, including explosions, happen all the time.

I mean, heck, if you want to blame Bush for covering up SOMETHING in these cases, it's more likely he's helping obscure that the employment of unskilled illegal labor has decreased safety in these industrial locations, creating more accidents.


And people thought this thread couldn't be hijacked by the 'illegal alien' crowd...
76 posted on 04/23/2007 9:18:57 AM PDT by beezdotcom
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To: stockpirate
It amazes me that we keep have the blasts in Texas at oil installations but it is NEVER a terrorist attack.

Number of refineries and oil processing plants in Ft Worth = ZERO.

77 posted on 04/23/2007 9:24:48 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Killing all of your enemies without mercy is the only sure way of sleeping soundly at night.)
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To: stockpirate
It amazes me that we keep have the blasts in Texas at oil installations but it is NEVER a terrorist attack.

Petrochemical plants blow up on a fairly regular basis - they always have. Same thing with train derailments - average of over one a day, last time I looked.

78 posted on 04/23/2007 9:51:57 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: stockpirate

Good Grief


79 posted on 04/23/2007 10:39:35 AM PDT by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES.)
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To: servantboy777
What amazes me is that right before the summer driving season every year, there is always some sort of refinery mishap or pipeline shutdown.......something!

Then gas prices soar. Then next you hear of RECORD profits from the oil and gas companies.


Yes, it is all a giant conspiracy. The oil majors get together in NYC every spring and draw straws to see who will blow up his own plant and property in order to raise prices on servantboy777.

jas3
80 posted on 04/23/2007 10:46:40 AM PDT by jas3
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To: SittinYonder

FIRE! FIRE! FIRE!!!
81 posted on 04/23/2007 11:18:16 AM PDT by TampaDude (If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the PROBLEM!!!)
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To: gondramB

I don’t know - I heard you can put out matches by putting them in gasoline - it was on the Internet so you knows its true...
____________

LOL. I would avoid trying to replicate this experiment in an enclosed space.


82 posted on 04/23/2007 11:27:22 AM PDT by dmz
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To: stockpirate
I was a paid firefighter for ten years, I just do not recall this many events in Texas before.

Global Warming, DUH!! :~)
83 posted on 04/23/2007 12:17:37 PM PDT by msnimje (True Conservatives will not support a pro-abortion candidate.)
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To: jas3
Wow! Nice, my day wouldn’t be complete without a smart A$$
84 posted on 04/23/2007 1:15:22 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: rahbert

I thought that maybe Sheryl “Save the Toilet Paper” Crow blew her top.


85 posted on 04/23/2007 1:24:22 PM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: Froggie

I like to go down there just to walk around - it’s a fun place


86 posted on 04/23/2007 1:50:06 PM PDT by finallyatexan (GO BLUE !!!!)
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To: tiredoflaundry
I live right on the edge of the airport and this is about 20 minutes away.
87 posted on 04/23/2007 1:51:41 PM PDT by finallyatexan (GO BLUE !!!!)
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To: theDentist

Or it was a disgruntled Mavericks fan after last night’s game.


88 posted on 04/23/2007 1:51:50 PM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: finallyatexan

Thanks, the old man got to Ft Worth with no problems. :o)


89 posted on 04/23/2007 2:30:10 PM PDT by tiredoflaundry (The greatest danger to our troops is the Congress of the United States.)
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To: TampaDude

That was COOL!

90 posted on 04/23/2007 2:48:40 PM PDT by Old Sarge (+ /_\)
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To: jwparkerjr

That building is in the 14-story range, which puts the building at a max of 175 feet. Based on the perspective lines shown in the second photo, the flames aren’t much higher than the building... certainly not more than 25% higher than the building. That puts the flames at a max of about 200 feet high.


91 posted on 04/23/2007 3:22:03 PM PDT by BagCamAddict
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To: rustbucket

Classic use of the word “and” to make something seem worse than it is. The narrator says “flames and smoke reached nearly 800 feet in the air.” That could mean flames were 100 feet in the air and smoke was another 700 feet above that. No way to tell how high those flames were, as there was nothing in the footage for scale.


92 posted on 04/23/2007 3:31:02 PM PDT by BagCamAddict
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To: BagCamAddict
You see the number 10,000 frequently in the Bible. I heard it explained once that when you see that number it doesn’t really mean ten thousand, but rather the biggest number you can imagine. They had a much more limited grasp of large numbers in those days and the 10,000 was meant to mean too numerous to count. I think the ‘flames 1,000 feet high” is used the same way. They don’t know exactly how high the flames are but they are certainly the highest they’ve ever seen so they must be a ‘thousand feet’.

I am not being critical of them, they really have no way of knowing the height, but I find it neat that that’s so often the number they use.

A thousand feet is a lot more than most people realize, especially when it’s a thousand feet up! Very few cities have buildings that tall, most TV towers aren’t much more than that.

93 posted on 04/23/2007 4:13:13 PM PDT by jwparkerjr
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To: jwparkerjr

I’m sure you’re right. Like you said, 1000 feet is ALOT more than people realize. I just wish the media would be required to take some classes in the difference between specifics, generalities, estimates, ballpark figures, round numbers, accuracy, order of magnitude, etc.

Words have meaning. Numbers have meaning. They should understand those basic things if they are in the communication business. At the least, they could say “I have no idea how high those flames are, but it looks like it’s over 1000 feet to me!” At least that gives the listener the sense that (a) it’s not an accurate number, and (b) “it sure is high!”


94 posted on 04/23/2007 4:20:44 PM PDT by BagCamAddict
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To: BagCamAddict

Actually they do have training in that sort of thing, and they are dictated to by the style book that the editors are responsible for seeing to it are followed. Wire copy seems to be the bottom of the barrel anymore. I’m not sure anyone even edits the wire stories as they go out. I know for a newspaper there are several levels of editing to make certain everything is kosher from a style standpoint. There’s a lot more attention paid the the details than most readers realize. Most papers even have a weekly or monthly newsroom publication that talks about errors that were allowed to slip through, or better still stories of close calls where a heads-up page designer or copy editor caught an error before it went to press.


95 posted on 04/23/2007 5:11:33 PM PDT by jwparkerjr
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To: BagCamAddict
I’m sure you’re right. Like you said, 1000 feet is ALOT more than people realize. I just wish the media would be required to take some classes in the difference between specifics, generalities, estimates, ballpark figures, round numbers, accuracy, order of magnitude, etc.

"Zillion" may be quantitatively meaningless, but would seem applicable in some situations like this when something is so big its size is not known even within an order of magnitude.

96 posted on 04/23/2007 5:48:29 PM PDT by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: msnimje

Dang, you must be right, Global warming, that splains it all.


97 posted on 04/23/2007 6:04:28 PM PDT by stockpirate (Congress should MANDATE the right to carry concealed weapons in ALL schools.)
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To: BagCamAddict
Classic use of the word “and” to make something seem worse than it is. The narrator says “flames and smoke reached nearly 800 feet in the air.” That could mean flames were 100 feet in the air and smoke was another 700 feet above that. No way to tell how high those flames were, as there was nothing in the footage for scale.

Being a gas fire, there was essentially no visible smoke, just flame. I've seen various figures reported for the height of the Devil's Cigarette Lighter flames: 450 feet, 700 feet, 800 feet.

Red Adair, who put the fire out, reported flames of 700 feet in his film of the blowout. Red Adair's Film of Devil's Cigarette Lighter, Part 1 of 4.

In the film, the flames look quite high in pictures taken one mile or more from the well. However high it was, it was one monster blowout that reportedly melted sand a half mile from the well.

98 posted on 04/23/2007 9:25:15 PM PDT by rustbucket (E pur si muove)
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To: rustbucket

Thanks. Understood.

Just trying to point out that the use of the word “and” makes it impossible to tell what A or B really is. Like the pet food recall deaths... when reporters say 10,000 pets have been killed or made sick, it’s impossible to know whether the means 1 dead and 9,999 sick or the other way around.

When the oil well fires were burning in Iraq & Kuwait, I had a friend who was griping about “the Bush administration” awarding no-bid contracts to put out those fires. I had to tell him there are only about 4 companies in the WORLD who have the expertise and equipment and manpower to do that work.


99 posted on 04/23/2007 9:38:30 PM PDT by BagCamAddict
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To: SaveTheChief
It amazes me that there are people who want to believe in conspiracies rather than exercise their brains.

Also people are just flat out frustrated at the absence of terrorist attacks within the US in the last few years - don't get to nuke Mecca unless we get a lot of them.

100 posted on 04/24/2007 5:02:09 AM PDT by Strategerist
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