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Move to block emissions 'swindle' DVD [Global Warming]
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Posted on 04/25/2007 12:41:58 AM PDT by Omega Man II

Move to block emissions 'swindle' DVD

· Climate scientists say film misleads public · Wag TV producers reject 'contemptible gag attempt'

David Adam, environment correspondent

Wednesday April 25, 2007

The Guardian

Dozens of climate scientists are trying to block the DVD release of a controversial Channel 4 programme that claimed global warming is nothing to do with human greenhouse gas emissions.

Sir John Houghton, former head of the Met Office, and Bob May, former president of the Royal Society, are among 37 experts who have called for the DVD to be heavily edited or removed from sale. The film, the Great Global Warming Swindle, was first shown on March 8, and was criticised by scientists as distorted and misleading.

(Excerpt) Read more at environment.guardian.co.uk ...


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KEYWORDS: climatechange; globalwarming
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1 posted on 04/25/2007 12:42:02 AM PDT by Omega Man II
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2 posted on 04/25/2007 12:45:24 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Omega Man II
"Too many scientists have staked their reputations and built their careers on global warming. (Lots and lots of public tax dollars for "grants", "studies", and "commissions", too. - LH) There's a lot riding on this ridiculous theory. (= m-o-n-e-y) The DVD will be on sale shortly at a shop near you."

I am looking forward to it.

3 posted on 04/25/2007 12:51:28 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard
Great Global Warming Swindle

The "must see" video.

4 posted on 04/25/2007 12:56:40 AM PDT by RichRepublican (Good fences make good neighbors.)
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To: RichRepublican

It’s a shame that those who feel our climate change isn’t anthropogenic feel they must resort to Michael Moore-style lies to make their case. :-( But I guess this is the state of “documentary” in the 21st Century. :-(


5 posted on 04/25/2007 1:03:02 AM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: RichRepublican

Thanks for the link!


6 posted on 04/25/2007 1:03:38 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

It’s a great video, I learned a lot from it including the fact that this hoax is harming so many people all over the world. Even shortening lives.


7 posted on 04/25/2007 1:09:26 AM PDT by RichRepublican (Good fences make good neighbors.)
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To: Omega Man II
Anthropogenic global warming parasites and their dupes would tell you not to believe your lying eyes.

Don't trust main stream media. Their scare tactics have flip-flopped four times over the last eighty-some years.

 

 

The following graphs show that Earth is in a brief period of global warming called an interglacial. The longer time spans, the deep troughs are glacial periods. The line that runs across the graphs is the temperature in 1950 and listed as "0" on the left axis.

As can be seen in Figure 1-5, Earth appears ready to move toward another ice age in the cycle.

I'm more concerned with sustaining global warming to offset global cooling and the next ice age. 

Ice Ages & Astronomical Causes
Brief Introduction to the History of Climate
by Richard A. Muller

Origin of the 100 kyr Glacial Cycle

This first graph looks bad, doesn't it -- steeper upward temperature trend. Horizontal red line is temperature at 1950.

Figure 1-1 Global warming

The second graph shows today's temperature isn't out of the norm. Horizontal blue line is temperature at 1950.

Figure 1-2 Climate of the last 2400 years

The next graph shows a downtrend in temperatures from 8,000 years ago to today. The down trend is steeper in the recent 2,000 years. From left to right the upper spikes have lower highs while the lower spikes have lower lows. (The same effect can be seen in Figure 1-2, above.) 

Figure 1-3 Climate of the last 12,000 years

This graph shows that agriculture and  stationary societies emerged 8,000 years ago during a time frame when global temperature was much higher than normal, or average.

Figure 1-4 Climate of the last 100,000 years

The next graph shows that the recent 8,000 years was one of five brief hot spikes when glaciers were at minimums. With much longer troughs when glacials (ice ages) were the norm most of the time.

Figure 1-5 Climate for the last 420 kyr, from Vostok ice

The graph below is reversed. That is, the left side is present day and the right side is 3 million years ago. It shows a 3 million year down trend toward widening extremes in the temperature cycle.

Figure 1-6 Climate for the last 3 million years

The final graph shows CO2 lagging temperature change -- not leading it.

Figure 1-7 CO2 and temperature for the last 450 kyr

When man can cause meaningful global warming yesterday would be a good time to begin thwarting the next ice age.

Great documentary: The Great Global Warming Swindle at Google.
  The Great Global Warming Swindle at You Tube.

If the above links don't work use the respective search function at each Website. Type: The Great Global Warming Swindle.Anthropogenic global warming parasites and their dupes would tell you not to believe your lying eyes.

8 posted on 04/25/2007 1:14:58 AM PDT by Zon (Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
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Yet what isn't shown is the massive CO2 forcing that has occurred recently. It is way out of proportion to the past.


9 posted on 04/25/2007 1:43:01 AM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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And we have driven the CO2 concentration so high that it doesn't even fit on this graph of yours--it's off the scale!

And why is 1960-1990 chosen as the "baseline" in your graph when that is the period so heavily influenced by sulfur-based aerosols?

Why can't we have an unbiased examination of the data, rather than each side spinning things?!?

10 posted on 04/25/2007 1:46:19 AM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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Only place I can find that sells it on DVD:

http://www.wagtv.com/acatalog/store.asp


11 posted on 04/25/2007 1:48:52 AM PDT by D-fendr
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"We believe that the misrepresentation of facts and views, both of which occur in your programme, are so serious that repeat broadcasts of the programme, without amendment, are not in the public interest ... In fact, so serious and fundamental are the misrepresentations..."
But I'm guessin' they're cool with Algore's "Inconvenient Truth".
12 posted on 04/25/2007 1:50:54 AM PDT by D-fendr
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To: Omega Man II
Ah, the tolerance of the left. So refreshing.
13 posted on 04/25/2007 1:53:52 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: Gondring
I don't think the case for CO2 "forcing" has been conclusively made yet.

Setting a "baseline" doesn't seem to be much of an issue as long as a suitably long set of data are displayed to show the cycles. There is nothing that is "normal" in weather or climate.

14 posted on 04/25/2007 1:55:16 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Islam is the religion of violins, NOT peas.)
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To: Zon

Please, tell me those NY Slimes and Slime Ragazine quotes are REAL. :) I want to fine ‘em, their article and pages at my local library, LOOK ‘em up and PRINT THEM for my lib friends. :)


15 posted on 04/25/2007 1:56:23 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: Gondring
Temperature controls CO2 not the other way around. Besides those numbers are wrong there was more CO2 in the atmosphere in the 18th century.


16 posted on 04/25/2007 2:08:29 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* ?I love you guys?)
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To: Gondring
380 ppmv

Why don't you go back to about 65 million years ago? CO2 was much higher then and not one human to cause it, but I guess you don't want to talk about that right? Temperatures have been warmer in the past also, and we only have to go back about 1000 years for that. Don't let the truth hit you in the butt on the way out the door. Oh, yes, lets talk about water vapor which is a bigger cause of warming than CO2 ever could be, how about that? I know, you have another "chart" that shows BS and you think it proves something.

The fact is, climate change is not caused by man and Mars proves that. Climate change is natural and occurs constantly through out history and will keep on doing so.

In another 20 years when climate change hasn't occured to the point the screamers are predicting, the scare will swing back to global cooling because this is all about control and passing laws that will bring us under the yolk of globalization and allow higher taxes to be wrung from the citizens of the world, and allow oppressive laws that will shackle us like slaves.

More scientists, real ones not the fakes that are portrayed in this article, the ones trying to suppress free speech, but real scientists say that global warming is not man made and may not even exist at this point. The best that can be introduced is that temps have risen .5 of a degree F over the last 100 years.

If all the BS these so called scientists are saying about global warming is true, why are they afraid of a DVD showing the other side, why suppress free speech, they should welcome the debate, but like all liberals they don't and they reason they don't is becaue they are afraid of the truth, they can't stand a free debate and alternate view points, so they scream and cry and try to suppress other evidence that might be contrary to theirs. Happens all the time with liberals, either believe the way they do or be shouted down.

17 posted on 04/25/2007 2:09:39 AM PDT by calex59
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And why is 1960-1990 chosen as the "baseline" in your graph when that is the period so heavily influenced by sulfur-based aerosols?

The baseline on1y sets the horizonta1 1ine on the chart (ie, where the zero is for tempreture), it has no other effect. It does not bias the chart.

18 posted on 04/25/2007 2:24:08 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Ah, the tolerance of the left. So refreshing.

Well, it should be! After all they're taking time out of their busy, busy schedules to do this for our sakes--you know, the little people, the lumpenproletarat.

19 posted on 04/25/2007 2:31:47 AM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: Zon
The final graph shows CO2 lagging temperature change -- not leading it.

This link is not working.

Why would increasing temp cause increasing CO2 ?


BUMP

20 posted on 04/25/2007 2:39:30 AM PDT by capitalist229 (Get Democrats out of our pockets and Republicans out of our bedrooms.)
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