Posted on 04/25/2007 3:41:28 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
This is the start of a series of threads that will be used to expose the truth about Rudy Giuliani in his own words and deeds.
Please post all of the quotes, speeches, interview transcripts, video clips, photos, newspaper/magazine articles, reports, records, statistics, NYC budgets, NYC spending, political appointments, gun grabs, connections to the gun control lobby, lawsuits against gun manufacturers, the truth about crime reduction in NYC, private property grabs, asset forfeitures, abuses of office, individual rights trampling, constitution trampling, violations of public trust, violations of the rule of law, national security risks, failures in security preparedness prior to and after 911, corruption, graft, bribes, favors, union dealings, mob dealings, business dealings leveraged through government contracts and contacts, rainmaking for his business partners, connections to US, Middle East or South American oil and energy companies and law firms that have profited and or will profit from Giuliani's government offices especially if he becomes president, war profiteering, his personal and business finances, his train wreck of a private life and lack of character, lack of qualifications for high office, illegal alien sanctuaries, welfare for illegals, pandering to illegals/illegal alien lobby, support for the abortion and gay rights lobbies, NARAL connections and participation, past and current support for McCain-Feingold, connections and dealings with liberal officeholders or the liberal/socialist caucuses/lobbies, etc, etc, etc, that you can find.
We're primarily interested in the words from his own mouth or primary source records and reports of his deeds/misdeeds. All submissions must contain true facts with documentation and links to source documentation and a link to FR thread on the individual item if available.
We do not need to embellish the record. The ugly truth from his own liberal mouth will impeach his credibility and the reader will be able to disqualify the man from consideration for high office based solely on his own words and deeds.
Here's an example entry:
FOX News | Feb 6, 2007 | Hanity and Colmes
http://www.freerepublic.com/^http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,250497,00.html
HANNITY: Let me move on. And the issue of guns has come up a lot. When people talk about Mayor Giuliani, New York City had some of the toughest gun laws in the entire country. Do you support the right of people to carry handguns?
GIULIANI: I understand the Second Amendment. I support it. People have the right to bear arms. When I was mayor of New York, I took over at a very, very difficult time. We were averaging about 2,000 murders a year, 10,000...
HANNITY: You inherited those laws, the gun laws in New York?
GIULIANI: Yes, and I used them. I used them to help bring down homicide. We reduced homicide, I think, by 65-70 percent. And some of it was by taking guns out of the streets of New York City.
So if you're talking about a city like New York, a densely populated area like New York, I think it's appropriate. You might have different laws other places, and maybe a lot of this gets resolved based on different states, different communities making decisions. After all, we do have a federal system of government in which you have the ability to accomplish that.
HANNITY: So you would support the state's rights to choose on specific gun laws?
GIULIANI: Yes, I mean, a place like New York that is densely populated, or maybe a place that is experiencing a serious crime problem, like a few cities are now, kind of coming back, thank goodness not New York, but some other cities, maybe you have one solution there and in another place, more rural, more suburban, other issues, you have a different set of rules.
HANNITY: But generally speaking, do you think it's acceptable if citizens have the right to carry a handgun?
GIULIANI: It's not only -- I mean, it's part of the Constitution. People have the right to bear arms. Then the restrictions of it have to be reasonable and sensible. You can't just remove that right. You've got to regulate, consistent with the Second Amendment.
HANNITY: How do you feel about the Brady bill and assault ban?
GIULIANI: I was in favor of that as part of the crime bill. I was in favor of it because I thought that it was necessary both to get the crime bill passed and also necessary with the 2,000 murders or so that we were looking at, 1,800, 1,900, to 2,000 murders, that I could use that in a tactical way to reduce crime. And I did.
Free Republic thread:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1780940/posts
TommyDale; Arguing with Silly is well, silly.
Silly; Actually, I think it is the other way around:
Conservatives are conservatives because of Jesus.
We Conservatives have great respect for our Constitution, and the founders of this great country.
The reason for much of its greatness is due to the fact that the founders were Christians, and the Constitution was written from that perspective.
We conservatives will continue to promote conservatives to public office and expose liberals in the hopes that none of them are elected because that is what we do.
God also gave us laws to live by, you know morals, something that the liberals in charge of big cities totally disregard.
Well, I think an awful lot of liberals would disagree with you about their disregard for the law. But the fact is, liberals and conservatives both have a contempt for the law. The problem is, each side can only see the other’s sin, and not his own.
And speaking of laws, the Gospel is not “a set of laws” we live by. That is religion. The Gospel says, God died for our lawbreaking as an act of love. His forgiveness and love are so real and powerful (not theoretical or mental constructs) that our lives change in response to that love. And when our hearts change, our actions change, and become in step with the law — the ultimate law, the law of love.
Nuff said.........ROTFLMBO.
When I saw this article on FR awhile back I wished I could help Jim Riches in his efforts to Swiftboat Rudy. It seems we are working towards the same end. If anyone in NYC could get a hold of Jim Riches maybe he has some information from the firemen that he could share with us and maybe we could possibly work together with them.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1822992/posts
That is silly. Jesus would look at the pregnant woman and say “Go and sin no more.” Killing an innocent life is sinning, so I’m pretty sure he’d tell her not to. And why does “taxpayer expense” come into it? What about individual responsibility for your actions? He was pretty big on that too. (You know, every one of us will give an account for ourselves and all that.)
Thank you for your penetrating political analysis. Stay in school!
Unless they are Jewish.
“The adults are talking, kid. Go clean your room.
How very Christian of you.
Oh the hypocrisy.
Really. In what manner. I'd like to hear more about that.
The Giuliani administration's disgraceful abuse of asset forfeiture laws -- which were used to seize the vehicles of motorists accused of drunk driving (even those that were found not guilty in court) -- disqualifies this moron from ever holding government office in a free nation.
I'll post a lengthy rant on this specific issue -- with as much detail as I can get my hands on -- sometime over the next week or so.
“I do believe there’s global warming, yes. ...The big question has always been how much of it is happening because of natural climate changes and
how much of it is happening because of human intervention. ... The overwhelming number of scientists now believe that there is significant human cause.’’
The debate on the existence of global warming is “is almost unnecessary...because we should be dealing with pollution anyway.”
—Rudolph Giuliani, San Francisco Chronicle, February 12, 2007
I did. I think you’re taking something very simple and trying to make it complex. I did a research paper many moons ago when I was in college about gun control and it’s effects on society. There are numerous studies out there to support the fact that an armed society is a less crime ridden society. I wish I could remember details... there was a town - in FL I think - that had a rising crime problem - especially against women. They ran a very publicized campaign to arm it’s citizens - especially women - and the crime rates dropped dramatically. Now, if it works in ONE town, why would you think it wouldn’t work in the larger ones? It makes no sense to me for you to choose to disbelieve - it’s a logical extension of previous experiences.
A proven fact, pure and simple.
If anyone has any doubts, read the works of John Lott.
N-i-c-e work. Your contributions to FR are greatly appreciated.
He would do much more than that. He would also admonish his church to provide for all her needs, until they were completely met.
Hey, what about your individual responsibility for your own sins? If you're so big on individual reponsibility, why are you relying on God's grace and Jesus' sacrifice to make up for your failings? You couldn't take personal responsibility for your sin even if you tried. Not even 1% of it.
See my point? Liberalism says, "We're not responsible, we're just born that way." Conservatism says, "We are responsible, now just watch us while we take personal responsibility -- and admonish others to do the same, loudly."
The Gospel says, "I am responsible for my own sin, but can do nothing on my own. I need God's love and grace to forgive my debts."
LOL!!! ZING!
Actually - I think it should be “because of the Judeo-Christian moral code.” That’s actually more true.
There IS global warming. I was listening to Hugh Hewitt last week and he had a guy on who has written a book to counter Al Gore vis a vis global warming. And he said what Rudy said. The earth is warmer by a tiny (teeny-tiny) bit - BUT the question IS "how much of it is happening because of natural climate changes and how much of it is happening because of human intervention." You are trying to make it sound like Rudy buys in to the Gore version of global warming, which he does not.
Have I told you lately that your intellectual vacuity is s-o-o-o-o attractive?
I’m all for fighting it out in the primaries, but then I always support the Republican nominee, whoever it is, and I always vote.
“Third party,” “Write-in,” “Stay home” and “Leave blank” are the spoil sports who take the ball and go home.
The Third Party Perot vote gave the Presidency to Clinton in 1992, but I’m sure all those who voted for Perot were proud of themselves — they were able to get rid of GHW Bush.
Don’t pick up the bait. ;)
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