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| April 22, 2006
| Debra M. Ferguson
Posted on 05/03/2007 3:17:03 AM PDT by 8mmMauser
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To: 8mmMauser
Altenburn of the 2nd dca’s boy scout troop has an annual Stamp Out Hunger driver. That’s his name. By the way, Terri was in today’s St. Pete Times re: Giuliani’s flip flop. He was for Terri when he visited here but was for the courts by the time he ended up in the Reagan Library. I guess the Pinellas gobsters had a little talk w/Rudi and set him straight that Terri was to be denied all her rights. He obeyed them. Pinellas County is gop central but not conservative central.
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posted on
05/05/2007 4:27:27 PM PDT
by
floriduh voter
(Terri's Legacy List Contact: 8mmmauser & REMEMBER TERRI IN CAMPAIGN 2008)
To: bjs1779
Friar J.’s a really nice guy.
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posted on
05/05/2007 4:36:05 PM PDT
by
floriduh voter
(Terri's Legacy List Contact: 8mmmauser & REMEMBER TERRI IN CAMPAIGN 2008)
To: bjs1779
Did you hear about the 29 year old guy who was in a survival course and they wouldn't give him any water? The owner of the survival biz has a show on the discovery channel. (temporarily, that is imo). The guides had water on them and they refused when the dead guy asked for water. However, as you know, by that time, it would have probably been too late anyway. The guy should have been coptered out of there - he was way past one cup of water reviving him. They need to start with iv drip first. A nice cop in 2003 explained that to me. There were no nice cops in 2005 at hostage woodside.
This guy's mom was in hospice dying and they wouldn't even let him pass the police line because THEY WERE ARRESTING THE CHILDREN AT THE TIME. The guy wasn't mad at us, he was mad at the cops. So were the tv people who were not allowed to pass the police line.
Terri was nightmare 1. Katrina was nightmare 2 - same stuff, different day.
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posted on
05/05/2007 4:43:13 PM PDT
by
floriduh voter
(Terri's Legacy List Contact: 8mmmauser & REMEMBER TERRI IN CAMPAIGN 2008)
To: T'wit
Yeah David Gibbs. Easy to forget.
Anyway, there's some news here:
http://terrisfight.org/
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posted on
05/05/2007 4:50:09 PM PDT
by
floriduh voter
(Terri's Legacy List Contact: 8mmmauser & REMEMBER TERRI IN CAMPAIGN 2008)
To: floriduh voter
I could tell just by reading his article that he is.
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posted on
05/05/2007 5:54:45 PM PDT
by
bjs1779
To: floriduh voter
Yeah David Gibbs. Easy to forget. : )
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posted on
05/05/2007 5:56:37 PM PDT
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bjs1779
To: floriduh voter
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posted on
05/05/2007 6:51:43 PM PDT
by
bjs1779
To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
Emilio Gonzales, and Andrea Clark, and the Texas Futile Care law, and the bishops.... by Wesley J. Smith.
What if hospitals could put a sign over their doors stating, We reserve the right to refuse life-sustaining care? People would be outraged. Yet that is precisely what Texas law explicitly grants to hospitals namely, to say no to wanted life-sustaining treatment, on the basis of subjective judgments about the quality of the patients life.
It is an example of a bioethical concept known as Futile Care Theory, a.k.a. medical futility.
Why Does the Texas Catholic Conference Support the Futile Care Law?
8mm
How did Texas, of all places, become ground zero for futile-care impositions?
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posted on
05/06/2007 3:29:28 AM PDT
by
8mmMauser
(Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
To: All
Emilio and opinion from Salt Lake...
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Emilio Gonzales is a 17-month-old boy in Austin, Texas, suffering from Leigh's disease, a rare, incurable, degenerate disorder. The genetic disease has left the child, who is kept alive by a ventilator, unable to see, speak or eat.
Doctors at Austin Children's Hospital believe that the toddler is experiencing immense pain, and they contend that keeping him alive is cruel because there is no cure for his condition.
A Texas law gives hospitals the right to end life support if doctors feel further treatment is futile. The doctors are attempting to exercise their right and stop treatment.
The child's mother, Catarina Gonzales, is fighting the hospital's decision.
Gonzales wants her son kept alive on the ventilator. She wants him to die "naturally, the way God intended."
This case and many others like it leave people of faith sharply divided.
There are those who are outraged by the law that gives the hospital the right to make life-and-death decisions even in the face of family disagreement. But some medical ethicists defend the law, suggesting that family members do not have the medical expertise and are often too emotional to make a decision in the best interest of the patient.
Emilio's mother is facing harsh criticism for fighting to keep her child alive despite his suffering. Critics point out that if her intent is to allow her child to die naturally, then she should not be opposed to the hospital's decision to end life support and let her son die.
The Bible's stance is, "Thou shall not kill," which is better understood to mean, "Thou shall not murder."
Hodges: Is ending life support for ailing boy akin to murder?
8mm
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posted on
05/06/2007 3:39:17 AM PDT
by
8mmMauser
(Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
To: All; floriduh voter
A deeper look again into the Rudy short stack flipped by our waffle king...
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In the GOP debate Thursday night, candidate Ruddy Giuliani suggested the Schiavo controversy should have been left to the courts. But when Giuliani visited home county of Terri Schiavo last month, he said he supported the controversial effort by Congress to intervene to keep the severely brain-damaged woman on life support, according to a report in the St. Petersburg Times.
~Snip~
In April, however, he noted that the controversy had been through the court system for years, adding that the 2005 congressional intervention, "was appropriate to make every effort to give her a chance to stay alive. ... My general view is, you should do everything you can to keep somebody alive unless they have expressed a strong interest in not having very, very special things done, extraordinary things done."
Story Continues Below
A day after the debate, Giuliani's campaign spokesman, Elliott Bundy attempted to clarify his bosses position on Schiavo:
~Snip~
"Anybody hurts themselves by being inconsistent on this particular subject," remarked state Rep. Dennis Baxley, an Ocala Republican who led the state legislative efforts to keep Schiavo alive in 2005. "In retrospect, it's not popular to be associated with it, but when you're in the middle of it, you don't deal with whether it's popular, you have to deal with whether it's right."
"Mr. Giuliani needs to figure out what he really believes about these important issues of privacy and the rule of law, " said Derek Newton, a spokesman for Terripac, the political committee started by Terri Schiavo's husband. "But if he believes what he said last - that this issue is a legal one and not a political one - he is squarely in tune with most Americans, and we applaud him."
Giuliani Flips on Schiavo Case
8mm
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posted on
05/06/2007 3:51:27 AM PDT
by
8mmMauser
(Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
To: All; Sun
More on Hunter and Terri...
If any of the Republican presidential candidates, who participated in the debate sponsored by MSNBC and Politico.com, at the Reagan Library, illustrated that he, indeed, has inherited the mantle of Ronald Reagan, it was Congressman Duncan Hunter.
~Snip~
Unlike McCain, Hunter did not pander about his faith and try to walk a fine line between secular and religious. He was definitive about his belief as to what was the correct course in the Schiavo case.
~Snip~
Fox News said, An honorable mention goes to Congressman Duncan Hunter (R-Calif.) who outdistanced his western state rival for the anti-immigration vote, Congressman Tom Tancredo (R-Colo.). Hunter was more attractive and handled the immigration issue better than Tancredo. He helped himself move to the front rank of the second tier of candidates.
The media is starting notice Hunter. The rest of the electorate will as well.
If Duncan Hunter can get the financial resources needed to continue his campaign he will definitely be the Reaganesque candidate the Republican Party and the country needs.
The GOP Debate
8mm
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posted on
05/06/2007 3:57:57 AM PDT
by
8mmMauser
(Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
To: All; T'wit
The "big" three hew a different direction from the Gipper and like minded Republicans...
Romney, McCain and Giuliani all strayed from GOP support for interceding in the widely publicized case of Terri Schiavo, a brain-damaged Florida woman. And Giuliani went so far as to endorse a woman's right to make a decision on whether to have an abortion.
These three GOP candidates are certainly blazing new trails, but it's unlikely that they're ones that would please the Gipper.
They are pioneering a different brand of Republicanism
8mm
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posted on
05/06/2007 4:04:23 AM PDT
by
8mmMauser
(Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
To: All
And Bloomberg crafts a definition of Republican, outside of my imagination...
Yesterday, on his radio show, Bloomberg continued to burnish his image as a no-nonsense, nonpartisan leader who knows how to solve problems that affect real people.
"What you see here is that Washington is so paralyzed because of partisanship they don't focus on the real-world problems that mayors have to face," he said. "They spend their time discussing flag burning and, you know, Terri Schiavo, a terrible case, and they wring their hands and rush to do press conferences after Virginia Tech."
"But there are 30-odd people murdered every day in this country by guns, and nobody wants to focus on that," he said. "But mayors do."
3rd party? No way! - Mike
8mm
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posted on
05/06/2007 4:09:53 AM PDT
by
8mmMauser
(Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
To: All; wagglebee
Wagglebee thread on a proposal: It's all about Mee han...
Yet, according to statements National Right to Life and the Family Research Council sent LifeNews.com, the reality is that the Meehan Amendment would force countless individual Americans and groups to register and report as lobbying firms."
That's a requirement if they influence fellow citizens to contact Congress or officials of the executive branch on policy matters.
Pro-Life Groups: Meehan Amendment Unfairly Targets Free Speech Rights
8mm
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posted on
05/06/2007 4:14:59 AM PDT
by
8mmMauser
(Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
To: 8mmMauser
“I’m hearing more and more from people where doctors are consulting with families and, in many cases, are deciding it would be best to take steps to end a life,” he said.
This is exactly what my nephews doctors tried to do. They even showed Terris video to them to persuade them to pull all his life support. After a massive brain injury due to car accident, induced coma and drugs that kept him in a pvs state for 2 yrs, his family stopped all medication, He is now able to stand leg press 140 lbs, dress himself and do many daily tasks. The doctors are not always right and many have an eerie need to press the right to die agenda forward. I Thank God everyday as I hear my nephew’s voice over the phone, knowing he is able to watch his children grow and his improvements come with time and patience, understanding and prayer.
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posted on
05/06/2007 4:18:06 AM PDT
by
glymers
To: All; wagglebee
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posted on
05/06/2007 4:21:30 AM PDT
by
8mmMauser
(Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
To: glymers
I am thankful your nephew got through that harrowing and dangerous time with the doctors and am glad you are mentioning it. These incidents happen too often and are not exposed frequently enough to the light of day. Sometimes it is more blatant like in my post #24 on Scott Thomas, and sometimes it is more subtle as in a case of a friend we lost months ago. For twenty six years, doctors continuously tried to persuade us to let our son die, and we resisted. Not many those days even believed us.
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posted on
05/06/2007 4:34:33 AM PDT
by
8mmMauser
(Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
To: 8mmMauser
Hunter is getting the right press in the right places. If we want “a choice, not an echo,” to remember Phyllis Schlafly’s phrase, Hunter has to be a prime contender, even if he is not very well known yet.
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posted on
05/06/2007 4:43:51 AM PDT
by
T'wit
(Confidence in science rests on belief in God's order and will not long survive loss of this belief.)
To: glymers
What a frightening story! But yet it offers a hopeful view that patience and fortitude can triumph. God bless your nephew and all who had the courage to help him along.
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posted on
05/06/2007 4:49:10 AM PDT
by
T'wit
(Confidence in science rests on belief in God's order and will not long survive loss of this belief.)
To: 8mmMauser
>>
GOP's Big Three - They are pioneering a different brand of Republicanism Which, dear fools, is just what Republicans object to.
Don't you just love it when liberals tell us what Republicanism should be? It turns out to be just like Democrats. And it always starts with Republicans changing their view -- as if we had no principles. It is Democrats who have no core values. They aren't even conscious that they are projecting their silly-putty view on Republicans.
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posted on
05/06/2007 4:55:23 AM PDT
by
T'wit
(Confidence in science rests on belief in God's order and will not long survive loss of this belief.)
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