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Find out the TRUTH about Terris Fight for life
Amazon.com:Review ^ | April 22, 2006 | Debra M. Ferguson

Posted on 05/03/2007 3:17:03 AM PDT by 8mmMauser

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To: 8mmMauser

LOL


361 posted on 05/15/2007 2:03:28 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
The plight of Emilio Gonzales and the closely interrelated proposed changes in the Texas Futile Care laws are still out front.

Meanwhile we have a bevy of medical experts baffling us and themselves with bs about burdens on medical staff, costs, and victimization of the medical community by unreasoned life-at-all-cost extremists. Their medical jargon dwells on technicalities which glaze our own eyes mask the true issue. Selfsame experts bring the plight of Terri into the mix, openly considering Terri's life to be futile. It would be feckless indeed to say medical care for Terri was futile. Rather, it was helpful, but denied.

Likewise, the subtle switch of meanings is in operation over the Texas Futile Care law as one and same experts describe the lives, not the care as futile. Hence it is easy passage to justify pulling the plug and simultaneously declare the medical community a victim, especially its ethics core.

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Austin, TX (LifeNews.com) -- The Texas state Senate has approved a bill that would revise a law that allows families just 10 days to find care for a loved one when a medical facility refuses to provide continued lifesaving medical treatment. Under the measure, families would get a minimum of 21 days to locate a medical facility that will care for the patient.

Current state law allows medical facilities to determine that a patient is too far gone to receive further care and they can tell families that they will stop lifesaving medical treatment in 10 days.

Pro-life groups and disability rights advocates have fought the law saying it promotes euthanasia and puts families in a difficult position.

Although lawmakers are keen on improving the law, pro-life groups and legislators were split on two bills -- one upping the 10 day window and another providing an indefinite period of time to placed a loved one somewhere else.

~Snip~

Those provisions will ensure that patients similar to Terri Schiavo who are marked "futile" by hospital ethics committees can continue to receive food and water while the family searchers for another medical facility.

Texas Senate Approves Bill Reforming Futile Care Law to Help Patients

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362 posted on 05/16/2007 3:49:22 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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In this pathetic attempt at proposing a debate, critter Michael Moore evokes Terri's Legacy as part of one of his fantasy talking points. I declined to post his picture or pictures of road kill or any similar pics in such a nice forum as our own.

(4) Your relationship with the First family and by extension HCA, one of the nation's largest for-profit hospital chains. It has been reported that former Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (who was renowned for his over-the-television-screen Schiavo diagnosis) is serving as one of your confidantes on your potential presidential campaign. The Frist family has historically controlled HCA, which paid a record $1.7 billion in civil and criminal fines, including a $631 million penalty for Medicaid fraud -- in other words, ripping off the taxpayers.

Michael Moore Publicity Stunt: Challenges Fred Thompson to Debate

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363 posted on 05/16/2007 4:03:27 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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Rev. Jerry Falwell, R.I.P.

WASHINGTON - Admire him or revile him, the Rev. Jerry Falwell's role in American history will reverberate long past his death Tuesday at the age of 73.

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Their power within the party - and the divisions it brought - came into sharp relief in 2005 with the Terri Schiavo saga, when Congress and President Bush responded to pressure from Christian conservatives with extraordinary legislation designed to save the life of a woman who doctors said had been in a persistent vegetative state for 15 years. Many moderate Republicans were troubled by the intervention.

Rev. Jerry Falwell dies at age 73

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364 posted on 05/16/2007 4:09:29 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All
Moonbat leftists continue to define themselves in what they thought of the killing of an innocent, Terri. Actually the author describes himself as a cockeyed optimist. Here is more of the same, once again, Terri's Legacy takes part in defining the left.

Two years ago, people weren't quite ready to admit it. Americans needed this second term to catch on. And what a term it's been. The roll call of shame is lengthy indeed: Terry Schiavo, Iraq, attempting to privatize Social Security, Iraq, Katrina, Iraq, FEMA, Iraq, Harriet Myers, Iraq, Guantanamo, unwarranted surveillance of citizens, extraordinary rendition, torture, redefining the Geneva Conventions, the U.S. attorney firings, Iraq, Alberto Gonzales, the Walter Reed V.A. scandal, Scooter Libby, duck hunting with Dick, Iraq, "outing" a CIA agent in retribution for uttering an inconvenient truth, the list goes on and on. We needed all of it in order to recognize the full extent of our electoral screw-up in 2004.

What lessons will we learn from George the Terrible?

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365 posted on 05/16/2007 4:14:49 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee
Wagglebee thread on what the Pope said...

The Pope said that the family "is currently suffering a degree of adversity caused by secularism and by ethical relativism, by movements of population internally and externally, by poverty, by social instability and by civil legislation opposed to marriage which, by supporting contraception and abortion, is threatening the future of peoples."

Pope: Legislation "Supporting Contraception and Abortion is Threatening the Future of Peoples"

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366 posted on 05/16/2007 4:18:04 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee
Wagglebee thread on a topic posted in the Dakota Voice on Rudy Tuesday...

Of all people, Rudy should realize leaders must be straight talkers. They cannot send what we preachers call, "an uncertain sound." The American people respect confident leaders who say what they mean and mean what they say. We crave public officials who call a spade a spade. We want you to take a stand one way or the other. I may disagree with you, but I will respect you for standing your ground.

Sadly, Rudy's "I do but I don't," and "I will but I won't" palaver about abortion undermines the image of the strong, take action leader New York and the country needed after 9/11. But it also shows his Achilles' heel that some had hoped to wish away. It's his moral constitution. Rudy has made a series of disastrous moral choices in his personal life that will haunt him throughout his campaign. That weakness unfortunately compromises his capacity to speak with authority on moral issues, especially abortion.

Why Giuliani Will Not Be a Nominee

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367 posted on 05/16/2007 4:23:57 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; Dubya; Brad's Gramma
Missing soldiers ping and prayers for their safety. God bless and protect these men...

The Department of Defense announced today the identities of four soldiers listed as Duty Status Whereabouts Unknown (DUSTWUN) while supporting Operation Iraqi Freedom.They have been unaccounted for since May 12 in Al Taqa, Iraq, when their patrol was attacked by enemy forces using automatic fire and explosives.They are assigned to the 4th Battalion, 31st Infantry Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 10th Mountain Division, Fort Drum, N.Y.

DoD Announces Army Soldiers as Whereabouts Unknown[PRAY EVERONE]

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368 posted on 05/16/2007 4:31:32 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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Sun, what is your take on last night debates? Sounds like Duncan Hunter didn’t get much chance to talk.


369 posted on 05/16/2007 4:48:59 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: Dante3
>> For a while they were really in a frenzy trying to disrupt the thread.

Indeed. But one thing they never doped is that they served as the foil for us to get the truth out. Other than Greer court rulings, they had no arrows in their quiver. Shh!! Don't say this out loud, but they are easy targets.

There is only one way to make a point, at least to normal readers. You do it the old-fashioned way by making a reasoned case based on facts and moral principles. The side that gets ugly loses. Trolls are experts at being the Bad Examples. All they really accomplish is identifying themselves to other trolls. I suppose it's a mating ritual. They are like the liberal nasal-tones of "All Things Considered" or the croaking chorus in The Frogs (Aristophanes): Brekekekex ko-ax ko-ax!

370 posted on 05/16/2007 6:44:58 AM PDT by T'wit (Nicolas Sarkozy: my Democrat candidate for US president. He's more patriotic than any of them.)
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To: 8mmMauser
>> ... call a spade a spade.

I took my cat to the animal hospital to get it "fixed," but the vet said...

371 posted on 05/16/2007 6:48:58 AM PDT by T'wit (Nicolas Sarkozy: my Democrat candidate for US president. He's more patriotic than any of them.)
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Also, I noticed that several of them are no longer members although they might surface under different names.


372 posted on 05/16/2007 7:13:06 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: Dante3
>> although they might surface under different names.

Bring 'em on! :-)

Freepers have good noses for sniffing them out when they return. Trolls don't change their ways. They may try for a day or two but they lapse into their old "signature" the first moment they lose their cool. That makes it more fun to use them for target practice :-)

373 posted on 05/16/2007 7:56:37 AM PDT by T'wit (Nicolas Sarkozy: my Democrat candidate for US president. He's more patriotic than any of them.)
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To: 8mmMauser

Never did think Giuliani would be The Man. Fred Thompson’s cigar-chomping retort to Michael “the slob” Moore is flying around through e-mail and on the Net. Those few words are doing for him what “the speech” did for Reagan after 1964. It is impacting because, at last, it’s the gutsy, leadership voice that conservatives have been longing to hear.


374 posted on 05/16/2007 8:04:43 AM PDT by T'wit (Nicolas Sarkozy: my Democrat candidate for US president. He's more patriotic than any of them.)
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To: 8mmMauser

Call me crazy, but having tried to help find alternative care
in some of these matters, I think an additional 11 days
will do very little to resolve the problem for vulnerable
families - a bandaid, not a tourniquet.


375 posted on 05/16/2007 9:28:05 AM PDT by Lesforlife ("For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb . . ." Psalm 139:13!!!!!)
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To: 8mmMauser
Michael Moore evokes Terri's Legacy as part of one of his fantasy talking points. ...

(4) Your relationship with the First family and by extension HCA, one of the nation's largest for-profit hospital chains. It has been reported that former Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (who was renowned for his over-the-television-screen Schiavo diagnosis) is serving as one of your confidantes on your potential presidential campaign.

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What is "Terri's legacy", please? And how does this passing reference to Frist's "TV diagnosis" fit in with this "legacy"?

Thanks in advance for the info!

376 posted on 05/16/2007 6:05:28 PM PDT by citiwo
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To: 8mmMauser

“Sun, what is your take on last night debates? Sounds like Duncan Hunter didn’t get much chance to talk.”

I’m wondering if RINOs were running the debate (or naysayers), but what Hunter did say was excellent, and many said that he was presidential.

Laura Ingraham had Kathy Parker? as her guest today, who covered the debate.

Parker said Hunter was very manly, like John Wayne.

Ingraham said Hunter looks like he will kick butt. Laura said many people are saying that Hunter should be VP, but Laura said, he should be “P.”


377 posted on 05/16/2007 8:07:39 PM PDT by Sun (Vote for Duncan Hunter in the primaries. See you there.)
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To: citiwo
Before I say “you’re welcome” in advance, I am curious about your curiosity and wonder if you can clarify a mystery.

You are brand new here on FreeRepublic, according to your date of arrival a few days ago. You have one, only one post, this post first ever on FreeRepublic.

With all the other, the wonderful and interesting topics to attract a newcomer, you chose us in Terri Dailies and our topic as this first post.

Your question is not at all in the pattern of a newbie wanting to find out what we may offer about Terri’s Legacy, but it does sound familiar for past visitors, who have departed. It echoes a technique we have seen before, bait to draw one of us into a trap.

Your ability to formulate the answer in HTML format the very first post is amazing for a newbie even one who has plenty of background.

All in all it makes you stand out like a duck in a doghouse. So I just gotta ask before we go further. Are you a troll, a retread, or legit? If not a troll or retread, please explain the above. If sincere and legit, after I am over the shock, I will be glad to fill you with the best information available on Terri’s Legacy.

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378 posted on 05/16/2007 8:19:17 PM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: Sun

Thanks, he really sounds like a fine candidate, but wise elders of the GOP are somehow trying to ignore him as they flirt with the three kings, or two kings and a queen, or a jack, or whatever.

I hope he springs out of the restraints.


379 posted on 05/16/2007 8:29:09 PM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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I’m looking for someone tougher and more conservative than President Bush, but I guess the Republican Party, and even many “conservative” pundits are actually RINOs.

But I’m listening to a Laura Ingraham rerun now, and callers are telling her they like Hunter, and I’m not hearing the names of the front runners.

btw, Much of Romneys money was raised through the Mormon church.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18178560/

That might change things for at least this particular candidate, not that it’s wrong for any religion to raised $$ for their candidate, but you need a wide range of all kinds of voters to win.


380 posted on 05/16/2007 9:17:56 PM PDT by Sun (Vote for Duncan Hunter in the primaries. See you there.)
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