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Poll: Giuliani, McCain lead the pack [Giuliani's numbers plunge]
CNN ^ | May 07, 2007 | None Attributed

Posted on 05/07/2007 6:57:12 PM PDT by gpapa

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To: Mr. Silverback

With Giuliani’s dismal record on the Constitution, I would hate to see him anywhere near AG or FBI Director. However, I love the thought of him as UN Ambassador (as long as he remembered that the president was boss). I hadn’t thought of that, but that would be a great job for him.


61 posted on 05/07/2007 11:34:32 PM PDT by ellery (I don't remember a constitutional amendment that gives you the right not to be identified-R.Giuliani)
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To: TAdams8591
And is unlikely to.

That's my take on Fred too, saw him on tv the other day and he just didn't have the 'fire in the belly' a candidate needs to motivate him thru this. My guess is that he will probably become another candidate's running mate as VP.

62 posted on 05/08/2007 6:13:34 AM PDT by yuta250
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To: George W. Bush
Only if you believe libmedia is doing us a favor in accurately reporting these polls.

I'm not just basing it on polling...I think MSM polling means nothing. He isn't doing anything. No effective fundraising, no serious campaign appearances...and if the MSM is lying, let's say his numbers are five times what theyre saying he's got. That wouldn't even beat Thompson, and he's not even in yet!

Conservatives will not support a guy who won't show he can beat Hillary, no matter what his ideology is. He needs to find first gear ASAP.

63 posted on 05/08/2007 10:14:51 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (A pacifist sees no distinction between the arsonist and the fireman--Freeper ccmay)
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To: Mr. Silverback
I'm not just basing it on polling...I think MSM polling means nothing. He isn't doing anything. No effective fundraising, no serious campaign appearances...and if the MSM is lying, let's say his numbers are five times what theyre saying he's got. That wouldn't even beat Thompson, and he's not even in yet!

I don't compare Fred to anyone except the other prosecutors-turned-actor-turned-senator-turned-actor-turned-commentator who are running for president.

Thompson's just unique as a candidate. I think he'll run a unique kind of campaign too.

Conservatives will not support a guy who won't show he can beat Hillary, no matter what his ideology is. He needs to find first gear ASAP.

A field of ten really hurts the Seven Dwarves. If only we could reduce it to two, say Ron Paul and Hunter. Both are very long shots no matter how you slice it but they are just as much issues candidates as they are presidential candidates. Hunter on borders and China and WOT, Paul on all the hard-right ideology issues (outside WOT).

We may be very fond of some others in the race but I also don't see how Tommy Thompson goes anywhere (good resume, no charisma). Gilmore, about the same, not quite as much resume. Huckabee, a little quirky but funny, not that conservative as a governor. Brownback, hmmm...dunno why he's running, angling for VP maybe or just to start a big PAC (Dole/ADM puppet?).

We do need to start thinking about how to avoid letting Giuliani get past us. And McStain. We've just got too many other candidates in the race for them to win. And we risk letting the two we hate the most slip past us.
64 posted on 05/08/2007 10:51:01 AM PDT by George W. Bush (Election Math For Dummies: GOP รท Rudi = Hillary)
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To: George W. Bush
We do need to start thinking about how to avoid letting Giuliani get past us. And McStain. We've just got too many other candidates in the race for them to win. And we risk letting the two we hate the most slip past us.

Yeah, unfortunately, the highest priority at this point has to be negative.

If one of the top three is going to be the nominee, it has to be Romney...but I'm praying we don't have to make that choice.

65 posted on 05/08/2007 11:07:36 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (A pacifist sees no distinction between the arsonist and the fireman--Freeper ccmay)
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To: publana; Jim Robinson
Agreed. I’ve unavoidably been away for a while and am apalled at the tone of some of these threads. The libs aren’t going to have to rip us apart. We’re doing it to ourselves.

Oh spare me the hand wringing, ok? The only thing going on lately here at FR is that JimRob and the REAL conservatives on this site said 'enough is enough' and the liberal-Rudyloving RINOs were told what time it is, and a large number of them took it upon themselves to either push JimRob to the limit in order to be zotted, or they posted their wah-wah opus and slinked off into the night to their fellow RINOs at WideAflakes.Net.

I am supporting Fred, but these horrible anti-Rudy threads turn my stomach. The man is deserving of respect if not our votes.

You may think that someone who praises a eugenicist promoter of infanticide is deserving of respect, and you may think that someone who thinks that murdering an unborn child isn't as serious as murdering a child already born is deserving of respect, and you might even think that someone whose failure to enforce immigrations laws in his city enabled some of the 9/11 hijackers to operate with impunity right in the heart of Brooklyn is deserving of respect, but guess what?

No real conservative does.

Can’t we have discourse and debate without dissolving into juvenile and nasty attacks?

"Politics ain't beanbag"
- Peter Finley Dunne

"If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen"
- President Harry S Truman

Happy to help.
66 posted on 05/08/2007 12:39:44 PM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: yuta250

Maybe he will be a VP nominee. NO fire in the belly is right! : )


67 posted on 05/08/2007 3:22:26 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Mitt Romney for President '08)
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To: gpapa

The two worst possible choices for the GOP IMO. Wonderful. Not.


68 posted on 05/08/2007 7:24:04 PM PDT by TigersEye (For Democrats; victory in Iraq is not an option.)
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To: Jim Robinson
You sure as hell will not receive any sympathy here, RINO lover.

Nice.

Sir, you know nothing about me or whom I support. I fear the prospect of President Hillary Clinton, and that's exactly what we're looking at unless we wise up.

For the 110th time, I'm not in favor of Giuliani. Why I have to defend myself, I don't know. I guess I don't pass your purity test, Jim.

69 posted on 05/08/2007 7:38:12 PM PDT by gonewt
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To: publana
Can’t we have discourse and debate without dissolving into juvenile and nasty attacks?

Clearly not! I have to double-check half the time that these are conservatives we're debating, and not Sheehan-style liberals.

70 posted on 05/08/2007 7:40:36 PM PDT by gonewt
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To: NeoCaveman
Mitt is now leading in New Hampshire. If he can hold NH and move up in Iowa. He’ll be the front runner, regardless of what national polls say.

Iowa is the key for Romney. Winning New Hampshire will no more make Romney the Republican frontrunner than Paul Tsongas' win in 1992 made him the Democrat frontrunner. Any Republican who runs close to Romney in New Hampshire will be the story like Clinton was in 1992 by finishing a close second to the regional favorite son.

71 posted on 05/08/2007 7:52:20 PM PDT by CommerceComet
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To: CommerceComet

I still marvel at how Clinton spun his New Hampshire loss into a great “comeback”. That spin machine was/is a good one.


72 posted on 05/08/2007 7:57:32 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (the Democrat(ic) caucus of corruption)
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To: NeoCaveman
I still marvel at how Clinton spun his New Hampshire loss into a great “comeback”.

Be that as it may, it still proves my point that a Massachusetts politician winning the New Hampshire primary is not a big deal nationally. If Romney doesn't win handily, it will be seen as a loss even if he were to eke out a first-place finish.

73 posted on 05/09/2007 8:19:45 AM PDT by CommerceComet
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