Skip to comments.Carter seeks to split Evangelicals from Israel support
Posted on 05/10/2007 1:33:20 PM PDT by West Coast Conservative
Former President Jimmy Carter recently has stepped up his efforts to split the bonds between Evangelical voters and Israel. From The Jewish Week:
Wading into the delicate fray over the alliance between Jews and pro-Israel Evangelicals, former President Jimmy Carter last week reportedly said it was a mistake for Jews to accept such ties, and that he was working to convince Southern Baptists to change the way they look at Judaism and the Middle East.
Christian Zionists can be better friends of Israel by challenging its government's policies, while accepting Judaism as a legitimate path to God, Carter told a group organized by Rabbi Michael Lerner in California last week, according to the rabbi.
"He said it was a terrible error for Jews to become allied with Christian Zionists who actually desire our conversion or burning in hell," Rabbi Lerner related in an interview Tuesday.
The alliance between Jewish and Evangelical Christian supporters of Israel has grown over the years. Evangelical support for Israel is often misunderstood and in some cases maligned-it comes often from the most noble of reasons. Regardless of one's views, this support has been very important.
The International Fellowship of Christian and Jews, headed by Rabbi Yechiel Eckstein, has been in the forefront of building these links and raises many millions of dollars from Evangelical Christians to help Jews around the world who are in need. Christians United for Israel has become a politically influential voice for Israel around the nation. In an era during which Israel has lost support in many quarters, this support from Evangelical Christians should be welcomed. Yet, there are forces developing that are not attempting to erode this support. I wrote about this dynamic earlier in this article, "Splitting the Evanngelicals from Israel".
Is it surprising that a dumbass who pretends to be a nuclear scientist also pretends to be a theologian?
If I remember correctly Revelation prophecy says that in the end times (All Nations will come against Israel) Is Carter doing his part to ensure that the U.S. does its part in meeting that prediction?
“He said it was a terrible error for Jews to become allied with Christian Zionists who actually desire our conversion or burning in hell,” Rabbi Lerner related in an interview Tuesday.”
Better to become allied with liberals who want Israel to burn now, I guess.
He’s certainly trying his level best to destroy Israel, that’s for sure.
Only as surprising as the attention paid to his blathering idiocy.
On the other hand he's keeping demons entertained who'd otherwise be bothering other people.
Hasn’t this guy done enough damage to the World already?
Darn, I actually voted for him.....twice.
You know, I was just reading about Reagan at Reykjavik, and to even allow the words Jimmy Carter on this fine website is almost sacrilige. We shoud borrow a line from Harry Potter; from now on Carter should be refered to as: “The peanut farmer who must not be named.” Or, “the peanut farmer whos name makes me ill.”
Hurry up and die Jimmah, you miserable old POS.
I don’t think he’s stupid or senile; I think the Arabs bought the sunuvabich.
Gen 12:3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.
You're a legend in your own mind, Jimmuh.
Joshua Murchavik wrote an article on Jimmah's anti-Semitism, but Murchavik neglected to mention racist populist, Tom Watson, as the probable influence for Carter's judenhass.
Tell us more.
Well, you were young and foolish. Weren't we all? I voted for McGovern (she said in mortification).
He’s a paid shill of the Saudis. He’s an antisemite.
Jews are prohibited from even entering Saudi Arabia.
Don’t Jews have a “Covenant”?
BTW, this Rabbi Lerner is a 9/11 truth nutcase. Shows what kind of people support Jimmah.
Surprise; I disagree with the drooling old fool on both counts: I support its government's policies most of the time (when they're bold and assertive), and I reject Judaism as (anymore) a legitimate path to God.
Carter can stick it in his ear. He’s a walking fraud and has no business attempting to speak for Southern Baptists because he ISN’T ONE!
Carter’s views on Israel make the Klan, neo-nazis, and Islamo-fascists proud.
He was a nutcase long before 9/11!
Wow Dershowitz said that. amazing
AKA "Rabbi Moonbeams"
Carter will not be able to dissuade Baptists from their support of Israel if they are Bible-believing Baptists.
I do not know about the Southern Baptist Convention folks. I am a member of a Baptist church, but not a member of one which has any affiliation with any denominational structure. We still believe what earlier Southern Baptists believed — local church autonomy. But my question is: are most Southern Baptist folks still Premillennial in their eschatology? Or has this shifted?
Jimmy Carter and Michael Lerner hanging out together alert ping!
Is it really true that Carter is not a member of a Southern Baptist church? Do we know where he keeps his membership?
The purpose of this Carter-Lerner alliance is purely political and their agenda is to harm Israel in any way possible.
IMO, Jimmah Carter has gone so far over the edge, he should just be let go to drift out into the atmosphere.
He is nuttier now than he ever was in office, and he certainly was no prize then.
What the Israel ever do to him that he is so passionate about doing anything to hurt them?
As far as I know he left the SBC and joined up with the liberal Cooperative Baptist Fellowship some years ago.
“Jimmah needs to read his Bible now and then...”
You’d think that a former sunday school teacher would already know what it says. Just more proof the man is clueless.
Anything that isolates Israel is fair game to them. He is a Jew hater of the first order.
You said — “Is Carter doing his part to ensure that the U.S. does its part in meeting that prediction?”
Well, he might be trying to, but he won’t accomplish it for the Evangelicals who know the Bible. However, when the Rapture happens, it will be a different story for the U.S. and then it will probably join the rest of the world against Israel...
it will never happen, not with true believers anyway.
The article said — “... he was working to convince Southern Baptists to change the way they look at Judaism and the Middle East.”
I thought Carter quit the Southern Baptist in protest of their statement of faith. If so, what’s he trying to do in influencing the Southern Baptists? He’s not one anyway....
Joshua Murchavik, in his "Commentary" article on Jimmy Carter, alludes to Jimmah's anti-Semitism as related to the principles of the Vatican before the earth shaking Vatican II.
I'm pretty sure that pre Vatican II thinking matters very little to Southern Baptist, Jimmy Carter. I think Jimmah's anti-Semitism stems more from his admiration for the racist, anti-Semitic populist, Tom Watson. Carter has expressed his admiration for the anti-Semitic populist who was largely responsible for the Jewish Leo Frank getting lynched.
If any freeper wants to read more about racist populist, Tom Watson, and his influence on the Carter family one can read the letters section of the present edition of "Commentary" magazine (just out). Joshua Murchavik also acknowledges the prescience of the commentators about Tom Watson in his reply to his critics. Ayn Rand first alerted me and her other listeners to Carter's phoniness when, before the 76 election, she pointed out that Carter was infected with power lust.
From the mouth of ‘Possum Man:
“President Jimmy Carter last week reportedly said it was a mistake for Jews to accept such ties”.
“He said it was a terrible error for Jews to become allied with Christian Zionists who actually desire our conversion or burning in hell,”
This one Jew who is convinced that ‘Possum Man does not have the best interests of either Christians or Jews at heart. I think he is merely blathering what his Saudi paymasters wish him to say.
I think my favorite part of this is that there are people who think Jimmy Carter actually has some credibility or stroke with Evangelicals.
You asked — “But my question is: are most Southern Baptist folks still Premillennial in their eschatology? Or has this shifted?”
I don’t know about most Southern Baptists, but this one is... :-) ... and dispensational...
You asked — “Is it really true that Carter is not a member of a Southern Baptist church? Do we know where he keeps his membership?”
Well, I read that he quit his membership not too long ago (a few years back) when the Southern Baptists updated a portion of their statement of faith. He quit in protest over it. That was good for the Southern Baptists to get rid of someone like him. They don’t need a Jimmy Carter type in the ranks of the Southern Baptists. Now, if they could get rid of Clinton, too....
Since Carter gave Southern Baptists the big heave-ho several years ago, I don’t think too many will give a hoot what he thinks—that is, if they ever did in the first place.
Carter is such a tool.
What an evil man.
Same trouble with Carter as a President and a longer and worse time as an ex-President.
I cannot wait for the time when I get to watch his state funeral on TV. The speeches by the attendees should be very funny indeed.
Personally I could wrap it up by saying there goes a miserable anti-semite A-hole. He (the cheap bastard) probably wont tip the boatman either.