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Bloomberg poised for third-party campaign
THE WASHINGTON TIMES ^ | May 15, 2007 | Ralph Z. Hallow

Posted on 05/15/2007 7:29:21 AM PDT by Jake The Goose

New York Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg is prepared to spend an unprecedented $1 billion of his own $5.5 billion personal fortune for a third-party presidential campaign, personal friends of the mayor tell The Washington Times. "He has set aside $1 billion to go for it," confided a long-time business adviser to the Republican mayor. "The thinking about where it will come from and do we have it is over, and the answer is yes, we can do it." Another personal friend and fellow Republican said in recent days that Mr. Bloomberg, who is a social liberal and fiscal conservative, has "lowered the bar" and upped the ante for a final decision on making a run.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bloomberg; election; independent
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I can't claim to know enough to pass a judgment - but a lot of New Yorkers swear by this man.

I have to learn a lot more.

Third Party though - I wish he would consider one of the parties.

1 posted on 05/15/2007 7:29:23 AM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: Jake The Goose

This would hurt Hillary more than any republican (except maybe Rudy)


2 posted on 05/15/2007 7:30:55 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Jake The Goose

He’ll hurt the Democrats if he does this. Think Perot and Buchanan in reverse from 1992. The only reason he’s a ‘republican’ is because the NY GOP is a bunch of losers, and the Democrats wouldn’t let him be their nominee.


3 posted on 05/15/2007 7:31:45 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: Jake The Goose

A dyed-in-the-wool limousine liberal, Bloomberg makes Rudy look like a John Bircher.


4 posted on 05/15/2007 7:32:58 AM PDT by KingSnorky
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To: Jake The Goose

Why?


5 posted on 05/15/2007 7:33:32 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Badeye

>>The only reason he’s a ‘republican’ is because the NY GOP is a bunch of losers<<

Exactly. The only reason Bloomberg ran as a Republican in NYC is because the line was shorter.


6 posted on 05/15/2007 7:34:07 AM PDT by KingSnorky
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To: Badeye
He’ll hurt the Democrats if he does this.

So - maybe we're all OK with this?

7 posted on 05/15/2007 7:34:16 AM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: Jake The Goose

The only thing he endangers is NY (which we won’t win anyway, unless Rudy wins the Republican primary, which he won’t) and Hillary support elsewhere.


8 posted on 05/15/2007 7:35:22 AM PDT by krb (If you're not outraged, people probably like having you around.)
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To: AppyPappy

Why?

You mean why consider one of the parties?

Because third party runs are junk investments.

FYI - I voted for Perot - so I have some regrettable experience.


9 posted on 05/15/2007 7:35:46 AM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: Jake The Goose

Just say NO to New Yorkers! Enough of all of them! New York already controls far to much of the USA with it’s Federal Reserve Bank, investment banking houses like Goldman Sachs, the leading stock exchanges, activist Attorney General, major media nexus and the rest.

Just say NO! to more New Yorkers running the rest of us like a colony. NO RUDY! NO HILLARY! NO BLOOMBERG! NO SHARPTON! NO NEW YORKERS FOR PRESIDENT!


10 posted on 05/15/2007 7:35:53 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: krb
The only thing he endangers is NY (which we won’t win anyway, unless Rudy wins the Republican primary, which he won’t) and Hillary support elsewhere.

There seems to be a consensus here.

11 posted on 05/15/2007 7:36:53 AM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: Jake The Goose
Let's see... rich guy launches third-party Presidential bid that he has no intention of winning in order to divert conservative votes from the GOP candidate and deliver the election to a Democrat named Clinton.

Why does this sound so familiar?

The good news is, an East Coast aristocrat-wannabe like Bloomie will probably divert more Democrats than Republicans.

12 posted on 05/15/2007 7:37:20 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("All the measures of the law should protect property and punish plunder." --Frederic Bastiat)
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To: Jake The Goose

I wonder.....does Bloomers receive any Republican money from a larger fund (RNC)?


13 posted on 05/15/2007 7:38:51 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (Discrimination against Muslims is acceptable if we are to survive.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Your theme seems to be the majority.

I don’t think I have ever heard Bloomberg talk at length about anything.


14 posted on 05/15/2007 7:39:45 AM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: Jake The Goose

Why would Bloomberg run? What makes him special?


15 posted on 05/15/2007 7:40:26 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: RacerF150

I don’t know the answer to that.

If he want to run as an indy - I don’t he wants any ties to the RNC.

Good question though.


16 posted on 05/15/2007 7:40:50 AM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: Jake The Goose

Well,if Bloomberg won’t run as a Democrat, a third party would suffice.

He’s a huge liberal. I think he would split the Dem’s and take very few Republican votes with him. He’d only take Republican votes in very blue states.

So I hope he runs.


17 posted on 05/15/2007 7:40:55 AM PDT by SampleMan (Islamic tolerance is practiced by killing you last.)
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To: Jake The Goose

I hae no problem with a self absorbed billionaire blowing his money on a unattainable goal...and yep, I think it will help the GOP if he actually does this.

The Weekly Standard has a good piece on this matter from last weeks issue, btw.

He might not have the effect of Perot and Buchanan in 92, thinking about it further. But he could take the same percentage of the vote Nader claimed in 2000.

I think he could draw off a rather large percentage of Democrats disenchanted with Clinton, for just one example.


18 posted on 05/15/2007 7:41:25 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: AppyPappy
Why would Bloomberg run? What makes him special?

Exactly...

19 posted on 05/15/2007 7:41:29 AM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Now that’s interesting. When we call Jews aristocrats the world is up side down.


20 posted on 05/15/2007 7:42:02 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: SampleMan

Ok - I am learning from this thread.

Thanks


21 posted on 05/15/2007 7:42:08 AM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: Badeye

I will seek the Weekly Standard article.

Thanks for that.


22 posted on 05/15/2007 7:43:22 AM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: Jake The Goose
Bloomberg is a business and administrative genius. I've been a customer of his for decades, live near him in Manhattan, and as a lifelong (uh, native) New Yorker, feel comfortable saying he's built beautifully on what Rudy did to turn the city around.

That said, he is indeed a LimoLib, and is very very socially left-of-center. His work to restrict gun rights is downright heinous.

I cannot imagine him attracting any "conservative" votes.

23 posted on 05/15/2007 7:44:24 AM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: NativeNewYorker

Great feedback - I just got off the phone with a buddy that lives in NYC.

He said exactly what you said.

Thanks


24 posted on 05/15/2007 7:45:30 AM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: AppyPappy

He’s rich and he wants the job?


25 posted on 05/15/2007 7:46:06 AM PDT by krb (If you're not outraged, people probably like having you around.)
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To: Jake The Goose

Maybe we can get him to run with Nader or Sharpton as his running mates.


26 posted on 05/15/2007 7:47:09 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: AppyPappy
What makes him special?

He tinks he's impotent...And he's got da moolah.

27 posted on 05/15/2007 7:47:51 AM PDT by Osage Orange (Every attempt to make war easy & safe will result in humiliation and disaster.-W. T. Sherman)
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To: krb

But he has no platform. Even Perot had a platform.


28 posted on 05/15/2007 7:48:08 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Jake The Goose

Mayor Bloomberg is a Democrat.

He changed parties to run for mayor in New York when he couldn’t et nominated as a Democrat. He’s a liberal on most issues like the Second Amendment. Probably a Rudy Giuliani Clone.

Hope he runs as a third party candidate and steals Democrat votes.

I can’t stand the guy.


29 posted on 05/15/2007 7:48:33 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: Jake The Goose

Then let him take New York from Hillary.


30 posted on 05/15/2007 7:49:19 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: ZULU

I would say we have a consensus.

His run would take more votes from Hillary than the GOP nominee.

Seems like that’s what everyone has to say.


31 posted on 05/15/2007 7:50:02 AM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: Jake The Goose

Don’t think this wouldn’t hurt the GOP. He might make even RINOs look good, but the MSM will label him a Maverick republican who stands up against the special interest. That and his own money will buy a lot of votes.


32 posted on 05/15/2007 7:50:52 AM PDT by jbwbubba
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To: jbwbubba
the MSM will label him a Maverick republican who stands up against the special interest.

Good point.

33 posted on 05/15/2007 7:51:47 AM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: ClaireSolt
When we call Jews aristocrats the world is up side down.


34 posted on 05/15/2007 7:51:49 AM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: AppyPappy
Why would Bloomberg run?

There are several reasons, but the top 3 are:
1. Ego
2. Ego
3. Ego

35 posted on 05/15/2007 7:52:23 AM PDT by Aegedius (Veni, vidi, icked-kay utt-bay.)
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To: Jake The Goose
Here's everything you need to know about Bloombust. He might spend $1 billion of his own money, but outside of New York, it won't do him a bit of good, especially down South and out West, where most folks find him obnoxious and simply grating.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1554687/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1833090/posts

36 posted on 05/15/2007 7:52:38 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: Aegedius

BINGO


37 posted on 05/15/2007 7:52:49 AM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Outstanding - thanks a ton for that.

I will do my homework.

Nice of you - I appreciate that.


38 posted on 05/15/2007 7:53:34 AM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: Jake The Goose

We already have two spoilers. We don’t need a third!


39 posted on 05/15/2007 7:53:56 AM PDT by Paperdoll ( Duncan Hunter '08)
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To: Jake The Goose
>"He has set aside $1 billion to go for it," confided a long-time business adviser

Oh man. I felt good
I'd set aside twenty bucks
for last Mother's Day...

40 posted on 05/15/2007 7:54:40 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: Paperdoll

Most seem to feel that Bloomberg might take votes out of Hillary’s camp.

Maybe that’s a good thing.

There are a lot of Dems who don’t want to vote for Hillary.

If they won’t go GOP - maybe having an indy option isn’t a bad thing?


41 posted on 05/15/2007 7:55:46 AM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: Jake The Goose

Given the tone of this thread - Bloomberg hurts Hillary.

I wonder how long before the Clinton camp goes after him?

and.... what will be his reaction to those attacks?


42 posted on 05/15/2007 7:58:07 AM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: Jake The Goose

>Most seem to feel that Bloomberg might take votes out of Hillary’s camp.<

Let’s hope most are right.


43 posted on 05/15/2007 7:59:38 AM PDT by Paperdoll ( Duncan Hunter '08)
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To: Paperdoll

Whatever the outcome - you have to admit - 08’ is getting more
wild by the minute.

It’s gonna get ugly out there.

Gotta love it - only in America.


44 posted on 05/15/2007 8:01:31 AM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: Jake The Goose

Now either this gadfly Ross Perot wannabe is in, or he isn’t.

Chances of cracking the Democratican “code of silence” are somewhere between zip and none, and his chances are about equally as good breaking into the Republican column, despite his nominal party affiliation.

That pretty much leaves third-party, a track that Ross Perot took in 1992 and 1996, thus assuring the election of a plurality candidate.

But are we going to see a choice of New York, New York and (faux) New York?

America is better than that.


45 posted on 05/15/2007 8:05:04 AM PDT by alloysteel (For those who cannot turn back time, there is always the option of re-writing history.)
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To: KingSnorky
A dyed-in-the-wool limousine liberal, Bloomberg makes Rudy look like a John Bircher.

Or Kurt Saxon for that matter.

46 posted on 05/15/2007 8:07:41 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Killing all of your enemies without mercy is the only sure way of sleeping soundly at night.)
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To: Jake The Goose

My pleasure. It appears most of the articles we are seeing about Bloomberg were written after TWS put him on the cover, but thats just a guess.


47 posted on 05/15/2007 8:07:48 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: AppyPappy

I have 3 concerns about a Bloomberg bid.
1) Bloomberg will claim to be a “social liberal and fiscal conservative”. From what I can tell, Bloomberg isn’t conservative on any level. However, if he claims this he might be able to sway enough disenchanted Libertarians to hurt us in Colorado and other western states that lean GOP/libertarian.
2) If Hagel runs with him, this gives this ticket the appearance of an alternative to Republicans and probably hurts whoever the GOP candidate is.
3) If Rudy does happen to be the GOP nominee, Bloomberg would hurt him in New York.


48 posted on 05/15/2007 8:14:40 AM PDT by Mister Politics (www.misterpolitics.com)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

My husband used to work for Bloomberg, back in the days when he would have an employee picnic at his Connecticutt house. So I’ve shaken his hand a few times - he’s not a preposessing man in person. Even less so on TV or radio, one of the most annoying little gits I’ve seen or heard.

In the north-east, he could draw off the votes of the Weld-Whitman-Specter Republican wing, but in the rest of the country it wold be the Democrats interested if anyone. However, in the rest of the country, he’ll have minimal appeal so it might prove a net loss for Republicans after all.

On the other other hand, the prospect of him shovelling his money down a rabbit hole is pleasant.

Mrs VS


49 posted on 05/15/2007 8:15:15 AM PDT by VeritatisSplendor
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To: Jake The Goose

You can’t be serious. You act as though you didn’t know that Mike Bloomberg was another Rudy Giuliani. Mike and Rudy are both liberals who came out of the political sewers that are NYC liberal politics. Both men are lowlife skunks.

You’ll try anything to get liberals promoted around this forum. ANYTHING! LOL


50 posted on 05/15/2007 8:15:36 AM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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