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STOP AMNESTY NOW!! WE CAN DO IT!!
me | 05-17-2007 | Me

Posted on 05/16/2007 10:25:05 PM PDT by Cacique

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To: Mrs.Liberty
"Many Senators are telling staffers and other Senators that they are inclined to vote for the giant Kennedy/Bush amnesty bill (S. 1348) next week because they say they have been surprised at how few phone calls of protest they've gotten during the last two months of highly-publicized negotiations to create the amnesty. .

They are concluding that the citizens of their states just aren't all that worked up about granting an amnesty. And they're interpreting that as a green light to give corporations the huge new supplies of legal foreign labor they desire. .

These are Senators who have voted against amnesty in the past..

Brain-dead Idiots!

Once we give the Illegal labor work force their Citizenship, who will take their place? Duh...

They're a bunch of LIARS when they say they aren't hearing from the American peope about this..Unless the only thing they can understand is a phone call?!!

sw

101 posted on 05/17/2007 9:29:37 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife (Build it and they won't come)
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To: elizabetty
I agree a telephone call is the best approach at this stage since a letter would take too long.

Why are our politicians in such a frenzied obsession to grant amnesty that is so detrimental to our country? Is it because:
*They are bribed/blackmailed?
*They have infiltrated our government on behalf of foreign interests?
*They are delusional or suffer from other mental problems?
*They hate this country.
*They are fanatics for One World.

There are not a single legitimate reason to support amnesty. I know many legal immigrants who went through the system. Why should illegal immigrants - those who demonstrate a willingness to break laws - be given special admission? It sure helps admission to terrorists, the insane, and dangerous criminals who might otherwise be rejected. The message of amnesty is: break the laws and you will be rewarded.

102 posted on 05/17/2007 9:29:38 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: kabar

Unlike other visa programs or legal immigration policies?
***Red Herring.

Do you disagree with the program itself or how it is administered?
***The program itself was intended to bring in the best & brightest technogeeks that we don’t have here in the U.S. That in itself suggests that no one should be coming here without a PhD. The way the program is being administered is that it’s a way to lower the wages for IT workers and other tech types. Very, Very few of the people who come here within the H1B program have degrees or knowledge that other americans don’t have; they simply are willing to work at a cheaper wage for 6 years in the hopes of obtaining a green card. It’s fraudulent.

The Reps had control of the House for 12 years. They bear some of the reponsibility for the sad state of our immigration policy and the lack of enforcement of the laws on the books.
***I agree.

What agenda are you talking about?
***Whatever your agenda is that makes you swallow a camel while straining at a gnat. You overlook Hunter’s top-notch credentials for battling illegal immigration while coming up with some nonsense about the minute details of some legal immigration policies that could use some cleaning up as well.

Reforming our legal immigration laws?
***Nope. Note that this is a question intended to draw away from the issue at hand, therefore it is a hidden straw argument.

Securing our borders?
***Nope. Again this is a question intended to draw away from the issue at hand, therefore it is a hidden straw argument.

Having a system that brings in immigrants we need in terms of skills and talents rather than the current chain migration laws and self-selected immigrants who enter our country illegally?
***Nope. Again this is a question intended to draw away from the issue at hand, therefore it is a hidden straw argument. We don’t need 90-95% of those H1B visas, and if companies were forced to pay market wage for those people, the program would wither on the vine.

What is your agenda?
***You have no reason to ask. You keep trying to veer away from the fact that your agenda has been spotlighted by your contorted perspective which causes you to focus on smaller issues while ignoring bigger issues.


103 posted on 05/17/2007 9:34:29 AM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: spectre

Even after 9/11 and the recent arrests of Albanian terrorists, these corrupt Senators pretend that illegal aliens are no danger. They know that the voters are against it. Yet their agenda appears to be to harm this country even if it costs them votes.


104 posted on 05/17/2007 9:37:44 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: Cacique
You're a saint.

Everyone needs to get on the blower to their senator NOW.

105 posted on 05/17/2007 9:43:18 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: airborne; All

See #6 on how to contact your Congressmen. You can readily find phone numbers, etc. simply by listing your zip code.


106 posted on 05/17/2007 9:43:39 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance
Well stated.

I did not see Newt on Greta's show last evening, but several said he had good, workable ideas on dealing with the problem of illegal aliens.

107 posted on 05/17/2007 9:46:26 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: airborne

BUMP


108 posted on 05/17/2007 9:47:37 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: kabar

What the hell are you talking about? Does Duncan Hunter support HR 938, which is a Rep sponsored bill?
***As I stated in another post, you have an agenda that I’m not all that interested in pursuing. Or helping you with. If you want to know, you go fetch.


109 posted on 05/17/2007 9:50:05 AM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: endthematrix; The Spirit Of Allegiance

“seen the toolkit. Thanks!”

Spirit....I’ve never seen it either and am wondering why not? I have paid close attention to everything having to do with illegal immigration/amnesty...but never came across your thread and would have actively participated, had I known!! I just can’t believe that something this important was posted back at the end of March for April activity and I ‘missed’ it!


110 posted on 05/17/2007 9:57:48 AM PDT by Kimberly GG (DUNCAN HUNTER '08.....lframerica.com.....MARCH TO TAKE BACK AMERICA)
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To: Dante3
I'm wondering if the way to fight this is from the left. Say you have two Rat senators, and a flaming liberal Rat house member, of course, they will ignore any message in any form that uses the word, "amnesty".

What if you try to persuade them that the fines are just too much? What if they poison the bill with diluted fines, penalties, etc. SO much, that even the RINOs cannot support it?

Anybody have the ability to put their moonbat hat on, and come up with a list of five or six poison pills for Blue State Freepers to write to their Rat representatives about?

111 posted on 05/17/2007 9:58:19 AM PDT by hunter112
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To: endthematrix; The Spirit Of Allegiance

Sorry, nevermind about previous...figured it out.


112 posted on 05/17/2007 10:00:31 AM PDT by Kimberly GG (DUNCAN HUNTER '08.....lframerica.com.....MARCH TO TAKE BACK AMERICA)
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To: All

Fox announced earlier that Kennedy was to make an announcement at 12:30....I’ve seen nothing yet...anyone else?


113 posted on 05/17/2007 10:02:54 AM PDT by Kimberly GG (DUNCAN HUNTER '08.....lframerica.com.....MARCH TO TAKE BACK AMERICA)
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To: sandyeggo

Thanks.


114 posted on 05/17/2007 10:05:43 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Dante3
Just last week, ICE arrested 12 Illegal Aliens working for a Contractor on Camp Robinson (National Guard), in North Little Rock Arkansas.

They are in the process of being deported.

We were fortunate they weren't the Terrorists Bush is warning us about.

Bush must think the Illegals coming in from Mexico are all Saints, since he's working so hard to give them amnesty.

sw

115 posted on 05/17/2007 10:10:01 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife (Build it and they won't come)
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To: 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; alisasny; ALlRightAllTheTime; AlwaysFree; ...

PING!

The bi-partisan committing of unnatural political acts against the American people continues! BOHICA!


116 posted on 05/17/2007 10:14:05 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (G*d bless and heal Virginia Tech!)
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To: Cacique
DO NOT JUST SEND EMAILS TO YOUR CONGRESSMAN OR SENATOR. For the most part they get deleted as spam and don't have much impact. It also shows a lack of commitment and that you are lazy. INSTEAD INVEST IN POSTAGE STAMPS. There is nothing more impressive than postal service trucks showing up at congress with bags full of envelopes with paper mail.

Given the security measures implemented since the Anthrax letter attacks of 2001, the first of these mailings should start landing on Senators' desks sometime AFTER the amnesty vote goes down. Send postcards instead.

117 posted on 05/17/2007 10:16:15 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (G*d bless and heal Virginia Tech!)
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To: Kimberly GG; All
CNN Headline News just confirmed "Press Conference in 15 minutes".
118 posted on 05/17/2007 10:19:37 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife (Build it and they won't come)
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To: jazusamo

PING


119 posted on 05/17/2007 10:28:52 AM PDT by Paperdoll (GO DUNCAN HUNTER!)
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To: spectre
This is so sickening...

..quick legal status....

...I can't forget the disgusting 'marches' and those illegals getting in front of the camera demanding this and that.

This burns!

120 posted on 05/17/2007 10:29:32 AM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President, 2008!!)
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