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Iran Crosses the Red Line
FrontPage.com ^ | May 17 | Kenneth Timmerman

Posted on 05/17/2007 10:22:30 AM PDT by PghBaldy

Iran has officially crossed the “red line” in its nuclear weapons development. That is the conclusion a team of International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) inspectors reached after a surprise inspection of Iran’s uranium enrichment plant at Natanz this past Sunday...The Israelis have warned for years that once Iran “crossed the red line” of mastering enrichment technology, they would take military action. They have never said when, or how. But they have assumed, rightly, that any Iranian nuclear weapon would have ISRAEL written all over it, and are determined to prevent it from being built.

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TOPICS: Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iaea; iran
I have read about another "red line," when they ban inspectors completely (it might have been a writer at the National Review). At that point, there would be no telling how close they are, and how much time is left before disaster.
1 posted on 05/17/2007 10:22:33 AM PDT by PghBaldy
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To: PghBaldy

Talk talk talk talk talk talk talk...

I’m so sick of talk.


2 posted on 05/17/2007 10:29:08 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: PghBaldy
Iran wants an Isreali attack.

Or at least they are acting like they do.

3 posted on 05/17/2007 10:30:41 AM PDT by AU72
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To: PghBaldy

Sounds like it’s time to move the “red line” back a few more feet.


4 posted on 05/17/2007 10:32:23 AM PDT by JZelle
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To: PghBaldy

Israel is the only nation that has the serious motivation to derail Iran’s nuclear program. The UN is worthless, the Europeans still think diplomacy and appeasement will work and George Bush has been emasculated by the Democrat Congress. Only the Israelis have the will to act and for the sake of the world lets hope they have the means to do it successfully soon.


5 posted on 05/17/2007 10:32:23 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: The Great RJ

I would agree if Ohmert weren’t the Prime Minister .... but with him, I’m not sure Israel will act.


6 posted on 05/17/2007 10:34:06 AM PDT by Mac94
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To: Nathan Zachary

7 posted on 05/17/2007 10:37:23 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Mac94
Olmert's a symptom of a sick body politic in Israel...the mere fact that he's still in office this long after last year's Lebonese military disaster tells me all I need to know about how the majority of Israelis feel about Iran: A-OK to build nukes, nobody believes they even exist, and even if they do exist, praying Iran never uses them is the preferred solution.

I hope it's not Tel Aviv to get blown off the map first. There are a lot of good people there.

8 posted on 05/17/2007 10:42:44 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Did Dennis Kucinich always look like that or did he have to submit to a series of shots? [firehat])
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To: PghBaldy
Apparently not the thin red line. I don’t think anyone is going to attack Iran. Many of their facilities are 70 feet underground, and moving around concrete will not do the job.
9 posted on 05/17/2007 10:43:27 AM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: Cyber Liberty

Just so. The thought of Olmert and Peretz and their friends running a war against Iran is laughable.

Syria is gearing up for an attack too.

And the Israeli people are sitting there twiddling their thumbs. At this point it needs some divine intervention.


10 posted on 05/17/2007 10:45:46 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Nathan Zachary
Well, they still need to violate another 956 UN “slap on the wrist” resolutions before we can “lie” our way into military action.
11 posted on 05/17/2007 10:50:11 AM PDT by chaos_5
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To: Nathan Zachary
>I’m so sick of talk

Words! Words! Words!
I'm so sick of words!
I get words all day through;
First from him, now from you!
Is that all you blighters can do?

Don't talk of stars burning above;
If you're in love, show me!
Tell me no dreams filled with desire.
If you're on fire, show me!

Here we are together in the middle of the night!
Don't talk of spring! Just hold me tight!

Anyone who's ever been in love'll tell you that
This is no time for a chat!

Haven't your lips longed for my touch?
Don't say how much, show me!
Show me!
Don't talk of love lasting through time.
Make me no undying vow.
Show me now!

Sing me no song! Read me no rhyme!
Don't waste my time, show me!
Don't talk of June, don't talk of fall!
Don't talk at all! Show me!

Never do I ever want to hear another word.
There isn't one I haven't heard.

Here we are together in what ought to be a dream;
Say one more word and I'll scream!

Haven't your arms hungered for mine?
Please don't explain, show me!
Show me!

Don't wait until wrinkles and lines
Pop out all over my brow,
Show me now!

12 posted on 05/17/2007 10:50:27 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: PghBaldy
The Israelis have warned for years that once Iran “crossed the red line” of mastering enrichment technology, they would take military action. They have never said when, or how

Obviously not Democrats.

13 posted on 05/17/2007 10:51:33 AM PDT by technomage (You get what you want one step at a time)
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia

‘Apparently not the thin red line. I don’t think anyone is going to attack Iran. Many of their facilities are 70 feet underground, and moving around concrete will not do the job.’

Actually, given the centrifuges used, a well placed piece of very heavy ordinance could in fact seriously disrupt the program. You require thousands of these things spinning at very high rpms, so high that ‘negotiating’ several speeds is a tedious, dangerous process all by itself. A ‘good shake’ from a weapon dropped perfectly, or even a act of nature like a earthquake could wipe them all out just because of the physics involved, from what I’ve read.


14 posted on 05/17/2007 10:54:34 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: PghBaldy

Is there a mailing address I can send a contribution to to support the Israeli military?

They apparently have more testacles than Jorge El Segundo.


15 posted on 05/17/2007 10:57:10 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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16 posted on 05/17/2007 11:02:30 AM PDT by SJackson (Arab leaders don't give a damn whether the refugees live or die, R. Garroway, UNWRA director, 8/58)
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To: PghBaldy

Thanks a bunch El-Bardari.

Wonder how much of a pay raise he gets for watching this happen??


17 posted on 05/17/2007 11:09:28 AM PDT by rod1 (uake)
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To: Badeye
I thought Iran had spread around their facilities all over the country. I know we have bunker busters, but given how many of Saddam’s bunkers survived, I wonder how many days of bombing would it take.
I suppose the USA could get the job done, if persistent. However, Israel using conventional weapons probably doesn’t have the ability to destroy all the nuke facilities.
18 posted on 05/17/2007 11:13:23 AM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia

‘I thought Iran had spread around their facilities all over the country. I know we have bunker busters, but given how many of Saddam’s bunkers survived, I wonder how many days of bombing would it take.
I suppose the USA could get the job done, if persistent. However, Israel using conventional weapons probably doesn’t have the ability to destroy all the nuke facilities.’

They have ‘spread around their facilities’. But you can’t hide 25,000 centerfuges running at top speed, and you can’t just house them ‘anywhere’ its quite a production just building the facility - within a facility - to do this stuff. They are large, fragile (built from fiber carbon from what I understand to better withstand the strains of the speeds involved) and LOUD, with plenty of vibration. I suspect the heat alone gives away the location(s).

A ‘shift’ of minor nature is enough to cause them to become unbalanced, and at those speeds they run at, you can’t just ‘shut them off’ because they are fiber carbon and will more or less collapse upon themselves, releasing a gas thats 100% fatal to humans.

This is the extend to which I understand the process...I’m sure there are others that can amplify or correct any misconceptions I might inadvertently be presenting here.


19 posted on 05/17/2007 11:19:31 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: Nathan Zachary

Resulting from the West’a talking and delaying we are going to wake up one morning to an Iranian ‘nuclear’ version of 9-11.


20 posted on 05/17/2007 11:24:05 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia

I know exactly how to shut them down. It’s not very nice, but it would work perfectly. But of course, not many are willing to go there.


21 posted on 05/17/2007 1:26:03 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Mac94

Netanyahu will be there before the summer is over.


22 posted on 05/17/2007 1:33:26 PM PDT by wordsofearnest (Zachary Taylor s/h finished the job.)
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To: theFIRMbss
Should have posted a photo of Marnie Nixon since she actually sang the song in the movie.

Why they didn't use Julie Andrews in the movie since she did the role on Broadway is one of life's mysteries.

23 posted on 05/17/2007 1:36:44 PM PDT by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: wordsofearnest

Hope so, Israeli needs Bibi.


24 posted on 05/17/2007 1:36:59 PM PDT by Mac94
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To: Badeye
A ‘shift’ of minor nature is enough to cause them to become unbalanced, and at those speeds they run at, you can’t just ‘shut them off’ because they are fiber carbon and will more or less collapse upon themselves, releasing a gas thats 100% fatal to humans.

Encouraging news.

25 posted on 05/17/2007 7:27:50 PM PDT by happygrl (Dunderhead for HONOR)
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To: PghBaldy
I have read about another "red line," when they ban inspectors completely (it might have been a writer at the National Review). At that point, there would be no telling how close they are, and how much time is left before disaster.

The inspector redline may not exist if Iran is unconcerned about them ever finding their "secret" locations..
Why ban inspectors if they aren't even close to knowing where to look?

Leaving the inspectors free to roam around inspecting "safe" sites creates a false illusion that no threat yet exists.

In such a scenario the first clue Israel gets is an incoming missile..

26 posted on 05/17/2007 9:49:26 PM PDT by Drammach ("If you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." -- Benjamin Franklin)
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28 posted on 05/18/2007 12:36:06 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: PghBaldy

Nothing will be done until just before a nuclear warhead is to be mounted on a Shahib-3 or the coming Shahib-4 and they are to go operationally nuclear.


29 posted on 05/18/2007 5:53:02 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 1 John 4:15, John 11:25, John 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13)
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To: Badeye

Thank you for that very informative post.


30 posted on 05/18/2007 10:52:19 AM PDT by agrace
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To: Mac94

I must agree with your Olmerde analysis. Hell, he’s just sitting on his hands while the mohammedans continue to launch kassams into Israeli territory.


31 posted on 05/18/2007 11:01:27 AM PDT by unionblue83 (Note to Dems:"Americans love a winner. Americans will not tolerate a loser." -Gen. Patton)
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To: Cicero

Olmerde will be playing the fiddle while watching the nuclear fires burn....


32 posted on 05/18/2007 11:03:41 AM PDT by unionblue83 (Note to Dems:"Americans love a winner. Americans will not tolerate a loser." -Gen. Patton)
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To: agrace

You are welcome.


33 posted on 05/21/2007 6:06:13 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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