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Posted on 05/18/2007 2:50:24 PM PDT by Sleeping Beauty
Good post The KG9 Kid.
I think the new helmets are a disgrace. They expose large areas of the head to fire. It rides too high.
I think the new helmets are a disgrace. They expose large areas of the head to fire. It rides too high.
Jihadis gave us the .45 ACP. Maybe they can get us back to 7.62x55,
barbra ann
Especially those that don’t leave the wire!
I don’t know about this case but Ordinance Deptartment brass sure tried to sabotage the M-16 back in the 1950’s.
TexKat — Those are all interesting links. I plan to explore them all. Thank so much for posting them.
SB
Great post, Kid.
What color do you prefer in your Dragon Skin:
A. Coyote Tan
B. Black
C. Olive Drab
D. Desert Tan
E. Woodland Camo
F. Army ACU
G. Marpat
H. Desert Camo
http://www.pinnaclearmor.com/body-armor/dragon-skin.php
Remember, E = mc2. You can run a very impressive test by varying the mass of the bullet or by slowing it down (less powder). Either way the energy can be greatly reduced and the armor “appears” to peform great. You need to see the V50s (velocity at which 50% of the rounds penetrate under controlled conditions) before you can even begin to make a decision about the effectiveness of the armor.
I doubt that the Army has any political agenda to not use Dragon Skin, and Dragon Skin did not even attempt to participate in the recent DHS $40M body armor procurement. (Most likely because DHS was after Level IIIA soft and not Level III hard armor.)
Also, Protective Products Intl (PPI) and and I believe First Choice Armor also make Interceptors or variants. The PPI vest for the Marines is impressive . . . Point Blank had the initial Interceptor contract and in the process alienated their state, local and federal law enforcement customers. I hear that the new management is trying to get them back.
Here's my latest 'Dark Earth' aquisition:
Yes, you could probably get away with suggesting the testers weren’t competent, but when you say they faked the x-ray data, you probably have already decided you can’t win a fair contest.
I wonder if the guy who designed this thing had ever even THOUGHT of passing the heat/cold tests. They aren’t trivial.
I saw the same show, on the surface it looked good, but what can you tell from a TV show. I think we don't know enough about the Army tests to know what the truth is. A jacket made of overlapping platelets may not work in some positions, running or maybe lying down. Who knows, but the current Army is not made of fools, they must have their reasons.
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and 5 times as expensive. And in some tests, didn’t work as well.
“Perhaps the biggest Army concern is Dragon Skin’s weight. An extra large vest is nearly 20 pounds heavier than the Army’s current armor, though Masters admitted it did have more rifle protective coverage than issued vests.”
Government testing would have ended right there. I’m sure Light weight was a must in the contract specifications for all military armor. Soldiers and Marines need manuverablility not extra weight.
Bump!
I don’t like it...don’t like it at all. First it looks expensive and brittle. Second it’s a crossover between a scope and a point and click...choose iron sights if you’re in that situation, they are harder to break. As to the topic of the thread scale armor...sounds like a good idea but the 20 extra #’s is a deal killer. What’s standard kit now like 80#’s?
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