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Woman outraged after daughter's picture is posted on pedophile web site
KOMO radio.com ^ | May 23,2007 | By Michelle Esteban

Posted on 05/24/2007 8:43:34 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway

"Stop, or else!"

That's the message from a local mom who is fed up with a self-proclaimed pedophile and his Web site that guides predators to young girls.

Jack McClellan admits he's a pedophile, whose full-time job is trolling for little girls. Once he finds them he puts that information on his site -- it's essentially a how-to guide for pedophiles.

"I'm mad, I'm mad somebody can invade our lives that way and it's okay, it's not okay!" says Sabrina, a concerned and determined Eastside mother.

Sabrina stopped Jack McClellan once, but he's back.

"The main thing -- I think they're cute, a lot cuter than women," McClellan said during a March interview.

Sabrina is determined to stop McClellan again. "I saw the site and the fear started welling up inside of me," she said.

What she saw was her own daughter's picture and personal details posted on McClellan's site. We won't use Sabrina's last name or her daughter's first name to protect the young girl's identity.

McClellan's site is a guide designed to help pedophiles find little girls from Bellingham to Tacoma. McClellan, Sabrina says, found her daughter at her school.

Even more disturbing to Sabrina -- she was with her daughter when Jack McClellan snapped the photographs. She was sitting about 50 yards away and had no idea McClellan was in the area, and no idea he was taking pictures of her daughter.

She warns parents to be vigilant everywhere and if strangers are lurking, ask questions. "I constantly am introducing myself to people I don't know, I tell them why I'm there and I ask 'why are you here?' "

She says challenge everyone, even school districts and their no-trespassing policies.

Now that McClellan's site is up again, Sabrina knows complaints aren't enough. She needs the law on her side.

State Senator Val Stevens says she was outraged when she learned McClellan's site was up and running again. She vowed in March when a Virginia Web provided pulled the plug on his site to keep him off-line.

"It's just a sicko that would want to use children in this manner," said Stevens.

The senator from the 39th District knows McClellan is not breaking any laws -- his first amendment rights allow him to do what he's doing.

So Stevens wants to change the law. She's drafting legislation for the next session. She says right now police officers are protected as Web sites can't post personal information about them.

"Why can't we do that for our children too?" asks Stevens. Her warning to McClellan: Stop or else.

"We're after you, guy, so help me!" warns Stevens.

"I think he needs to be put in his place, I think he needs to stop using children for his own selfish pleasures," says a determined Sabrina.

McClellan has not returned any calls for comment. His web site is now run by a Montreal-based web provider, and on the site McLellan says that because of "death threats" he won't make any public statements about his site.

Since McClellan is using a Canadian web provider, any Washington law could be toothless. Senator Stevens says she's aware of that and insists legislation has to start in our state - then she says she'll push for a federal law.

She's working with local child advocacy group Mother's Against Sexual Predators, who are just as determined as Sabrina.


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"his first amendment rights allow him to do what he's doing."...How does his first amendment rights balance against child molestation?
1 posted on 05/24/2007 8:43:37 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

Where is the father and other men in the community to take care of this guy?


2 posted on 05/24/2007 8:46:44 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

Ask the ACLU, I’m sure they made sure he could get away with this.

And I would have to agree, if I was a father of one of those children there I would make it my solemn vow to hunt this man down and eliminate him in the most painful and lengthy means possible.

Be sure, there would be no evidence left, and I would have a few rock solid alibis, namely the other parents ;)


3 posted on 05/24/2007 8:49:05 AM PDT by gjones77
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To: edcoil

There used to be funny Italian men in my neighborhood who would have visited him.


4 posted on 05/24/2007 8:50:01 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

Why is this pervert predator still loose?


5 posted on 05/24/2007 8:50:11 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: edcoil

I just went to www.zabasearch.com and typed in his name and state, and only 5 Jack McClellans came up. It wouldn’t be hard to track him down, I bet.


6 posted on 05/24/2007 8:51:16 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: edcoil
Where is the father and other men in the community to take care of this guy?

That's the problem. Through no fault divorce and a secularisy humanist society, too many kids are without a father or real family structure.
7 posted on 05/24/2007 8:54:15 AM PDT by nckerr ("The truth is bin Laden and his followers did not hijack Islam; they simply took it seriously.")
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To: gjones77

Turn it around. Take his picture and have posters made up saying? Have you seen this man? Put his phone number on the poster.


8 posted on 05/24/2007 8:56:10 AM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

“I think he needs to be put in his place, I think he needs to stop using children for his own selfish pleasures,”

I think he needs to be shot.


9 posted on 05/24/2007 8:57:09 AM PDT by Old Grumpy
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To: A_perfect_lady

You might want to make sure you’ve got the right guy before initiating drastic action.

That is, of course, the main moral issue with vigilantism.


10 posted on 05/24/2007 8:59:49 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (I didn't claw my way to the top of the food chain to be a vegetarian.)
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To: A_perfect_lady

You might want to make sure you’ve got the right guy before initiating drastic action.

That is, of course, the main moral issue with vigilantism.


11 posted on 05/24/2007 9:00:01 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (I didn't claw my way to the top of the food chain to be a vegetarian.)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
How does his first amendment rights balance against child molestation?

A lynch mob wouldn't take that into consideration. I'm not advocating for lynch mobs. I'm just sayin.

12 posted on 05/24/2007 9:00:48 AM PDT by SittinYonder (Ic ■Št gehate, ■Št ic heonon nelle fleon fotes trym, ac wille fur­or gan)
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To: Sherman Logan

Gee, do you think so? Gosh, I just think you should pop all five of them. /sarc


13 posted on 05/24/2007 9:01:17 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: edcoil
Where is the father and other men in the community to take care of this guy?

This guy needs to accidentally bump into a door at a police station, several times.

14 posted on 05/24/2007 9:03:54 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: RobbyS

http://www.jackmcclellan.com/

They’ve done it. This link takes you to the anti-jackmcclellan site. A link to his site is there, if you really want to turn your stomach and get your blood boiling.


15 posted on 05/24/2007 9:05:30 AM PDT by SittinYonder (Ic ■Št gehate, ■Št ic heonon nelle fleon fotes trym, ac wille fur­or gan)
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To: gjones77
Someone needs to get a set of nuts in that neighborhood?
16 posted on 05/24/2007 9:06:19 AM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (I buy gas for my SUV with the Carbon Offsets I sell on Ebay!)
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To: A_perfect_lady

Well that would be one way to make sure you did actually get the right guy.

Unless he’s not one of the five.


17 posted on 05/24/2007 9:06:40 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (I didn't claw my way to the top of the food chain to be a vegetarian.)
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To: A_perfect_lady
I love zabasearch, anywho and MSN whitepages reverse look up.
18 posted on 05/24/2007 9:07:37 AM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (I buy gas for my SUV with the Carbon Offsets I sell on Ebay!)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Washington State government is one of the most wackjob leftist types in the nation. State government there is run by radical leftist liberals who won’t prosecute drunk drivers or pedophiles just to name a couple of groups. After all, the 30 ft. high statue of Lenin in Fremont attests to their feelings for America. Although, Eastern
Washington is more conservative than liberal.


19 posted on 05/24/2007 9:09:42 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: A_perfect_lady
Are you Jack McClellans?

20 posted on 05/24/2007 9:10:26 AM PDT by Sensei Ern (http://www.myspace.com/reconcomedy - Ann Coulter is My Press Secretary)
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To: RobbyS
"Turn it around. Take his picture and have posters made up saying? Have you seen this man? Put his phone number on the poster."

That's not a bad idea. Make a poster with his name, picture, and QUOTE HIM on what he thinks about little girls, and post it around the neighborhood. This should also be protected free speech, as long as you stick to quoting him or mentioning convictions. Don't make up anything--he provides enough ammo anyway--and it should pass any slander/libel test.
21 posted on 05/24/2007 9:12:20 AM PDT by macmedic892 (I am serious. And don't call me Shirley.)
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To: Aquinasfan

Falling down four or five flights of stairs would work too.


22 posted on 05/24/2007 9:12:53 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (I didn't claw my way to the top of the food chain to be a vegetarian.)
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To: edcoil

I was thinking the same thing.


23 posted on 05/24/2007 9:13:01 AM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
The state senator is a brass-plated numbskull. The First Amendment does not give anyone the right to publish a photograph of a minor without the consent of the guardian of that minor -- and that's even before the libel/slander aspects of this creep's website, that he implies that the children shown have had, or are willing to have, sex with him and creeps like him.

The only thing dumber than a freshman Congressman is a state legislator who talks before he/she has thought.

Congressman Billybob

Latest article: "The Farmers Branch Absurdity"

24 posted on 05/24/2007 9:13:04 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Please visit www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
How can this man post a minor's picture on his site without the permission of her parents, if she did not send it to him, or post it on the web herself?

Heck, in Girl Scouts, we had to have written permission from the parents in order to take pictures of girls doing various activities, just in case those might later be used for news stories about the activity, or for advertising for the Girl Scouts.

25 posted on 05/24/2007 9:14:42 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: edcoil

Thing is, I figure local law enforcement would look the other way if something happened to this guy.


26 posted on 05/24/2007 9:16:20 AM PDT by jack_napier
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To: Congressman Billybob

Heh, GMTA. I posted my question before seeing your comments. Seems that this is a direct violation of privacy.


27 posted on 05/24/2007 9:17:21 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: edcoil

S. S. S.


28 posted on 05/24/2007 9:18:35 AM PDT by LIConFem (Thompson 2008. Lifetime ACU Rating: 86 -- Hunter 2008 (VP) Lifetime ACU Rating: 92)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

There is never a “lone gunman” around when you need one.


29 posted on 05/24/2007 9:20:14 AM PDT by GoldenPup
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To: Sherman Logan
You might want to make sure you’ve got the right guy before initiating drastic action.

That is, of course, the main moral issue with vigilantism.

From what I have...ahh...heard (back in the day), that is how it is done. When normally non-violent men feel compelled to apply extrajudicial justice, it is an excruciating deliberation. They are fully aware that no system will protect them and that one day they will stand naked before their maker and have to justify their actions. No jury will deliberate harder or face the moral questions more squarely than moral men who have chosed an avenue of questionable morality out of necessity.

30 posted on 05/24/2007 9:20:41 AM PDT by MARTIAL MONK
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To: edcoil
PMS + 9mm = Justifiability
31 posted on 05/24/2007 9:24:23 AM PDT by Falcon4.0
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To: MARTIAL MONK
You might want to make sure you’ve got the right guy before initiating drastic action. That is, of course, the main moral issue with vigilantism. From what I have...ahh...heard (back in the day), that is how it is done. When normally non-violent men feel compelled to apply extrajudicial justice, it is an excruciating deliberation. They are fully aware that no system will protect them and that one day they will stand naked before their maker and have to justify their actions. No jury will deliberate harder or face the moral questions more squarely than moral men who have chosed an avenue of questionable morality out of necessity. Or as I like to put it: "Change will happen when very good men are forced to do very bad things..."
32 posted on 05/24/2007 9:24:50 AM PDT by Maverick68
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To: A_perfect_lady; RobbyS

“I just went to www.zabasearch.com and typed in his name and state, and only 5 Jack McClellans came up. It wouldn’t be hard to track him down, I bet.”

DANGER, WILL ROBINSON!! The chances of getting the wrong man are very, VERY high in this case - in all likelihood, he has already done the same searches on himself that you have done, and he is making sure to cover his tracks. You’ll end up targeting someone innocent if you aren’t VERY careful!

The best way to hit this ******* is in the pocketbook. Put the word out that all web traffic to his seedy site is being tracked and investigated... then try to get someone in law enforcement to do just that...

maybe we could use his web site as a trap for law enforcement to purge our neighborhoods of this vermin.


33 posted on 05/24/2007 9:29:38 AM PDT by dandelion
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

First ammendment is not ABSOLUTE, yelling FIRE in a crowded building when there is none.. Willfully Inciting a Riot etc. I’d have to believe this guys web site clearly is covered by conspiracy laws.. he’s conspiring with unnamed coconspirators to commit felony acts.

DA, get to work.


34 posted on 05/24/2007 9:30:19 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: A_perfect_lady
Gee, do you think so? Gosh, I just think you should pop all five of them.

To be fair, I think there are people on FR who would consider doing just that to make sure they got the one they wanted. Nevertheless, you'd think it'd be illegal to assist people in committing crimes; that's what his website does. I'm surprised we don't already have a law against this...
35 posted on 05/24/2007 9:30:43 AM PDT by JamesP81 (Isaiah 10:1 - "Woe to those who enact evil statutes")
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To: SuziQ

I don’t get it either....


36 posted on 05/24/2007 9:33:29 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Sherman Logan
Sherman, I don't know why you have decided that making sure it's the right guy wouldn't be a priority for me if I ever decided to undertake vigilantism, but allow me to take this moment to reassure you that if I ever do decide to hike up my dress and kick in someone's door, I will remember your words of wisdom and pause and ask myself, "Is this the right guy?" before I swing my M14 around and go postal.

I hope you will be content with knowing that you have enlightened someone today. In fact, the next time I am faced with any dilemma, I will stop and ask myself the most obvious question I can possibly think of in your honor (re: Toaster doesn't work. Is it plugged in?)

37 posted on 05/24/2007 9:33:32 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

He gets away with photographing children without their knowledge or consent; and posting their pictures on websites while TV and newspapers must get a consent form signed by the parent or legal guardian before taking pictures of any child and posting them. Yet he considers it illegal if someone does the same thing to him. Here is a comment from his own website...

“Members of the media and other uninvited people on my property may be photographed and charged with trespassing. Members of the media and other people who follow me or my relatives may be photographed and charged under Washington’s felony stalking law.”

Can you believe it? According to this, it is illegal for anyone to follow or take pictures of this psychopath; while it is perfectly legal and protected for him to do the same thing to one/many of our children and then to post the pics for other pedophiles to view.

Laws need to be changed in every state to address and correct this hypocracy and protect our children!


38 posted on 05/24/2007 9:34:47 AM PDT by one of His mysterious ways
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
From Fox News:

McClellan says his purpose is to promote association, friendship and legal, consensual hugging and cuddling between men and pre-pubescent girls. He admitted to FOX News that his "age of attraction" is between 3 and 11 years old.

"I guess the main thing is I just think they're cute, a lot cuter than women. I admit there is kind of an erotic arousal there," McClellan said.

McClellan wants to bring pedophiles out of the closet and give them a way to get some relief, by going out and being around little girls. He suggests a number of places, such as plays at elementary schools, parks, swimming pools and libraries.

"I really think a lot of this pedophilia hysteria is overblown. I think there are a lot of people like me. They have the attraction but they're not going to do anything physical because of the laws. It just makes me happy to attend these events."

But he said while it's OK to look, it's not OK to touch, given the many state laws in place to protect children against that.

"I know it sounds kind of crazy, but there's kind of a code of ethics that these pedophiles have developed and what it is ... the contact has to be completely consensual, no coercion, if you're going to do it," McClellan said.

39 posted on 05/24/2007 9:37:01 AM PDT by jordan8
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To: dandelion

What’s needed is a hacker who can mess up his website ..... permanently.


40 posted on 05/24/2007 9:37:07 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.)
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To: one of His mysterious ways

Exactly!...It’s unbelievable to me. His rights as a pervert have more weight than a childs right to be protected from him?


41 posted on 05/24/2007 9:37:39 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: one of His mysterious ways
Can you believe it? According to this, it is illegal for anyone to follow or take pictures of this psychopath; while it is perfectly legal and protected for him to do the same thing to one/many of our children and then to post the pics for other pedophiles to view.

The way he gets away with it is the part about trespassing on his own private property, but he's taking his photos in public. Unfortunately, I think his general interpretation of the law is more or less accurate, but this doesn't deal with the fact that it's conspiracy to build a website to help people commit felonies. I don't know why he hasn't already been charged. You can't go around helping people do illegal things. Not to mention the whole thing about photographing minors. I thought that was illegal too.

Washington state needs to get its head out of its posterior and get to work.
42 posted on 05/24/2007 9:37:52 AM PDT by JamesP81 (Isaiah 10:1 - "Woe to those who enact evil statutes")
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

Hm...


43 posted on 05/24/2007 9:39:49 AM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
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To: JamesP81
I think there are people on FR who would consider doing just that to make sure they got the one they wanted. your commments are offensive
44 posted on 05/24/2007 9:41:21 AM PDT by tioga
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To: SuziQ

One would argue there is no expectation of privacy out in the public (malls, shopping areas, public park, etc). While his behavior and beliefs are abhorrent, one can walk into a mall and take pictures of anyone you wish.

Now, posting them online (or putting them in a magazine, newspaper, etc) should be protected, because you are essentially advertising the pictures then.

Just my .02 worth.

/note - yes, I’d be happy to see him have an accident if he threatened my children.


45 posted on 05/24/2007 9:42:24 AM PDT by Ro_Thunder ("Other than ending SLAVERY, FASCISM, NAZISM and COMMUNISM, war has never solved anything")
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To: Congressman Billybob
The state senator is a brass-plated numbskull. The First Amendment does not give anyone the right to publish a photograph of a minor without the consent of the guardian of that minor -- and that's even before the libel/slander aspects of this creep's website, that he implies that the children shown have had, or are willing to have, sex with him and creeps like him.

Right you are, C.B. Misappropriating and exploiting a person's image is a civil tort - there's no reason the legislature can't act in this area too.

46 posted on 05/24/2007 9:42:43 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: jordan8

In saner, less PC times, people like this sicko were lokced away and never heard from again.


47 posted on 05/24/2007 9:43:04 AM PDT by darkangel82 (Socialism is NOT an American value.)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

I would be shaking with anger if I was her mom!


48 posted on 05/24/2007 9:43:14 AM PDT by tioga
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To: JamesP81

....”Washington state needs to get its head out of its posterior and get to work”....It won’t happen anytime soon. the same idiots in government who allow this, stole the last election for governor from Dino Rossi(the republican) by recounting the votes in King County until that liberal HAG Gregoire won.


49 posted on 05/24/2007 9:45:01 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: gjones77

Yep. The ACLU is currently defending NAMBLA in a similiar case right now, up in Boston I believe.

Whats amusing is I once had a debate with a clown that claimed it was the website owner being defended by the ACLU, on first amendment grounds. Couldn’t help but think of that poster ‘I damn sure wouldn’t let YOU around my kids’ if I had any.

There is no cure for pedophilia, which is why this guy can’t stop doing this. Its a complusion.


50 posted on 05/24/2007 9:46:38 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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