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Woman outraged after daughter's picture is posted on pedophile web site
KOMO radio.com ^ | May 23,2007 | By Michelle Esteban

Posted on 05/24/2007 8:43:34 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway

"Stop, or else!"

That's the message from a local mom who is fed up with a self-proclaimed pedophile and his Web site that guides predators to young girls.

Jack McClellan admits he's a pedophile, whose full-time job is trolling for little girls. Once he finds them he puts that information on his site -- it's essentially a how-to guide for pedophiles.

"I'm mad, I'm mad somebody can invade our lives that way and it's okay, it's not okay!" says Sabrina, a concerned and determined Eastside mother.

Sabrina stopped Jack McClellan once, but he's back.

"The main thing -- I think they're cute, a lot cuter than women," McClellan said during a March interview.

Sabrina is determined to stop McClellan again. "I saw the site and the fear started welling up inside of me," she said.

What she saw was her own daughter's picture and personal details posted on McClellan's site. We won't use Sabrina's last name or her daughter's first name to protect the young girl's identity.

McClellan's site is a guide designed to help pedophiles find little girls from Bellingham to Tacoma. McClellan, Sabrina says, found her daughter at her school.

Even more disturbing to Sabrina -- she was with her daughter when Jack McClellan snapped the photographs. She was sitting about 50 yards away and had no idea McClellan was in the area, and no idea he was taking pictures of her daughter.

She warns parents to be vigilant everywhere and if strangers are lurking, ask questions. "I constantly am introducing myself to people I don't know, I tell them why I'm there and I ask 'why are you here?' "

She says challenge everyone, even school districts and their no-trespassing policies.

Now that McClellan's site is up again, Sabrina knows complaints aren't enough. She needs the law on her side.

State Senator Val Stevens says she was outraged when she learned McClellan's site was up and running again. She vowed in March when a Virginia Web provided pulled the plug on his site to keep him off-line.

"It's just a sicko that would want to use children in this manner," said Stevens.

The senator from the 39th District knows McClellan is not breaking any laws -- his first amendment rights allow him to do what he's doing.

So Stevens wants to change the law. She's drafting legislation for the next session. She says right now police officers are protected as Web sites can't post personal information about them.

"Why can't we do that for our children too?" asks Stevens. Her warning to McClellan: Stop or else.

"We're after you, guy, so help me!" warns Stevens.

"I think he needs to be put in his place, I think he needs to stop using children for his own selfish pleasures," says a determined Sabrina.

McClellan has not returned any calls for comment. His web site is now run by a Montreal-based web provider, and on the site McLellan says that because of "death threats" he won't make any public statements about his site.

Since McClellan is using a Canadian web provider, any Washington law could be toothless. Senator Stevens says she's aware of that and insists legislation has to start in our state - then she says she'll push for a federal law.

She's working with local child advocacy group Mother's Against Sexual Predators, who are just as determined as Sabrina.


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To: edcoil

“Where is the father and other men in the community to take care of this guy?”

It’s Seattle - they’re home, snuggling with their boyfriends.


51 posted on 05/24/2007 9:47:42 AM PDT by GovernmentIsTheProblem (Amnesty alone didn't kill the GOP - socialism did long ago. The stench you smell now is it's corpse.)
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To: A_perfect_lady

Glad to be of service. :)

Perhaps I should have included a sarcasm tag.


52 posted on 05/24/2007 9:51:39 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (I didn't claw my way to the top of the food chain to be a vegetarian.)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

Bump


53 posted on 05/24/2007 9:52:48 AM PDT by mtbrandon49
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To: JamesP81
You can't go around helping people do illegal things.

Sure you can. It's perfectly legal to publish books about how to run a pot-growing business, for instance.

54 posted on 05/24/2007 9:54:05 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (I didn't claw my way to the top of the food chain to be a vegetarian.)
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To: RobbyS

pervertedjustice.com


55 posted on 05/24/2007 9:54:45 AM PDT by gimme1ibertee ( Hillary...WHO?....Save theObama Fo'Yo' momma!.........RUNFREDRUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

If that were my daughter, this son of a bitch would be a greasy spot. I would litterally rip his balls off.

Pardon my language, but I am absolutely incredulous.


56 posted on 05/24/2007 9:54:45 AM PDT by T.Smith
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To: Badeye
There is no cure for pedophilia,

Sure there is, it's usually dispensed in .44 caliber doses.

57 posted on 05/24/2007 9:59:36 AM PDT by darkangel82 (Socialism is NOT an American value.)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

Somebody will dig him up and give him what he really needs-a frontal lobotomy via a ball-peen hammer,just for starters.


58 posted on 05/24/2007 10:00:10 AM PDT by gimme1ibertee ( Hillary...WHO?....Save theObama Fo'Yo' momma!.........RUNFREDRUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Sensei Ern

ping!


59 posted on 05/24/2007 10:00:46 AM PDT by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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To: jordan8
"I know it sounds kind of crazy, but there's kind of a code of ethics that these pedophiles have developed and what it is ... the contact has to be completely consensual, no coercion, if you're going to do it," McClellan said.

Sweet mercy, a child cannot consent. A child doesn't know. It is, and always will be coercion, McClellan, you sick freak.

60 posted on 05/24/2007 10:01:15 AM PDT by RikaStrom (The number one rule of the Kama Sutra is that you both be on the same page.../Exeter 051705)
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To: darkangel82

Thats not a cure, thats common sense for any parent.


61 posted on 05/24/2007 10:01:43 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: JamesP81

Would it be legal under that law then to take pictures of him IN PUBLIC (perhaps catching him taking his pictures of children) and pass them out to all area groups and events where children will be present? This could be a public service announcement for people who do not consent to having their child’s picture taken by him (or allowing their child to be used by him to promote his pedophilia) so they and their children can avoid it and him. His picture should be plastered on every local event’s website so parents can be on alert for him and others like him who are photographing our children without consent.
After all, if it is legal for him to take pictures of children in public without consent and post their pics and info, shouldn’t it be legal for parents to do the same thing to him if they catch him in public at an event where their child is?
There must be something under the law that he uses to continue and protect his sickening behavior that others can use to do the same thing to him. If not, the law needs to be changed. Any law that protects the predator and binds the victim is unacceptable! People, find out what your lawmakers are doing about this. Let them know that our children are more important to us than making a pedophile feel bad and hold them accountable too!


62 posted on 05/24/2007 10:03:03 AM PDT by one of His mysterious ways
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To: MARTIAL MONK
When normally non-violent men feel compelled to apply extrajudicial justice, it is an excruciating deliberation. They are fully aware that no system will protect them and that one day they will stand naked before their maker and have to justify their actions. No jury will deliberate harder or face the moral questions more squarely than moral men who have chosen an avenue of questionable morality out of necessity.

Stolen! (With your permission), for my FR "about" page, attribution to you, and a typo corrected, of course. I have never seen it put better.

63 posted on 05/24/2007 10:04:50 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: one of His mysterious ways

I think you’re right. Although, I always thought that it was illegal to photograph minors without permission.


64 posted on 05/24/2007 10:05:21 AM PDT by JamesP81 (Isaiah 10:1 - "Woe to those who enact evil statutes")
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

Wasn’t there a guy in Seattle that killed a couple of kid sex predators? He found their names and addresses on the government website that lists where these animals live.

Or am I thinking of another location?


65 posted on 05/24/2007 10:05:46 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici
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To: JamesP81

I thought so too...apparently it is only illegal for people that do not want to exploit our children to take pictures of them without consent.


66 posted on 05/24/2007 10:06:51 AM PDT by one of His mysterious ways
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
How does his first amendment rights balance against child molestation?

Posting a photo online is not molestation. Punish the wrong acts he commits, not every act committed by someone who has committed wrong acts in the past. Otherwise, you might as well throw out the entire Constitution.

Don't allow our appallingly poor politicians to start saying that anything that might scare someone should be tightly monitored, controlled, or forbidden.

67 posted on 05/24/2007 10:07:59 AM PDT by Teacher317
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

Interesting, we can restrict free speech before an election but cannot protect our most precious resource, our children. Convenient how the 1ST amendment works for some people.


68 posted on 05/24/2007 10:12:26 AM PDT by JayAr36 (No Party, just a Conservative.)
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To: A_perfect_lady
You don't need to go to Zaba search. Most if not all states have a sex offender registry on the web. Washington state lists just one McClellan in its database


69 posted on 05/24/2007 10:12:28 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici
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To: macmedic892

The genius’ in MA made it an offense carrying a two year sentence to do what you suggest.


70 posted on 05/24/2007 10:13:08 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Teacher317

—Don’t allow our appallingly poor politicians to start saying that anything that might scare someone should be tightly monitored, controlled, or forbidden.—

That is not the issue in this case. Pedophilia not only scares people but is ILLEGAL; and this guy not only promotes it but shows people how to get away with it (at least in its early stages). If that does not warrant tight monitoring, then I don’t know what does...


71 posted on 05/24/2007 10:15:41 AM PDT by one of His mysterious ways
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To: A_perfect_lady
Gee, do you think so? Gosh, I just think you should pop all five of them. /sarc

"Are you Sarah Connors?"

72 posted on 05/24/2007 10:16:04 AM PDT by LexBaird (PR releases are the Chinese dog food of political square meals.)
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To: Teacher317

Make no mistake, I’m all for stopping government intervention in almost any respect.

But these are children that this guy is posting pictures of, 3 - 11 year old children, the ones that should be protected from animals like this man.

So to tell you the truth, I don’t want to hear any libertarian arguments in this case, it’s illegal, immoral, and should carry the stiffest of jail sentences imaginable.

This guy is giving every perverted whack job pictures and locations of children, and do you really think none of them would try to get close, hurt, kidnap, or kill one of these children, if so you are truly naive my friend.


73 posted on 05/24/2007 10:19:28 AM PDT by gjones77
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To: massgopguy
There used to be funny Italian men in my neighborhood who would have visited him.

In Edgeworth? I'm shocked!
74 posted on 05/24/2007 10:25:35 AM PDT by HEY4QDEMS (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: one of His mysterious ways
"TV and newspapers must get a consent form signed by the parent or legal guardian before taking pictures of any child and posting them."

No, they don't.

Happened to us once, and the newspaper told me they don't need permission, as long as the subjects are in a public setting.

75 posted on 05/24/2007 10:26:19 AM PDT by Designer
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To: Teacher317

People talk so much about gateway drugs...how about gateway acts of pedophilia? Just as people that promote using drugs are monitored, so should this be.
People talk about the “warning signs” concerning acts of violence like the VT shooter. What could have been done to stop it? How can laws be changed to avoid it in the future and protect us? How can the red flags be monitored to avoid these acts?
We do these things to protect ourselves...now we need to protect our children from being used as gateways to more severe and brutal forms of pedophilia.
NO, not all abnormal or scary to some behaviors should be monitored by law, but THIS sort of behavior should be and with the right laws, can be.


76 posted on 05/24/2007 10:27:21 AM PDT by one of His mysterious ways
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

Mom needs to exercise her own constitutional rights and buy a gun. Then she should shoot this guy, drag him over to her house, then call the cops.


77 posted on 05/24/2007 10:31:11 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Teacher317
Posting a photo online is not molestation.

Posting a photo of a minor on a site specifically dedicated to directing pedophiles to where young girls can be found is definitely intimidation. There may not be a law against that, but it is certainly immoral.

This guy better be glad I'm not this girl's mother. He would be dead in such a way that the cops would have no choice but to believe he was killed breaking in to molest my daughter.

78 posted on 05/24/2007 10:35:07 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
This is really sick stuff. Here are a couple of lines from his website reviews of local events (these are not the worst, either):

Like many school performances, I wished this could have gone on longer, but it was a wonderful hour of GL entertainment that included several LGs [Little Girs?l whom I rated above-average on my 1-10 cuteness scale (one of them earned a bonus point for missing baby teeth). This is reportedly an annual event, and I'd definitely do it again!

[A skating event] Whatever your taste in LGs, they were here -- right down to some very young cuties who looked like they recently learned to walk.

79 posted on 05/24/2007 10:40:00 AM PDT by jordan8
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To: K4Harty
Someone needs to get a set of nuts in that neighborhood?

Fewer and fewer neighborhoods have the close cohesiveness for a unified response. With all this integration and diversification that's been forced down our throats the caring attitude about your neighbor has been replaced with I don't give a damn about "them".

80 posted on 05/24/2007 10:50:54 AM PDT by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
He turns my stomach. How revolting and vile can one human be?
81 posted on 05/24/2007 10:56:53 AM PDT by WasDougsLamb (What part of "ILLEGAL" don't you comprehend?!)
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To: Maverick68

Thanks for the new tagline!


82 posted on 05/24/2007 10:58:46 AM PDT by hunter112 ("Change will happen when very good men are forced to do very bad things...")
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
"I think he needs to be put in his place, I think he needs to stop using children for his own selfish pleasures," says a determined Sabrina.

I think he needs to be shot and then have his genitals cut off. Next, post pics of his dead, nude, emasculated body on his own website.
But that just my opinion.

83 posted on 05/24/2007 11:09:58 AM PDT by Ignatz (Did you know that before the internal combustion engine, there was no weather at all?)
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To: varon

Overall, I agree but my wife and I do a great job of communicating with our neighbors. New houses spring up on our street monthly and we have meet and greet BBq’s every few months. It has been great when someone needs a hand, everyone is willing to help. I think we are blessed.


84 posted on 05/24/2007 11:16:06 AM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (I buy gas for my SUV with the Carbon Offsets I sell on Ebay!)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
Jack McClellan admits he's a pedophile, whose full-time job is trolling for little girls. Once he finds them he puts that information on his site -- it's essentially a how-to guide for pedophiles.

SSS

85 posted on 05/24/2007 11:19:48 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Killing all of your enemies without mercy is the only sure way of sleeping soundly at night.)
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To: Old Grumpy

His place is in the ground.

I sometimes strongly believe that we should bring backt he concept of outlaw for child molesters. Tatoo their foreheads to let the world know they are fair game, outside the protection or sanctuary of the law. Declare that they are not allowed to live among civilization without risk to life or limb. Drive them into exile. OR we could just save a lot of time and quit releasing them from jail or letting them hide behind the ACLU skirts.


86 posted on 05/24/2007 11:21:17 AM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: one of His mysterious ways
>I>He gets away with photographing children without their knowledge or consent; and posting their pictures on websites while TV and newspapers must get a consent form signed by the parent or legal guardian before taking pictures of any child and posting them.

Newspapers ant TV stations use pictures of kids without releases all the time -- festivals in the park, first day of school, that kind of thing. They're generally careful to use wide shots and steer clear of identifiable pictures of individual kids. They do get releases of identifiable kids, especially if they interview them, but I'm not sure if that's required by law or is a widely-accepted ethical standard.

I looked at McClellan's site. It's profoundly creepy. What I did not see is what the story describes -- photographs of girls with or without personal information. I suspect McClellan consulted a lawyer and took those down. If the description in the story is accurate, then McClellan may have broken laws against invasion of privacy, possibly even stalking. And if anyone who read his site approached, harassed, or God forbid molested a young girl based on the information on his site, he could be on the hook for incitement or facilitation.

But in the absence of an actual crime, what I see on the site -- repeating that the content mentioned in the OP might have since been removed -- falls within first amendment territory. The best response would be to see to it that as many parents as possible know this creep's face, and post a gallery of pictures of him taking his pictures. And be ready to pounce if he posts any.

87 posted on 05/24/2007 11:23:36 AM PDT by ReignOfError (`)
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To: dandelion

The best way to hit this ******* is in the pocketbook. Put the word out that all web traffic to his seedy site is being tracked and investigated... then try to get someone in law enforcement to do just that...”

What website?


88 posted on 05/24/2007 11:30:00 AM PDT by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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To: jordan8

So it is ok to look but not touch. Too bad that looking will only intensify the desire to touch. I am going to do some real armchair psych here. Men’s brain thrive on the visual. Their sexual desires are stimulated and encouraged by the images they find appealing. Porn, strip clubs, gawking at bikinis does not serve as an alternate outlet for desire. They serve as a means of normalizing a guys fantasy and desire. In some cases this is harmless and even good. Such as a guy enjoying seeing his wife in victoria secret lingerie. But in the case of a pederast it is very harmful.

Pederast ( I refuse to use the word pedophile with its greek suffix for love) are sick, evil and a danger to society. Only their complete separation from children will ever keep our children safe.


89 posted on 05/24/2007 11:30:53 AM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: B4Ranch

What’s needed is a hacker who can mess up his website ..... permanently.”

What website?


90 posted on 05/24/2007 11:31:32 AM PDT by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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To: one of His mysterious ways
I thought so too...apparently it is only illegal for people that do not want to exploit our children to take pictures of them without consent.

It's not illegal to photograph anyone in a public place. There are restrictions on how you can *publish* the photos without a release from the model.

91 posted on 05/24/2007 11:32:18 AM PDT by ReignOfError (`)
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This monster should be arrested and thrown into the prison's general population where they will exact the punishment that he deserves.

92 posted on 05/24/2007 11:33:19 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

Ho-hum... guess we’ll have to wait till Greta is talking about girls from his website turning up missing.


93 posted on 05/24/2007 11:33:40 AM PDT by cyborg (Long Island Half Marathon finisher!)
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To: philetus

check your mail


94 posted on 05/24/2007 11:37:29 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

If the government won’t take care of freaks like this, you can bet that “somebody” will....


95 posted on 05/24/2007 11:50:49 AM PDT by Antoninus (P!ss off an environmentalist wacko . . . have more kids.)
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To: one of His mysterious ways
People talk so much about gateway drugs...how about gateway acts of pedophilia? Just as people that promote using drugs are monitored, so should this be.

What do you do, issue a plethysmograph to every man entering the park? Plenty of people like to watch children play in the park, not all of them parents, grandparents, aunts or uncles. For the vast majority of them, there's nothing sexual about this, and no threat.

That is clearly not true of Jack McClellan, who has a severe mental disorder; but that alone is not a crime. And I don't see any sane way to make illegal to watch children in the wrong state of mind. It would be likemakingit illegal to take pictures of someone else's house because you might be a burglar casing the joint -- sure, but you might also be taking a picture to show your realtor the kind of house you want to look at, or your landscaper how you'd like your yard to look, or you might just be an architecture buff.

96 posted on 05/24/2007 11:51:47 AM PDT by ReignOfError (`)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

FBI Seattle’s e-mail address is fbise@leo.gov.


97 posted on 05/24/2007 11:56:50 AM PDT by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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To: edcoil

“Where is the father and other men in the community to take care of this guy?”

That’s a damned good question.


98 posted on 05/24/2007 12:02:00 PM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (The Republican Party's continued idiocy, proves the TV Series, Lost In Space, was a documentary.)
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To: massgopguy
There used to be funny Italian men in my neighborhood who would have visited him.

"What do you mean funny? You mean the way I talk? Funny how? Like I'm a clown, I amuse you? How the f/k am I funny?"

99 posted on 05/24/2007 12:02:36 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

The whole problem with this country is that doing things like this man is doing is not an affirmative defense for killing him.

Fix that problem and a whole lot more will get fixed overnite.


100 posted on 05/24/2007 5:43:51 PM PDT by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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