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Bush is the Ring Leader of Plot to Grant Amnesty
American Chronicle ^ | May 26, 2007 | Tony Dolz

Posted on 05/27/2007 12:51:45 AM PDT by Politicalmom

On Monday, May 21 st the acrid air of a back room plot to deliver amnesty for up to 20 million illegal aliens on the eleventh hour leaked out the “Grand Bargain” nest at the Whitehouse and into the Senate Gallery for an unveiling followed by a rushed vote. Neither the dismaying secretiveness nor the slight-of-hand haste with which it was presented was designed to allow the majority of Senators to know the hidden elements of the amnesty bill much less to give the American public a chance to weigh in with opinions. The plotters, lead by Republicans Senator John Kyle, John McCain, Lindsey Graham and Saxby Chamblis, speaking to the body of the Senate vowed to muzzle amendments that would dilute the main trust of the bill: (1) to offer amnesty to 20 million illegal aliens and having accomplished that, (2) to increase the number of cheap foreign workers with increased legal immigration and guest worker schemes. These goals are designed to benefit transnational and domestic employers of illegal aliens some of whom stand out as generous political contributors to seemingly outstanding Senators.

On Tuesday the plotters blocked an amendment offered by North Dakota Democrat Sen. Byron Dorgan, Democrat of North Dakota who is a friend of the American worker and organized labor. Sen. Dorgan’s amendment would have removed 600,000 annual guest workers that the labor unions shout depress wages. The labor union’s concerns are well documented by research by Harvard University world renowned economist George Borjas and from U.S. Labor Department statistics that show that, for example, cheap foreign workers depressed the salaries of meat packers from approximately $19 per hour in the 1980’s to about $9 today. The labor unions rebuke South Carolina Republican Senator Lindsey Graham (up for re-election in November of 2008), who insists millions of cheap guest workers will not depress the wages of union members. Senator Graham holds the disingenuous view that the amnesty bill (SB 1348) does not threaten the American worker because the employer lobbyists (Essential Workers Coalition and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce) promise that the same (low) wage will be offered to all applicants in an over-saturated labor market. This is rather unrealistic because it would require the government to monitor compliance by the employers of 145 million workers. The unions point out, to the apparently naïve Sen. Graham, that monitoring 145 million workers is impossible and besides that there are so many loop holes on how job openings will be advertised that fudging with the system is a given. On the Hannity and Colmes TV program on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, Sen. Graham brushed off the union’s concerns. The labor unions pledge to continue fighting guest worker schemes and Senator Lindsey Graham and his co-conspirators. For an eye opening report from the United States Government Accountability Office (GOA is a Congressional agency entrusted with bipartisan economic impact studies) go to this link:

This report illustrates the impossibility of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) ever catching up with all the corruption and the backlog of immigration cases which currently are running about 7 years behind with the current case load. Just imagine if DHS had to keep track of millions more cases and keeping the employers of 145 million workers honest?

I had the opportunity to visit many Senator offices beginning on Monday May 21 st in order to poll them on calls their offices received regarding opposition to the amnesty bill. I was able to confirm what has been reported in the Washington Post and the Washington Times. The phones are overwhelming the senator’s staffs. Senator Diane Feinstein conceded that in three days her office had received 8000 callers urging a no vote on amnesty bill SB 1348. That works out to about one call about every three waking minutes. This level of grassroots opposition should have a chilling effect on those Senators who are facing re-election in 2008 and who are being forcefully tugged by the employers of illegal aliens and their lobbyist; the Essential Workers Alliance and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, to vote for the amnesty bill.

The polls have been very consistent for a year or more: Mr. Bush is abysmally unpopular and sadly the voters trust Congress and the core group of Senators behind the secret negotiations even less.

Almost to a Senator, all agree that Senator Ted Kennedy’s inspired 1986 Comprehensive Immigration Bill has made it highly unlikely that the current amnesty bill gain traction. Why? Because the 1986 immigration made three promises of which it only kept one – Amnesty.

The 1986 immigration bill (1) gave amnesty to 3 million illegal aliens (to “permanently” end illegal immigration); and (2) promised that our border would thereafter be secured and (3) that employers of illegal aliens would be severely prosecuted. The result was predictable: The government gave amnesty to 3 million law-breaking aliens but it neither secured the border nor enforced employer sanctions.

In order to pass with popular support the 2007 Amnesty Bill would require that the people trust that the senate will not lie nor sell their votes as many suspect they did on the 1986 amnesty bill.

On the basis of TRUST in GOVERNMENT alone, this 2007 amnesty bill does not have a prayer of a chance to fool the American people. Do Americans trust the government?

The Ring Leader of the secret maneuvers in the Senate (the Grand Bargain) is the free-fall unpopular strongman George W. Bush. Mr. Bush’s war-time ruling style is increasingly characterized by arrogance and arbitrariness in dealing with domestic issues.

The secret negotiations’ tyrannical tale-tale signs include (1) restricting details of the plan on a “need-to-know” basis, (2) demanding an immediate vote in the Senate without a fair opportunity to read and analyze the bill and (3) chocking amendments that threaten the “Grand Bargain”, such as the rejection of Senator’s Byron Dorgan’s amendment to scrap the guest worker scheme. These bruising tactics are best reserved for dealing with the enemy in war entanglements.

The highest law enforcement official in the land, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, has taken an oath to abide by the Constitution of the United States and enforce the law. The most critical responsibility of Alberto Gonzales, especially since the terror attack of 9/11, is to protect our borders. Several MILLION illegal aliens have entered our country illegally since Attorney General Alberto Gonzales took his oath of office in February of 2005. Any number of those clandestine illegal border crossers could or are terrorists according to a House Committee on Homeland Security, see the report here: (

The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) reports that “Other than Mexicans” (OTMs) known to originate from countries that harbor terrorist has steadily increased (see the numbers below). The chilling fact is that Alberto Gonzales has released these thousands of dangerous illegal aliens on their own recognizance – a sign of madness or worse a sign of how our government yields to the transnational and domestic illegal alien employers that today employ 1 in 5 workers in America! As you can expect, these illegal aliens benefiting from the government’s “catch and release” policy are fugitives at large and there are over 150,000 of them.

1. 30,147 OTMS apprehended in FY2003, 44,614 in FY2004, 165,178 in FY2005 and 108,025 in FY2006. The implication of double, triple or up to nine times the number who slipped through.

2. DHS has reported a 41% increase in apprehensions of Special Interest Aliens (aliens from countries such as Iran, Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Pakistan, Cuba, Brazil, Ecuador, China, Russia, Yemen, Albania, Yugoslavia and Afghanistan)

While we slept last night approximately 5000 violated our southern border as they did the night before and the night before that. Mr. Bush has complicated Attorney General Alberto Gonzales job by giving Gonzales two competing responsibilities; one as a law enforcer and another as a lobbyist for the Mr. Bush’s failed border security policy.

Michael Chertoff is the Secretary of Homeland Security. Chertoff controls a budget of $44.6 billion and has 185,500 tax-paid employees at this disposal to secure our borders. Mr. Chertoff has also been given two jobs by Mr. Bush. Chertoff is increasingly playing a public relations role to justify Mr. Bush’s open-borders, pro-amnesty, pro-guest worker schemes. This put Mr. Chertoff in the difficult position of both managing the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and at the same time given a role in putting a spin on why our borders have been surrendered to the control of drug cartels; traffickers in drugs, arms and humans. Why? In order to maintain the low level enforcement needed to keep a steady supply of cheap and docile illegal alien workers flowing to the meat packers, the carpet manufacturers, the hospitality industry, the restaurant owners associations, the construction industry and many other profiteers.

The secret negotiations for an amnesty bill excluded every senator except the handful that brokered the deal for the Whitehouse over a four months period. Essentially Mr. Bush kicked off his amnesty offensive immediately following the defeat of SB 2611, the amnesty bill that was defeated in 2006. Mr. Bush’s self concept does not allow him to accept the immense unpopularity of amnesty for foreigners who have jumped over the fence to get in front of the line – aliens who commit identity and tax fraud every day of their unlawful stay in the United States.

Whereas the small number of senators that were allowed in the secret negotiations game were few and some of them jumped off temporarily because they were facing election and the wrath of the voters, Alberto Gonzales and Michael Chertoff held fast and loyal to their boss, the strongman Mr. Bush.

By employing Gonzales and Chertoff as lobbyist for his amnesty plan, Mr. Bush has demolished the credibility of the two lawmen and added to the growing suspicion that Mr. Bush likes to surround himself with cheerfully agreeable appointees and to stonewall opposition to his unpopular projects.

A number of Federal Attorneys have recently felt the knive in the back for being less than cheerfully agreeable to the political demands of their jobs. All of them except the notorious Federal Attorney Johnny Sutton a long time acquaintance and the hammer that intimidates border patrol agents (i.e. Compean, Ramos) who are selected for prosecution by the Mexican government.

For five years we have waited for Mr. Bush to implement the recommendations of the 9/11 Commission and secure our borders. He has failed to do so or perhaps more accurately, he has refused to do so. When citizens have pointed out his failures he has called them vigilantes. When the House and Senate passed a bill authorizing the building of a 700 mile fence along the border, he signed the bill which made it the law of the land and yet he has refused to build the fence. Mr. Bush will not give up. When the House of Representatives refused to consider the Senate’s 2006 amnesty bill, he launched the plot and lead the choreography of a new amnesty bill from the Oval Office without losing a step.

I am a Cuban-born Hispanic legal immigrant and my wife is also a foreign-born immigrant. Many of our business associates and friends are legal immigrants. We have friends who dream of completing their legal admission to the United States as law-abiding immigrants. As true immigrants and law abiding people we DO NOT need amnesty or guest worker programs; only scofflaws and foreigners committing identity theft and identity and tax fraud need amnesty. Mr. Bush’s scheme granting the privilege to live and work in the United States indefinitely, whether with a path to citizenship or not is a slap on the face of true immigrants.

THE REPUBLICAN PARTY RANK AND FILE is mad as hell with Amnestistas.

According to reports from the Washington Times and the Washington Post the amnesty bill is dividing the Republican Party. Saturday, May 19 th, at GOP conventions the delegates booed Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina and Senator Saxby Chambliss of Georgia for their roles in plotting the amnesty bill.

A Number of Other Patriotic and labor Representatives Chime in Against Amnesty

The 2.7 million members of the American Legion, America’s oldest and largest veteran’s group went on record as opposing the amnesty bill. The American Federation of Labor has come out on record as opposing the guest worker provision of the amnesty bill. The 11,000 member National Border Patrol Council, representing the men and women who risk their lives to protect our borders and our lives have passed a resolution of NO CONFIDENCE against their political boss, Chief David Aguilar (who works for Attorney General Alberto Gonzales and Michael Chertoff, Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security who in turn work for Mr. Bush.

The opposition to the amnesty bill is big and furious and it is being felt from many quarters representing a diversity of interests and opinions.

Mr. Bush will not listen. He would rather go down in flames that change his mind. We need a plan. This is what I suggest. For the next two weeks, keep faxing, calling and visiting the Senator’s offices. Calling is the most important. Since the Republican National Committee (RNC) rubber stamp’s Mr. Bush’s wishes (and the President wishes Amnesty), it is imperative that you contribute generously to your favorite border security ONLY candidate; while at the same time DENY the Republican National Committee any contributions whatsoever. Some Republicans that feel betrayed beyond repair have suggested changing party affiliation to Independent. This last suggestion has its risks; you will have to be the judge.

Senator Ted Kennedy strategy for keeping the dead 2006 Amnesty Bill afloat in 2007 will sink the Republican Party in the treacherous political waters of the 2008 election. Deep divisions over immigration and bobbing support for the Iraq war punched the air out of Republican Party’s hope to survive the 2006 election with control of the House and the Senate. Jumping on Kennedy’s boat on amnesty will be the death of many a Republican seeking re-election while millions of illegal aliens and guest workers seeking a social services life-lines will get roped by the Democrats and in so doing Democrats will ensure that the Republican Party will never resurface as a majority party for decades into the future.

We Now Know Which Senators Want Amnesty. How and When did it Happen?

A very clever amendment introduced by Sen. David Vitter (R-LA) on Thursday, March 24 th, unmasked those Senators that have been playing both sides of the Amnesty charade. Sen. Vitter offered an amendment that would have stripped out all provisions to reward nearly all the 20 million illegal aliens with permanent legal status. The amendment sent the normally sedate and elderly Senators clumsily scrambling for cover. Senator Lamar Alexander tried his best to help his Republican colleagues dodge having to show their true color as Amnestistas by attacking the amendment, but to no avail. So here are the Senators that are now known to support Amnesty while feigning to oppose it.

If your state is on this list, you have your work cut out for you. Please do not let any of the Senators off the hook. They voted NO on the Vitter amendment. Go to and start calling them.

Alaska: Murkowski (R-AK), Nay Stevens (R-AK), Nay

Arizona: Kyl (R-AZ), Nay McCain (R-AZ), Nay

Arkansas: Lincoln (D-AR), Nay

California: Boxer (D-CA), Nay Feinstein (D-CA), Nay

Colorado: Yea Salazar (D-CO), Nay

Connecticut: Dodd (D-CT), Nay Lieberman (ID-CT), Nay

Delaware: Biden (D-DE), Nay Carper (D-DE), Nay

Florida: Martinez (R-FL), Nay Nelson (D-FL), Nay

Georgia: Chambliss (R-GA), Nay Isakson (R-GA), Nay

Hawaii: Akaka (D-HI), Nay Inouye (D-HI), Nay

Idaho: Craig (R-ID), Nay

Illinois: Durbin (D-IL), Nay Obama (D-IL), Nay

Indiana: Bayh (D-IN), Nay Lugar (R-IN), Nay

Iowa: Harkin (D-IA), Nay

Maine: Collins (R-ME), Nay Snowe (R-ME), Nay

Maryland: Cardin (D-MD), Nay Mikulski (D-MD), Nay

Massachusetts: Kennedy (D-MA), Nay Kerry (D-MA), Nay

Michigan: Levin (D-MI), Nay Stabenow (D-MI), Nay

Mi nnesota: Coleman (R-MN), Nay Klobuchar (D-MN), Nay

Mississippi: Lott (R-MS), Nay

Nebraska: Hagel (R-NB) Nay

Nevada: Ensign (R-NV), Nay Reid (D-NV), Nay

New Hampshire: Gregg (R-NH), Nay

New Jersey: Lautenberg (D-NJ), Nay Menendez (D-NJ), Nay

New Mexico: Bingaman (D-NM), Nay Domenici (R-NM), Nay

New York: Clinton (D-NY), Nay

North Carolina: Burr (R-NC), Nay

North Dakota: Conrad (D-ND), Nay

Ohio: Brown (D-OH), Nay Voinovich (R-OH), Nay

Oregon: Smith (R-OR), Nay Wyden (D-OR), Nay

Pennsylvania: Casey (D-PA), Nay Specter (R-PA), Nay

Rhode Island: Reed (D-RI), Nay Whitehouse (D-RI), Nay

South Carolina: Graham (R-SC), Nay

Texas: Cornyn (R-TX), Nay Hutchison (R-TX), Nay

Utah: Bennett (R-UT), Nay

Vermont: Leahy (D-VT), Nay Sanders (I-VT), Nay

Virginia: Warner (R-VA), Nay Webb (D-VA), Nay

Washington: Cantwell (D-WA), Nay Murray (D-WA), Nay

You can tell that many Senators believe that you represent a major bloc of voters because 3 of the Democrats who voted for the amnesty last year but voted against it today are up for re-election next year:DEMOCRAT HEROS

Senators Pryor (D-Ark.), Landrieu (D-La.), Baucus (D-Mont.).

WHAT CAN YOU DO? What Must You Do?

The most important action you can take is CALL these senators. Call every time there is an amendment for consideration. Since there will be many amendments considered daily you are justified in calling many, many times per day. It is VERY IMPORTANT that you know your City and Zip Code when you call. The absolute best place to find the right telephone number for the senators and the committees is here:

For more information on how to wage “citizenship” in defeating this amnesty bill, contact the following websites for information and tools.

The amnesty bill will be voted on Monday, June 4 th. Immediately after reading this article, get on the phone. Call, call and call again. Call on the weekend; call during office hours and outside of office hours. Call from your car, call from the commuter train, call from where you are on vacation. If the cell numbers are listed in then call the senators cell numbers. Call the staffers at the office and at their cell numbers. Call the committees where these senators serve. Call them at home. Call, Call and Call. We will not be able to UNDO amnesty. You have to stop it now.

When this is over, we will concentrate on rewarding those senators that put our sovereignty, the American worker and the tax payer first and we will work acidulously to defeat those senators that have plotted to push the amnesty bill.

TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; deafrino; deathofthewest; georgewbush; illegalaliens; invaders; treason
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To: Joe Boucher

” I agree. Guess we’ll both be visited by the secret service pretty soon. “

No Secret Service , but the mods got me . Was what I said so awful ?

21 posted on 05/27/2007 6:37:19 AM PDT by sushiman
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Like it or not, we are getting what we voted bad as this is, can you imagine how awful things would be with Algore or F’n Kerry in the Oval Office?

Tell me how it would be much different or worse than what we have today.

Only two or three Republicans out of our entire Congress and Senate actually represent the people these days. Bush Cabinet Cronies are globalist sycophants. The WOT has become a joke because our own borders are not secure. Are we really 'fighting them over there' or is our government playing a massive chess game with the Middle East? Our troops are being used as clay flesh pigeons, feeding the giant bomb-breathing mouth of the 'insurgency'.

I've begun pondering what it is that has gone so very wrong with our Republic and asked myself if someone like Abraham Lincoln could even be elected in this day and age. Could a 'middle class' individual win the presidency? No way. How many in Congress are what anyone could call 'middle class'? Money and media have changed everything.

Our 'representatives' no longer represent us; it has become obvious by deals like this one on amnesty that it makes no difference who you vote for anymore. It's all about reaching across the aisle and compromising principles. So I guess if Bush says Teddy Kennedy has my best interests at heart I'm supposed to believe it and take my nice little tax cut and let the bipartisan government worry about everything else. [/end rant]

22 posted on 05/27/2007 7:02:40 AM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: sushiman

Least they didn’t put you in time out.
I get put in time out when I say anything provocative.

23 posted on 05/27/2007 7:13:28 AM PDT by Joe Boucher
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To: arasina
Tell me how it would be much different or worse than what we have today.

Kerry would have already surrendered on the war on terror
Talk radio would have been offically shut down
Hate crimes legistaltion would be the law of the land, effectively outlawing Christianity
Tax cuts would have been resinded
Stock Market would have collapsed and unemployment would have dramatically risen due to the higher tax rate
Islam would be allowed to run unchecked and terrorism would be more rampent
Gay marrage would be legal in all 50 states
Illegals would have been given full amnesty the first 90 days of Kerry being sworn in, with no debate
No Roberts or Ailto on the SCOTUS

Don't get me wrong. I hate Bush for this pro Amnesty stance, but under Kerry, most of the crap we are mad about 3 years into Bush's presidency, would have been law in the first 90 days under Kerry.

24 posted on 05/27/2007 7:24:18 AM PDT by Bommer (Global Warming: The only warming phenomena that occurs in the Summer and ends in the Winter!)
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To: Bommer


25 posted on 05/27/2007 7:28:25 AM PDT by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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To: The_Macallan

Great home page.

26 posted on 05/27/2007 7:32:22 AM PDT by Do Be (The heart is smarter than the head.)
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To: Bommer
Good answers. But chaos is chaos however it comes about. We may have had it sooner with the Dims, true, but it is still lumbering along to become our new American reality. Can you measure misery by its political affiliation?
27 posted on 05/27/2007 7:33:58 AM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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His “position” is irrelevant. He VOWED to uphold the laws of the country and he did everything he could to sabotage any enforcement.

28 posted on 05/27/2007 7:42:23 AM PDT by Politicalmom ("ARREST ILLEGALS AND SEND THEM BACK WHERE THEY CAME FROM" Fred Thompson)
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To: arasina

I agree with your sense of frustration. However, Bush has at least paid some attention to border security, not much, but some. Algore and Kerry would not even give the subject a moments thought - at all...and the legislation they would support would most likely make Bush’s position seem more right then moderate. The Dims want vast waves if illegals in this country as a way to grow their voter rolls and increase their power. Bush see’s the immigration issue through the prism of a world economy, open markets, and an European Union-style here in the America’s - Especially with respect to North America and Central America. Every conservative republican should understand that all these illegals will NOT be voting republican....Bush understands that....unfortunately he’s willing to take that risk to, in his obvious view, improve the free market.

The difference in why the Dims support the immigration bill is a universe apart from why Bush does. For the DIM’s it’s all about a power grab, for Bush it’s a wrong headed attempt to keep our economy strong. The Dims don’t really care about what is happening to our nation as long as they can have their power. Bush does care about our country, he’s just taking an incredibly wrong approach on this issue and most other domestic issues with the noteable exception of his tax policies.

29 posted on 05/27/2007 7:51:33 AM PDT by GLH3IL (This so called 're-deployment' is really a vote catching program. General Patton - 1944)
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To: Politicalmom

Well, as long as we keep Teddy Kennedy from being a committee chair, we can stop this from happening.


30 posted on 05/27/2007 7:53:47 AM PDT by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
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He has always made it clear that he supports an open border/amnesty type of immigration

The choice was Gore or Kerry or Bush. That's why so many voted for Bush.

If Bush cannot govern beyond his personal views and feelings then he has no business taking on the mantle of President of the United States. You speak as if he were king.

We are great because we are (or were) a country of laws, not of men. If this is an idea you have never taken the time to wrap your mind around, you might take a few moments and consider what that means. It is the central idea that separates us from most of the countries and governments that are and have ever been in recorded history.

I too used to think Bush was a good man and a great president. I now think he is very dangerous to the future of my children and this country.

Reading your homepage, I suspect you are a very good man and I in no way wish to belittle you. You and I will probably not live to see all the destruction that Bush's personal views will have upon this great nation, but our children will.

If Bush's vision of the future, based upon his words and actions, are what you want for your children and grandchildren, then I understand your post.

If not, then may I suggest a little time reflecting on the long term effects of Bush's it's-not-amnesty plan.

It is impossible to be against amnesty and for Bush.

31 posted on 05/27/2007 7:59:07 AM PDT by Do Be (The heart is smarter than the head.)
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To: Politicalmom

....who has really worked to enforce immigration policy in the last 30 years? Carter? Yeah right. Reagan? Nope, he approved amnesty legislation written by The Swimmer. Bush Sr.? Nyet. Clinton? Um, not hardly. Dubya? He’s just following in a long line of POTUS’s that had done poorly when it comes to dealing with this issue.

If we are going to have any serious enforcement of our laws, we are going to have to elect people that will take the bull by the horns. Bush has never been strong on immigration law enforcement. He wasn’t as a governor in Texas, and he’s not now. When folks act outraged about Bush’s immigration views and actions (or lack thereof) I fail to understand why as he’s never been shy about what he hoped to do in that regard. Like it or not, the man does what he says he’s gonna do. I’m not any happier about it than you are, and the only way we are gonna checkmate him on this is via putting suffocating pressure on Congress - cause Bush isn’t going to chage his mind as long as he’s in office.

We do have an opportunity here though. Soon we’ll be nominating a new presidential candidate to represent the Reoublican Party in the 2008 presidential elections. The conservatives in the GOP must stand up....we must make the same push we made in the 1980’s and 1990’s to effect change through bringing conservative leadership to the presidency and the Congress. Clearly Paul, Rudy, and McLame are not up to that task...Romney, Hunter, and Newt or Fred Thompson(if they’ll get in the race) are credible conservatives that can bring forward our message and our vision of what we believe government should and should not be doing.

The Dims are VERY beatable....IF we stand up and debate them with the truth and providing a plan FOR a better America, not just how to grab power back. We need to do more of what Elzabeth did to Rosie recenty, stop playing nice and fair, and stand the heck up for what we believe is right!

32 posted on 05/27/2007 8:11:55 AM PDT by GLH3IL (This so called 're-deployment' is really a vote catching program. General Patton - 1944)
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To: Politicalmom

I cannot give Jorge a pass. It is not just amnesty. He gave Teddy Kennedy everything Kennedy wanted on No Child Left Behind and Prescription Drugs. And now he is in bed again with a drunk and Mary Jo’s manslaughterer on amnesty. Someone can make the argument that Kennedy has been more influential in significant legislation passed (and damage done to our beloved Republic) in six years with Jorge and the Republican majority, than he ever was in the eight years of Clinton administration. I voted for Bush twice because there was really no alternative, but I have contempt for this President because I never expected that vote to become a green light for Teddy Kennedy’s continued destruction of this country. The long term effect of Amnesty is to expand the social welfare state, but that expansion will destroy representative government and what is left the private free enterprise system. The public sector economy will overtake the private sector economy if illegals are legalized by amnesty.

33 posted on 05/27/2007 8:15:08 AM PDT by Biblebelter (I can't believe people still watch TV with the sound on.)
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Like it or not, we are getting what we voted for....

This is patently false. The American people, when they voted for president, did not vote the destruction of the American culture. In fact, the president is violating his oath of office and the US Constitution by pursuing his agenda of regionalization and corporatist-fascism via "free trade".
34 posted on 05/27/2007 8:19:14 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer (I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: Politicalmom


35 posted on 05/27/2007 8:27:54 AM PDT by Dov in Houston
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To: Do Be

“If Bush cannot govern beyond his personal views and feelings then he has no business taking on the mantle of President of the United States. You speak as if he were king.”

Bush ran on a clearly stated policy, and his views on what he saw as the right thing to do about immigration were always well known. When we elected him to office, we also elected his views and provided him with the authority to craft his views into government policy in concert with legislation from Congress.

Bush is not a king in anyway, he’s a two-term President of the United States who, despite his flaws and blemishes, has done an excellent job of establishing policies that has kept our economy very strong and our citizens safe from terrorism.

The immigration issue has been around longer than you and I have been alive, and that has been far far far too long. Bush’s polcies on this issue are unforunate, but they are not all that different from presidents before him. We can’t blame him for this problem....but we can hold the Republican Party and the Democrat Party accountable for getting this thing cleaned up....and the outrage we are seeing now across the politcan spectrum on this issue makes this the time to push for change that, otherwise will not happen - except for more liberal policies that we have suffered from for to long already.

Bush isns’t the problem here folks. The real problem is far too many Americans don’t know or care about this issue...Rush Limbaugh has it right - we must educate and inform if REAL change is to happen. Despite some opinions to the contrary - the American people still run the show...and we get what we elect for the most part. We have to find ways to wake up our nation to these critical issues we case in immigration, terrorism, etc. Immigration is just the symptom, the root cause of our problem lies in the apathy and ignorance of far too many of our fellow Americans.

36 posted on 05/27/2007 8:28:03 AM PDT by GLH3IL (This so called 're-deployment' is really a vote catching program. General Patton - 1944)
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To: Politicalmom
I hope in the primaries that many who run to replace these horrible people include in their positions the support of a measure that would END pensions etc of senators who vote for this.

There is absolutely nothing preventing these senators from selling us down the river - except their character and integrity. Oh what have we done electing these evil men?

37 posted on 05/27/2007 8:32:04 AM PDT by Principled
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To: hedgetrimmer

“The American people, when they voted for president, did not vote the destruction of the American culture.”

You are right. They did however, vote for a man whose views were well known and yet we voted for him anyway as the lesser of evils.

“In fact, the president is violating his oath of office and the US Constitution by pursuing his agenda of regionalization and corporatist-fascism via “free trade”.”

He’s doing no such thing. He’s wrong to be sure, but being wrong about something is NOT akin to violating his oath of office. Did you vote for Bush last election? I did. It was him or Kerry. Bush was by far the superior choice...and remains such today given our options at the time. The Republican Party as faltered badly as developing candidates with stong conservative credentials to be in position to win elections. The Republcans in congress got their butts kicked because of a number of reasons, but chief among ‘em is a failure to stand on conservaive principals and oppose those things that failed to measure up to what was right.

38 posted on 05/27/2007 8:39:08 AM PDT by GLH3IL (This so called 're-deployment' is really a vote catching program. General Patton - 1944)
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To: Biblebelter

Teddy and George Jr?

What does it say that the nation’s future is being determined by two alcoholics?

39 posted on 05/27/2007 9:03:59 AM PDT by RodgerD (Mexico-Merger is Treason. Those who bring it about are Traitors.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Politicalmom; All
Please look at what giving amnesty to as much as 20,000,000 illegal alien foreign nationals actually represents.

According to the 2000 census, 18,785,867 is the total populations combined of Wyoming, Dist. of Columbia, Vermont, Alaska, North Dakota, South Dakota, Delaware, Montana, Rhode Island, Hawaii, New Hampshire, Maine, Idaho, Nebraska, West Virginia, New Mexico and Nevada.

THINK about that.

40 posted on 05/27/2007 9:05:40 AM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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