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Bush is the Ring Leader of Plot to Grant Amnesty
American Chronicle ^ | May 26, 2007 | Tony Dolz

Posted on 05/27/2007 12:51:45 AM PDT by Politicalmom

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To: wardaddy

“have threads here with pics of me marching for Bush...over and over

i feel like so much used chump

i will be very wary of anyone next time”

No, you marched for him when he represented We The People. You marched for me and my family and I don’t know you, but you have more conviction (or perhaps more time GRIN) and Americans know a kindred brother/sister when they see one :) We should all march to what is good and right for our countrymen. We The People very often act benevolently towards the rest of the world we just won’t do for foolish back-door Mexican constituent ass kissing politicians. I liked Bush his first term but then it was like he became addicted to heroine or something. He should have stayed himself instead of trying to become daddy or Condi Rice.

121 posted on 05/29/2007 9:15:32 PM PDT by iThinkBig
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To: MrsEmmaPeel

“Good grief, you sound drunk.”

LOL that’s what I was thinking. First he says God Bless you to the delusional cop whom feels justice is a matter of what is practical not what the law is and then he acts like your from Big Momma’s house, wants to sleep with you and then says stick to the issues. Very wierd people coming out of the woodworks on this issue.

122 posted on 05/29/2007 9:18:40 PM PDT by iThinkBig
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To: Do Be
Instead, a great way to address the problem is to turn the heat up, way way up, on employers who hire illegals.

You may think it a great way but it is as unrealistic as booting out all the illegals.

You do realize that a majority of these employers you refer to are very large contributors to the campaign coffers of those elected officials who are pushing for this amnesty, don't you?

Why would they want to go after the corporations who are greasing them? That's not the way things work in Washington. They are not interested in what you and I have to say on the subject because there's no money in it. Follow the Benjamins.
The only thing they'll listen to is the sound of their ticket on the Gravy Train being threatened. That's why We The People must make a LOT of noise about this shafting were about to be given.

If we don't, we'll be getting the brown end of the stick again and it WILL hurt.

123 posted on 05/29/2007 9:22:06 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Don't question faith. Don't answer lies.)
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“WE are not liberals....we do not act like a pack of rabid wild dogs...keep your head, keep your common sense, and let’s work FOR something rather than trying to destroy.”

First may I suggest you lead your local community by doing what you are paid to do which is uphold the law? Come on now Moses, you are in no position to be leading the Israelites to the promised land as you talk about the law being a matter of convenience. Don’t ever come to my town, I partially moved here because I like and respect the cops.

124 posted on 05/29/2007 9:22:25 PM PDT by iThinkBig
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To: Do Be; GLH3IL

Sorry Doob. My post was meant for “GLH3IL”. I clicked on the wrong reply button.

125 posted on 05/29/2007 9:24:14 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Don't question faith. Don't answer lies.)
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To: iThinkBig
“Thanks for abusing your power to uphold the law at all costs and consider upholding it a matter of being practical or not practical”

There is no abuse of power in what I do. There is an utter failure to understand reality on your part. It is a practical impossibility to enforce all the laws all the time 100% every day of every week of every do so would bring about a police state more similar to the Soviet Union than the United States. I suppose it would be ok with you if, for the sake of law enforcement, we ignored the bill of rights and conducted searches outside of the scope as defined by the Supreme Court? I suppose that we could, for the sake of enforcement, go ahead and arrest people without probable cause, just because they might be doing something wrong - a hunch a guess...cause we don’t like how they look. The simple reality is, that sometimes verbal warnings can do as much to deal with a problem than a ticket or an arrest. Sometimes taking a kid home to his parents and discussing a problem works better than tossing them into the juvenile court system. The best solutions to problems often comes from working with the community and looking to find the core problems, using your logic we’d never be able to get past the symptoms most of the time. using your logic, compassion is not something that law enforcement can be allowed to have. Yet, the reality is that without compassion and respect for our fellow citizens we would be nothing more than Gestapo. Try as you might, you can not take decision making and discretion out of the law enforcement equation.

Using your logic, drug investigations units would never get to the high end dealers.

As for your DWI remark, if I catch someone drinking and driving they go to jail. I don’t drink and drive period. That is an issue of personal integrity.

It’s fine that you are done posting to me, you have your head in some dreamworld where the practical realities of life simply don’t intrude.

126 posted on 05/30/2007 5:21:46 AM PDT by GLH3IL (This so called 're-deployment' is really a vote catching program. General Patton - 1944)
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To: iThinkBig

Yup, and every day those officers in your town make decisions on who they are gonna ticket, who they are gonna arrest, and who they are gonna just warn and release....all of those things depend on the facts of each would be stunned at how often the police in your town ignore some things in order to deal with something else. It’s called officer discretion. As I said in anothe rpost, if you want to live in another Soviet Union, fine, go to live there - as for me...I’m pretty happy living here in the US.

Your hatred of one person is bliding you to find solutions. Bush is not going to be impeached, maybe he should be - maybe not, but reality is it’s not going to happen. The immigration bill IS before Congress. We, as a group of conservatives, can effect change through dealing with the solutions that are available to us...namely placing pressure on the House and Senate to ditch the amnesty bill. You want to moan and groan about Bush....heck you sound like a libut at the DU more than you do a conservative, but you refuse to address the problem....which isn’t Bush, it’s the legislation that he will sign if we don’t make every effort to stop it. I always prever practical solutions. It would appear you just like pi$$ing in to the wind and then moaning and griping cause you smell.

127 posted on 05/30/2007 5:34:49 AM PDT by GLH3IL (This so called 're-deployment' is really a vote catching program. General Patton - 1944)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

I don’t disagree with your assessment. Your solution is essentially the same as mine. We must make those in the Beltway grasp the concept that any legislation that allows amnesty will be legislation that ensures they will not be re-elected. We must make them see that reducing the carrot bringing illegals into this country - employment - isn’t available anymore. I recalled a phone call on Limbaugh’s Shopw discussing how a local community managed to do exactly that...something about a local tv station exposing a local employer for employing a bunch of illegals.

128 posted on 05/30/2007 5:40:58 AM PDT by GLH3IL (This so called 're-deployment' is really a vote catching program. General Patton - 1944)
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Nor do I disagree with yours. It's just that in this day and age, the way things work, it may not be possible to mount an entirely effective grassroots effort. Especially considering the fact that the very process of voting has been corrupted and subverted by the very people we need to expel from positions of power. Their efforts have been methodical and very well planned and executed.
Though we may be able to get these mental midgets to grasp the concept that supporting legislation such as this is a danger to their jobs, we may not be able to do anything about it.
Jerking their ticket and tossing them from the Gravy Train may need to be done in some other fashion.

...something about a local tv station exposing a local employer for employing a bunch of illegals.

For the record, the monies I speak of do not come from small potatoes employers in small towns around the country. I am referring to Cargill, Tyson, Hormel, Archer Daniels Midland (ADM), Monsanto and a host of other very large, very rich corporations that have no problem doing what is necessary to buy influence in Washington. It is a partnership made in Hell and is a very deeply ingrained part of the culture in our nation's capital. The task of breaking it is nothing short of monumental.

I agree with you that we are both on the same track but personally, I do not think that trying to get dirty politicians to turn on their masters who finance their campaigns and exorbitant lifestyles will return any satisfying result. It is a worthwhile effort to strike at these companies and their political lapdogs on the Hill but the power to excise the corruption, once exposed, must come from the other two branches of our government....or from the end of a pike.
Until that happens it will be Business As Usual.

129 posted on 05/30/2007 6:41:33 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Don't question faith. Don't answer lies.)
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To: iThinkBig
I appreciate your thoughtful comments.

He may not win it, but at least I gave it a shot when I emmigrate out of this country before Hillary allows it to be destroyed.

I love this country. Over the Memorial Day holiday, I returned to the small rural village cemetery where my father's family are buried. My great great grandfather is buried there and he was born in 1813. I know my ancestors voted for Lincoln and were always Republicans as am I. This country has been very good to me and I do have the luxury of emigrating if I choose. I found it interesting, that you mention Hillary. For me, it is not the prospect of a Hillary Presidency that would trigger my emigration, it is the current spectacle of Republican Senators such a Kyl getting in bed with Teddy Kennedy. It is the silence of Mitch McConnell because his wife is a cabinet member. It is that rumblings the Kay Bailey Hutchison has given in kowtowing to Jorge Bush. It is a leader like Lott who is no leader at all. I understand that Santiago, Chile has a nice climate and is a nice city to live in.

130 posted on 05/30/2007 8:00:37 AM PDT by Biblebelter (I can't believe people still watch TV with the sound on.)
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To: iThinkBig

Well said. I agree.

131 posted on 05/30/2007 8:29:05 PM PDT by So Circumstanced
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