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Recreational Boats Considered a Homeland Security Threat
firstcoastnews.com ^ | 05/28/07 | jackelyn barnard

Posted on 05/29/2007 6:47:28 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3

JACKSONVILLE, FL -- The Memorial Day holiday means it's a day on the water with the family.

Chuck Singleton does what he can to makes sure his kids are safe out here. The concern is who else is out there.

"You don't know where they come from," said Singleton. "You know, they could load up with a bomb or whatever and come right out here."

With thousands of boats on the waterways, the worry is the recreational boat is now a Homeland Security threat.

"Just the sheer numbers and ability to hide among recreational traffic is something that makes it difficult for me to find the threat and address it," said Admiral Thad Allen, Commandant of the U.S. Coast Guard.

A simple boat could be used as a weapon.

"Just the fuel, this has 85 gallons in this boat and that's bomb itself," said Singleton.

The head of the U.S. Coast Guard is throwing around a couple of ideas on how to keep you safe.

One would require licenses for all boaters in all states.

The other would call for transponders on recreational boats so authorities can track their location.

"Anything to improve our coast and help everybody out, we need to do it. We just have to get control over this. I think it would be a good idea," said Singleton.

Those against the licensing or the use of transponders believe the Coast Guard needs to set up a small perimeter, a safety zone, in areas of concern, so small boats can't get into certain areas.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: Florida; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: coastguard; homelandsecurity; recreationalboats
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To: daviddennis
The more I think, the sillier this gets - Al Queda buys (or steals) a used Cigarette boat, capable of travelling at 80mph. Leave the transponder in the boat and keep it on. When you get right next to the nuclear power plant, trigger the explosives. Nobody will know to stop you until the last few seconds and then it’s too late, transponder or no.

Heck buy or steal two boats and swap transponders - now that big fast boat is telling Homeland Security it's a 12' dingy with a half horsepower outboard

21 posted on 05/29/2007 7:20:24 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (The winnah ... and new heavyweight champion of The View: Elisabeth Haaaasellllllbeck!)
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To: F15Eagle
Someone suggested using off limit areas around critical sites. The FAA uses the same technique in routing aircraft around critical areas. For boats, wandering into a restricted area would bring the Coast Guard in a hurry. Just mark up the navigation maps with spots to avoid.
22 posted on 05/29/2007 7:21:22 AM PDT by ANGGAPO (LayteGulfBeachClub)
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To: american_ranger

I agree, Valin. This

“Anything to improve our coast and help everybody out, we need to do it. We just have to get control over this. I think it would be a good idea,” said Singleton.

represents the fuzzy thinking of too many Americans: register, regulate observe evry danged thing in life and we’ll all be safe. News item: THERE IS NO GUARANTEE OF SAFETY IN THE WORLD!

TC


23 posted on 05/29/2007 7:37:28 AM PDT by Pentagon Leatherneck
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To: F15Eagle
We have become very dependent on our vast infrastructure of power lines, water mains, gas lines and roadways. Having lived through hurricane Isabel in the Washington DC area, I learned what it must have been like to live like my great grandparents did when they imigratedhere in the late 1800’s. Luckily, the electricity and water came back on after 3 days. If hit hard enough, any of us could end up like the Katrina victims did and get thrown back into the 19th Century for longer than we care to be.
24 posted on 05/29/2007 7:38:10 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: taxcontrol
Small pleasure craft represent little risk as the explosives capacity is small and most reasonable targets are not reachable by boat. Yes you could blow up a bridge or perhaps even damage a building. But the greater threat is for a boat to be used as a means to transport a group of terrorists.

Hey buddy, we can't have logical thinkers here.

25 posted on 05/29/2007 7:39:33 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Deport all the Muslims who are overstaying their visas - that might be a start.


28 posted on 05/29/2007 7:43:55 AM PDT by ikka
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To: HangnJudge

Oh, don’t do that - I live in Oak Ridge, in a non-flood plain area, so I don’t think my insurance would cover it.


29 posted on 05/29/2007 7:54:24 AM PDT by Tennessee_Bob ("Those who "abjure" violence can only do so because others are committing violence on their behalf.")
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To: Dixie Yooper
Loose lips sink ships, house boats and can destroy hydro electric dams. It’s a good thing no one ever visits this website for ideas...

I also have thought of easy, cheap, methods terrorists could use to cause great damage to lives and property within the U.S.
I have not yet voiced them. But I am starting to wonder if I should. Having authorities possibly come up with contingency plans before an attack, or prevention of an actual attack, could save many lives.

30 posted on 05/29/2007 7:54:31 AM PDT by toast
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To: TornadoAlley3

Lets fix that small border problem first!


31 posted on 05/29/2007 7:55:16 AM PDT by JZelle
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To: HangnJudge

The Security risks of (moving vans, cube trucks,tractor trailers) recreational boats should not be taken lightly.


32 posted on 05/29/2007 7:57:49 AM PDT by listenhillary (Democrats are sacrificing civilization for political power)
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To: TornadoAlley3; Abram; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; Allosaurs_r_us; amchugh; ...
"The head of the U.S. Coast Guard is throwing around a couple of ideas on how to keep you safe. One would require licenses for all boaters in all states. The other would call for transponders on recreational boats so authorities can track their location."





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33 posted on 05/29/2007 7:59:02 AM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: Tennessee_Bob

Hi Tenmnessee Bob!

Good to here from you


34 posted on 05/29/2007 8:00:28 AM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: TornadoAlley3
We just have to get control over this. I think it would be a good idea," said Singleton

The key point.

35 posted on 05/29/2007 8:01:43 AM PDT by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: HangnJudge
It would easy enough to load the hull of our houseboat with fuel oil / urea mix, seal it, float it up to the dam, and detonate the bomb.

I'm no explosives expert but it seems to me that even if you could float that much fertilizer on a 58' houseboat (to say nothing of the sight of it lumbering up to the dam} the resulting explosion wouldn't damage the dam too much...unless it was built by beavers...:)

36 posted on 05/29/2007 8:05:05 AM PDT by Snardius
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To: TornadoAlley3
"You know, they could load up with a bomb or whatever and come right out here."

It would be easier to load up your car or truck and drive it into a traffic tunnel and blow it up. - tom

37 posted on 05/29/2007 8:08:12 AM PDT by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb Republicans - Capt. Tom)
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To: Capt. Tom

No one here has even mentioned the most deadly threat known to man....Snakes on a Plane....


38 posted on 05/29/2007 8:11:02 AM PDT by Snardius
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To: HangnJudge

I’m surprised that the Staten Island Ferry or a fully booked cruise ship leaving the harbor haven’t been taken out by a speed-boat bomb. There is no way to protect against it.


39 posted on 05/29/2007 8:11:55 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: toast

To me, the issue here isn’t one of concern for security. Like so many other phrases, such as “It’s for the children,” this is meant to mask the real purpose of the idea: more revenue.

I’m sure that this will continue to be floated as a “safety” and “Homeland Security” concern. What they really want is that $100 license fee that the State will charge you.

Anyone who complains is obviously not in favor of “safety” or “Homeland Security...”

Perhaps they’ll make us take our shoes off before we get in our boats?


40 posted on 05/29/2007 8:12:02 AM PDT by BrewingFrog (I brew, therefore I am!)
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