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Bush Takes On Opponents of Immigration Bill
New York Times ^ | May 30, 2007 | If you want to scare the American

Posted on 05/29/2007 8:34:56 PM PDT by BornInASmallTown

GLYNCO, Ga., May 29 — President Bush took on parts of his conservative base on Tuesday by accusing opponents of his proposed immigration measure of fear-mongering to defeat its passage in Congress. “If you want to scare the American people, what you say is the bill’s an amnesty bill,” Mr. Bush said at a training center for customs protection agents and other federal agents here in southeastern Georgia. “That’s empty political rhetoric trying to frighten our citizens.”

It was some of Mr. Bush’s toughest language as he started an intensified effort to build support for the compromise bill in the Senate.

The measure hews to Mr. Bush’s long-sought goal of a new system with a path to citizenship for 12 million illegal immigrants, a guest-worker program for noncitizens and tighter borders.

The compromise, which leaders of both parties struck almost two weeks ago, has met stiff resistance from the left and right of both parties. Liberals tend to oppose the section that would add emphasis on admitting immigrants with education and job skills and less on family reunification. Conservatives tend to dismiss the plan as an amnesty bill. It was the conservative opponents to whom Mr. Bush seemed to speak most forcefully here.

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KEYWORDS: amnesty; bush; corporateblackmail; deafrino; georgewbush; illegals; immigration
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1 posted on 05/29/2007 8:34:58 PM PDT by BornInASmallTown
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To: BornInASmallTown
On this issue, President Bush is my enemy.
I want to see him, and my two Senators, defeated.

Things sure have changed.
2 posted on 05/29/2007 8:37:05 PM PDT by elizabetty (Perpetual Candidate using campaign donations for your salary - Its a good gig if you can get it.)
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To: elizabetty

Its horrible but if I knew Bush was going to go this far left I would never have voted for the man. This bill could destroy this country.


3 posted on 05/29/2007 8:38:13 PM PDT by sentis1
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To: BornInASmallTown
“If you want to scare the American people, what you say is the bill’s an amnesty bill,” Mr. Bush said at a training center for customs protection agents and other federal agents here in southeastern Georgia. “That’s empty political rhetoric trying to frighten our citizens.”

Or, you could create a Department of Homeland Security and not secure our borders nor enforce immigrations laws on the books.

And continue to have 12M unknown ILLEGAL aliens living in our country in a time of "war," 5.5 years after the worst domestic attack in our country's history.

Empty political rhetoric, Mr. President??

4 posted on 05/29/2007 8:41:03 PM PDT by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: BornInASmallTown

“Mr Bush’s toughest language...” One tough dude. Ouch! Impressive. Keep up the LIES little Bush!


5 posted on 05/29/2007 8:41:26 PM PDT by ca centered (should I dye my mustache black?)
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To: BornInASmallTown
“If you want to scare the American people, what you say is the bill’s an amnesty bill,”

Sorry Dubya, you're deadwrong, its amnesty. And telling Americans the truth is not a scare tactic either.

6 posted on 05/29/2007 8:42:08 PM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: BornInASmallTown
Campaign Finance Reform is unconstitutional but Bush signed it anyway. Now he's says this is not amnesty? Uh huh....

Big disappointment Bush has been.

7 posted on 05/29/2007 8:42:18 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (I believe that's my stapler....)
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To: BornInASmallTown
“That’s empty political rhetoric trying to frighten our citizens.”

What scares our citizens, Mr. President, is scamnesty. And that's the simple truth.

8 posted on 05/29/2007 8:43:03 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Grumble, grumble.)
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To: BornInASmallTown

I wish the dems would bring impeachment and be done with him. I want a president Cheney! Surely he wouldn’t support the giveaway, aka amnesty.


9 posted on 05/29/2007 8:44:20 PM PDT by KoRn (Just Say NO ....To Liberal Republicans - FRED THOMPSON FOR PRESIDENT!)
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To: BornInASmallTown

Bush is destroying the Republican party.....And to have anything to do with Kennedy makes it even worse.


10 posted on 05/29/2007 8:44:48 PM PDT by ustanker (Secure the border!)
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To: BornInASmallTown

I honestly don’t know who to trust anymore.


11 posted on 05/29/2007 8:46:21 PM PDT by Old Sarge (I'm Going To Disney World!)
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To: BornInASmallTown

Why do I keep hearing that clip of Al Gore shouting, “HE BETRAYED OUR TRUST!!!” :*( :*( :*(

I’m so disappointed in my president. :*(


12 posted on 05/29/2007 8:49:44 PM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --Soccer Mom, Bible Thumper and Proud to be an American! RUN, FRED, RUN!!!)
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To: KoRn

Not a bad idea.


13 posted on 05/29/2007 8:55:07 PM PDT by Plains Drifter (I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy it!!!)
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To: BornInASmallTown

“If you want to scare the American people, what you say is the bill’s an amnesty bill,” Mr. Bush said at a training center for customs protection agents and other federal agents here in southeastern Georgia. “That’s empty political rhetoric trying to frighten our citizens.”
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Oh boy, this is rich. Sorry Mr. President, but your politics SUCK. This is a tactic of a desperate, legacy building, elitist, pro-illegal, open border, sovernignty busting, ignoring the will of the American people, SELL OUT OF THE AMERICAN CITIZEN. And it is pathetic. And it is going to ruin our country and cause problems beyond belief that will make the opening of Pandora’s box seem like child’s play.

This bill is a disaster, a travesty and clearly AGAINST THE WILL OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. And worse yet, it is NOT A SOLUTION to the problem of illegal immigration.


14 posted on 05/29/2007 8:55:14 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: BornInASmallTown

But this is from the NY Times! < /Bushbots >


15 posted on 05/29/2007 8:55:18 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: BornInASmallTown

I cannot remember the last time I was so disappointed in anyone.


16 posted on 05/29/2007 8:57:20 PM PDT by HonestConservative (<just a racist xenophobe Christian radical homophobe with a dream >)
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To: BornInASmallTown

Bush makes this happen and it will be the death of the republican party.

3 out of every 4 immigrants votes democrat for at least 1 generation. Bush is completely deluded if he believes they will vote republican just because he pushes this legislation.

Easily 40 million immigrants will end up in the USA within a decade after all the extended family and children arrive with them once the first foot is in the door.

The entire country will have the same voting demographic as California.


17 posted on 05/29/2007 8:58:25 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: Old Sarge

Trust youself. Don’t trust federal government politicians.


18 posted on 05/29/2007 8:58:27 PM PDT by ca centered (should I dye my mustache black?)
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To: BornInASmallTown
“If you want to scare the American people, what you say is the bill’s an amnesty bill,”

Yeah, that's right, and it IS amnesty and that's what's scaring the heck out of Americans!

19 posted on 05/29/2007 8:59:06 PM PDT by NRA2BFree ("The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves!")
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To: BornInASmallTown

Under Clinton, we redefined the word “is”.

Under Bush, we’re being forced to redefine the word “amnesty”.


20 posted on 05/29/2007 8:59:24 PM PDT by umgud ("When seconds count, the police are just 10 minutes away!")
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To: BornInASmallTown

Previously when I disagreed with GWB’s policies, I sought comfort in thinking about our choices given us at the polls.

Guess what? It doesn’t work anymore.

I’m just about convinced that W is somehow a part of sinister conspiracy to bring about a “new world order”.

I’m missing a dot or two in the middle to connect them, but as far as I can tell it’s the only sense I can make out of it all. Most convincingly being the fact that especially after 9/11 our borders remain wide open and his complete disregard of the will of the people, much less his base.

George, on this subject you have LOST ALL CREDIBILITY.


21 posted on 05/29/2007 8:59:26 PM PDT by diverteach
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To: BornInASmallTown

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1837121/posts
Last Stand for American Sovereignty


22 posted on 05/29/2007 8:59:34 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: BornInASmallTown
“If you want to scare the American people, what you say is the bill’s an amnesty bill,” Mr. Bush said at a training center for customs protection agents and other federal agents here in southeastern Georgia. “That’s empty political rhetoric trying to frighten our citizens.”

Does this bill: a) require illegal aliens participate by putting in significant penalties or at least funding a massive rampup of enforcement agents to deport illegals? b) Provide for any securing of the border to prevent the 'need' for yet another amnesty in 10 years, c) address any of the implied problems with the Reagan amnesty which sixty percent of illegals in the country that qualified for it but still did not participate?

No? Then it's an amnesty bill full of empty political rhetoric.

23 posted on 05/29/2007 9:01:06 PM PDT by kingu (No, I don't use sarcasm tags - it confuses people.)
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To: BornInASmallTown
Hey Jorge, BITE ME!

I voted for you twice, talked to others about voting for you too, but you've screwed the pooch on this one. You flew jets.... You've done augured in on this one....

...wreckage is scattered everywhere... or will be if this abomination is passed. Why is it that it seems to me that you don't care?

24 posted on 05/29/2007 9:03:01 PM PDT by AFreeBird (Will NOT vote for Rudy. <--- notice the period)
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To: BornInASmallTown
The President is not and never was a conservative. To the extent he has attempted to convey that he was, he was conveying a falsehood.

Moreover, he is not a conservative because he is not a man of integrity.

He is also not most of what the liberals and leftists call him.

Conservatives make the absurd mistake of judging this man by his enemies.

In that respect, conservatives are being played, and have been played, by both the President and his enemies.

25 posted on 05/29/2007 9:03:08 PM PDT by Urbane_Guerilla
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To: BornInASmallTown
It pains me to say this; President Bush has jumped the shark.
26 posted on 05/29/2007 9:06:20 PM PDT by Timbo64
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To: Proud_USA_Republican

Not to mention that AFFIRMATIVE ACTION will make sure THEY are first in line for every education grant, job, etc.....sheesh....this is crazy.


27 posted on 05/29/2007 9:06:45 PM PDT by goodnesswins (We need to cure Academentia)
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To: BornInASmallTown
BTW ... will the nasty people who were so mean-spirited in their defense of the President, now apologize to those who were not taken in by his insulting, absurd, poker-playing gambits to bluff conservatives?
28 posted on 05/29/2007 9:08:07 PM PDT by Urbane_Guerilla
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To: BornInASmallTown

I heard him on the radio, today, saying these things. I wish he would speak so well about defending his other policies that I agree with. He didn’t sound at all bad as far as articulation today, although I disagreed with what he was saying today.


29 posted on 05/29/2007 9:08:29 PM PDT by BKerr
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To: Timbo64

Maybe he has gone off the wagon?


30 posted on 05/29/2007 9:09:13 PM PDT by Plains Drifter (I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy it!!!)
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To: BornInASmallTown
This article was surprising in its even-handed treatment of Dubya...

And when Dubya gets a fair shake from Sulzberger and Co., something is terribly, terribly wrong. Tells me a lot about this bill.

31 posted on 05/29/2007 9:09:29 PM PDT by timpad (The Wizard Tim - Keeper of the Holy Hand Grenade, Finder of Obscurata)
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To: BornInASmallTown

cross linking

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1841739/posts
Bush Takes On Opponents of Immigration Bill


32 posted on 05/29/2007 9:09:30 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Extremely Extreme Extremist wrote:

But this is from the NY Times! < /Bushbots >


Same story from CBS News (May. 29, 2007), same location (Glynco, GA):

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/05/29/ap/politics/main2865273.shtml

(AP) President Bush attacked opponents of an immigration deal Tuesday, suggesting they “don’t want to do what’s right for America.”

“The fundamental question is, will elected officials have the courage necessary to put a comprehensive immigration plan in place,” Bush said against a backdrop of a huge American flag.

He described his proposal _ which has been agreed to by a bipartisan group of senators _ as one that “makes it more likely we can enforce our border _ and at the same time uphold the great immigrant tradition of the United States of America.”


33 posted on 05/29/2007 9:10:20 PM PDT by BornInASmallTown
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To: HonestConservative

He’s arrogantly strongheaded on destroying the Republican party. I can think of no other so committed.

There’s no way of looking at it, but transfering the failed political cultures of latin america into the atmosphere of America.

Immigration is suppose to work for us (in moderation), but it’s not made to replace one culture with another. Anyone deluded enough not to think we’ll become like latin america, is drinking the kool-aid extra thick.

This is one of the reasons I could not vote for Bush in 2000. Now he has the eye on the price, and no amount of judges will replace the death of a party.


34 posted on 05/29/2007 9:11:22 PM PDT by Rick_Michael (Fred Thompson)
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To: BornInASmallTown

To Bush:

On illegal immigration, you don’t want to do what’s right for America!


35 posted on 05/29/2007 9:12:37 PM PDT by Rick_Michael (Fred Thompson)
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To: ustanker

36 posted on 05/29/2007 9:12:46 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Urbane_Guerilla

We have come the point where those in DC fear being called a “bigot” more than a “traitor”.


37 posted on 05/29/2007 9:13:25 PM PDT by woody9
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To: BornInASmallTown
"If you want to scare the American people, what you say is the bill’s an amnesty bill... That’s empty political rhetoric trying to frighten our citizens."

I disagree, Mr. President. It is called honesty.

38 posted on 05/29/2007 9:15:56 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: BornInASmallTown

You suck, George. I’m sorry I voted for you.


39 posted on 05/29/2007 9:17:42 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: sentis1
This bill could destroy this country

Correction: This bill WILL destroy this country.

40 posted on 05/29/2007 9:26:55 PM PDT by KittyKares
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To: Diogenesis

That picture is hard to look at, realizing that it represents our party.

And it didn’t have to be this way.


41 posted on 05/29/2007 9:28:51 PM PDT by KittyKares
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To: Rick_Michael

“He described his proposal _ which has been agreed to by a bipartisan group of senators _ as one that “makes it more likely we can enforce our border _ and at the same time uphold the great immigrant tradition of the United States of America.”

According to Ed Meese and the Heritage Foundation, there is nothing relative to securing the border, in this bill that has not already been approved; nothing new is in it.

You can enforce the border now, Gorge, you just choose not to.


42 posted on 05/29/2007 9:30:08 PM PDT by HonestConservative (<just a racist xenophobe Christian radical homophobe with a dream >)
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To: BornInASmallTown
President Bush can speak with all the force in his body. I don’t care. This shamnesty bill is selling our country down the river. We will achieve third world status within 15 years if this traitorous POS become law.
43 posted on 05/29/2007 9:30:29 PM PDT by upchuck (Who will support Fred Thompson? Anyone who enjoys a dose of common sense not wrapped in doublespeak.)
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To: Old Sarge

Ron Paul :)
Does anyone really believe that Homeland Security is about protecting our borders?!


44 posted on 05/29/2007 9:30:53 PM PDT by mazza
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To: BornInASmallTown

god.....his last day in office CANT come any sooner. I really think the stress has driven him mad


45 posted on 05/29/2007 9:32:05 PM PDT by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans
Having long supported the President, he should resign rather than push this insane bill.

President Cheney in 2007
Vice President Hunter in 2007


46 posted on 05/29/2007 9:42:03 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Diogenesis

Thanks for making me smile. From your lips to God’s ears. It would be a good thing for our country. Our leaders are hell bent on destroying our beloved Republic. Somehow this bill must be defeated.


47 posted on 05/29/2007 10:14:31 PM PDT by sand88 (q)
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To: BornInASmallTown
Bush Takes On Opponents of Immigration Bill
He didn't take anyone on, he flat out insulted every American citizen that cares about this country.
48 posted on 05/29/2007 10:53:12 PM PDT by lewislynn
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To: MNJohnnie
< /Bushbots >

I think you're being paged.

49 posted on 05/30/2007 12:51:48 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Peace Begins in the Womb)
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To: BornInASmallTown

Bush has dishonored the office of the President by refusing to adequately enforce the immigration and border control laws for the past 6+ years.

He swore to uphold the Constitution and defend the United States against enemies foreign and domestic. He has violated that oath.

That’s enough to qualify for impeachment. If the Dims started impeachment, I would not defend him anywhere.


50 posted on 05/30/2007 4:17:58 AM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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