Thompson In - Yes!

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[gridlock]

No, not with "conservatives" like you and gridlock and others digging around in his garbage and propagating the sleaze bag innuendo from Terry Lenzner's IGI smear operations of almost 10 years ago, on the Clinton/DNC/Ickes dime. With "conservatives" like you, who needs enemies?

The only "digging" I have done is into transcripts of Newt Gingrich's own public statements. I agree with you that sleazy innuendo is no reason to oppose Gingrich. They do factor into his electability, however. But that is a question for another day.

I am much more interested in his statements.

To quote from your post:

Gingrich is a pol. One of his many interests is health care. Hitlery is the purported health care "expert" among the Rats. Therefore Gingrich made an accommodation to her, in order to advance his own agenda.

I agree with you. However, what you see as a strength, I see as a fatal flaw.

Gingrich made an "accomodation" with Kerry in order to advance the Human-Caused Global Warming debate from the arcane areas of science into the meat-and-potatoes of public policy. Unfortunately, in making this accomodation, he completely gave away the game. Inhofe is fighting this battle on the correct field. Once you give in on the supposed "science", the battle is lost.

This is a pattern with Newt Gingrich. He always counts on his brilliance (and he is brilliant, I will agree) to pull himself out of the fire. But he goes too far and gives away too much.

[gridlock]

BTW, if you would like to apologize for accusing me of dumpster diving with Terry Lenzner and IGI, I would not hold it against you.

[Vaquero]

No, not with "conservatives" like you and gridlock and others digging around in his garbage and propagating the sleaze bag innuendo from Terry Lenzner's IGI smear operations of almost 10 years ago,

First of all, I would vote for Newt in the general election if he, by some miracle of cosmic proportions, he won the Republican nod. I would vote for him over a Giuliani any day.

I do resent your caustic accusations of my intent or conservative affiliation. I totally dismiss your smarmy superior attitude regarding what you see as me digging myself deeper into some sort of hole. just saying it doesn't make it so. Newt is a burn victim. he has been burned by the left it is true, but in some cases he lit the matches himself.

Yes he was the great conservative leader of the nineties. Now he is kissing up to both sides of the fence in order to make people like him again. It is a failed strategy.

[gridlock]

Angkor... Come out and plaaaay-yaaaa!

[angkor]

Don’t know what that pic and your comment refer to.

I’m watching the debate in the entirety right now. Not one of the 2 minute soundbite clips posted aroud the Internet, but the whole thing start to finish.

So far, Kerry (who spoke first) went for 20 minutes with dire predictions based on debatable metrics.

Now 5 minutes into Newt’s talk, and all he’s discussed so far is the utter failure of “regulatory and litigation solutions” to enviromental issues.

Not a word in support of human-caused global warming yet. Not even a hint of it.

[angkor]

BTW, if you would like to apologize for accusing me of dumpster diving with Terry Lenzner and IGI

Yes, well I conflated your comments with those who assess Newt on the basis of his personal and private marital issues, and who propagate the sleazy fictions of the left.

On review I see that you made no such comments and I apologize for asserting that you did. My mistake.

[angkor]

Now he is kissing up to both sides of the fence in order to make people like him again.

Get a grip.

Civility is not "kissing up."

I assert that Newt's personal and private life is none of your business, and furthermore that his current emphasis on civil, rational debate and perhaps even on "accomodating" Rat views on an issue (e.g. Hitlery and health care) is not whimpy, or "kissing up" or a "tryst" or anything other than what it appears to be.

Having said that, do you have any actual points of difference with his political views? Let's see how much of a conservative you are, when called to address conservative policies and principles, rather than personal attributes.

Ball's in your court.

[gridlock]

If you want to look at the link I provided, it corresponds to the transcripted excerpt. The link goes to thinkprogress.com, though, so you may want to decontaminate after viewing.

The picture is a reference to a really bad movie The Warriors from the '70s. I guess I'm dating myself (which is good, because nobody else will!)

And thanks for acknowledging that I will not swim in the same scummy pond as Terry Lenzner.

[Vaquero]

I assert that Newt's personal and private life is none of your business.

but your assertations mean diddly squat....and thats my 'ball is in my court' moment...and it is has wasted more time than you're worth replying to...ciao, and respond if you will...this is my last post

[TAdams8591]

"He later showed that he just can't put his ego aside to put our country first. He is very intelligent but flawed. I think he tries to "out-Clinton" BJ."

I think the above is very true. Even were it not, his negatives are way to high, and he is just NOT likeable enough to win the presidency.