Skip to comments.TB Patient Apologizes For Causing Scare
Posted on 06/01/2007 7:17:20 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3
The tuberculosis patient who sparked an uproar over his decision to fly against medical advice said he's "very sorry" for the pain he has caused.
But Andrew Speaker said he didn't think he was contagious and no one ever said he would be putting people at risk.
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Apologize vaguely for PR purposes, but be careful to admit no wrongdoing of any kind.
Its a good thing this selfish crud is a lawyer, he’s going to spend his life in court.
The sign says ....
And why does SHE wear the mask. Lawyer privilege.
she also can’t be forced to testify about conversation that they had, she can testify to what he did, but if the “marital privilege” exists in GA, wifey can’t talk
Now ... let’s address all of this hysteria over the TB Guy. It turns out that he’s an attorney. A personal injury attorney, no less. His name is Andrew Speaker.
Everyone seems to be in a lather over the idea that he endangered an entire plane load of people by coming back to the United States on a Czech airliner.
Methinks we’re approaching the point of hysteria here.
According to Speaker, all the time he has been diagnosed with TB he has been interacting with his family, his daughter and his finance, now wife. He had been told repeatedly that he did not present a threat to others. Did they tell him not to travel to Europe? Yes, they did. But Speaker has a tape of these people telling him not to travel to Europe not because he was a threat to others, but because they felt they had to warn him not to travel to cover their own rear ends.
I believe that the bottom line here is that this man felt that his best chance of recovery was to get to that TB hospital in Denver. He also believed that he did not present a contagious threat to others. Doctors had repeatedly told him that he was not contagious and not a treat. Then they tell him that he can’t come back home.
Put me in his place... same circumstances ... same promises that he wasn’t a threat .. and I’m going to do everything I can to get around the government bureaucracy and get to Denver. The American government would just not be worthy of my trust in this situation. The CDC says now that they were working hard to get him home. Somehow I’m having a hard time believing that.
We need to stop hammering this guy and try to figure out why our great Homeland Security system couldn’t keep him out of this country. He was on a no-fly list. His name was on a computer at every border crossing. Yet he got through. Let’s study that situation, and leave this guy alone to try to recover from his disease.
Oh ... and before we move on, we need to say this. Andy Speaker is a personal injury lawyer. Turn the situation around just a bit. Let someone who was on that airplane contact him for representation. How long before we would see the lawsuits fly!
Bottom line. The guy has a life-threatening disease. He wanted to get home. He was told that he wasn’t a threat to other people. He saw the impossible American government bureaucracy getting in his way. He did what he had to do to protect himself. You would do the same.
That's Situational Ethics. Your daughter is sick. She will die. You can't afford the medicine. Do you break in to the pharmacy and steal the medicine? Well, who wouldn't??
But it's that thinking that leads to a total breakdown. It's right out of the Frankfurt School. Sure. Go ahead. The government laws are in your way -- go right ahead and circumvent them. And then, when you're caught, you can spend a long time in jail. That's just how it works, Situational Ethics or not.
My point is that some mitigating factors are sometimes used to "excuse" behavior which is inappropriate. I believe in personal responsibility and facing the consequences for our actions.
If he were gay, this entire flap would not be happening.
“And why does SHE wear the mask.”
To complete her “Naughty Nurse” ensemble, of course.
Not only that, as a spouse she can’t even be forced to testify to what he did. (At least in Texas, unless it invovles domestic/child abuse. Rules may be different, elsewhere.)
I think he wanted to make sure the marriage happened before the hottie realized he was a dufus.
Why would you think things are going quite well when someone who was on the no-fly list was able to leave the country and get through the northern border? Seems to me that things are not going quite well when he traveled out of country without a problem. What if he had ebola instead of TB? How many people would be dead now?
And what’s up with the father-in-law who is a TB researcher at the CDC? That is a coincidence that rreeeaaaallyy bothers me.
Yeah, the press is probably going way overboard, and IMHO, they’re missing the real story which is the porous borders. But to think things are going swimmingly is to ignore the implications of this incident.
It's time this punk takes his medication.
At the border, the guard was ordered to don
the rest of us peons don’t get protection.
If he is exuding TBC [and the warning indicates
that he is for ‘non-peons], then her clothes, her eyes,
her hair, her arms, are now all contaminated.
But then, these are the same folks who think imported,
and widely spread, epidemics of incurable diseases
are a GOOD thing.
I saw a picture of her without the mask. They’re guilty.
In some places, though, she *can* be forced to testify to things he did or said before their marriage in Greece in mid-May, as they might relate to this situation - seeing as how he was diagnosed in January.
This Edwards clone lives life like its all about him.
I say he deserves all the lawsuits he will get.
Why is the guy’s wife a duck?
You know someone is going to sue.
I like Boortz, but I don't agree with him on this one. If you are told not to travel and then you do it any way, it's wrong. This guy strikes me as a "me first, screw everyone else" type.... or at least his behavior seems that way to me.
What if . . .
What if he had a map of the subway system of Pittsburgh, PA in his joc%$trap?
You and Katie Couric would get along quite well.
Where did you get your degree in epidemiology that you know so much about it?
They may, but unless any of them has significant consequences as a result of his actions, I doubt a huge settlement. The likelihood is that the worst any of them will suffer will be having to take medication for some months. However, this should not be interpreted to mean I approve of his action - I don't. Any of the lawyers here care to comment?
I don’t believe that this self-centered, narcissistic twerp is “very sorry” at all for the pain he has caused. I do think he is “very sorry” about the potential consequences to himself - i.e. lawsuits and the fact that so many people think that his selfish behavior was beneath contempt.
“This guy strikes me as a “me first, screw everyone else” type.... or at least his behavior seems that way to me.”
Says a lot about his character...his bride should be very worried.
And then there is the “situation” of having planned a Bridezilla dream wedding in the Greek Isles with an extended European honeymoon. The gown, the guests, the M-O-N-E-Y! The groom comes down with a virulent strain of TB.
What’s a gal to do? Answer: SCREW EVERYONE ELSE THIS IS ALL ABOUT ME! ME! ME! Can you recall another “situation” of such breathtaking selfishness? I cant.
Oh, and BTW, the happy couple took Bridezilla’s 8 yr. old daughter along for the fun. Why haven’t these people all been arrested, every last one of them? The new father-in-law knew about this, it is his field of expertise at the CDC.
I am so damn tired of DHS incompetence. The bunch of them are nothing more than a very expensive sad joke. Old people getting frisked at the airport and beating up soldiers in Las Vegas...disband that corrupt and broken black hole NOW!
The press has got to keep the story out in front while they wait for the DNC to find a way to blame it on Bush.
IMO, the piece of crap should be locked up.
Why did they only recommend that he not travel, but admit they were only doing it as a bureaucratic formality, but after he didn't follow that recommendation ban him from returning to the US?
They told him that he was no threat to others, and then tried to bar him from returning to the US where he could get appropriate medical care.
Either he was contagious and should have been banned from traveling, or he wasn't contagious and should have been allowed to return to get treatment.
It sounds like either the CDC screwed up, or some arrogant bastard at the CDC didn't like the fact that this guy didn't heed the recommendation not to travel and decided that despite his fellow doctors telling the guy he wasn't a threat, that he was going to make the guy pay.
In either case, there is no excuse for our government banning a US citizen who had committed no crime, and who was told that there was no real reason that he couldn't travel by the CDC and has it on tape.
If the CDC screwed up and shouldn't have let him travel, they should have arranged for him to pay commercial airline rates to take a military transport form Aviano Air base in Italy back to the US.
He has every right to feel that his government mislead and then abandoned him.
I sincerely hope that no one he came in contact with got TB from him, but from the sounds of things, it seems extremely unlikely that would have happened. It sounds more like some bureaucrat in the CDC pitched a fit, and now they can't back down and have to scare the crap out of anyone he might have come in contact with to cover their asses.
Why also if this guy was such a danger did we not warn Europe and Canada not to let him fly either? Or did Europe and Canada not share the belated concerns of the US CDC?
See Post #7
The guy is not contagious. The MSM just wants you to think he is so they can have something to shriek about, since there aren't any missing blond girls at present. They are preying on the general public's epidemiological ignorance.
Should have known better with his education. Real jerk. http://i19.tinypic.com/677haw0.gif
You and the CDC Head ought spend a few weeks close with him.
But then you get a CHOICE - the public did not.
Woooo-eeee. San Francisco, New Orleans, Rio de Janeiro, Rome, Kinshasa, Karachi, Bangkok, Peking!
That's some trip you're taking, sir, All in one week!
MR. PONYTAIL (o.s.) Business.
TICKET AGENT: (handing over the tickets) Have a good one, sir.
Boortz is a lawyer too - and has about as much decency in him as the rest of that bunch.
In the interest of accuracy, he didn’t fly back to the US. He flew back to Canada, then drove across the border where the inspector saw the flag and made an poor decision.
If the inspector hadn’t noticed the flag, or hadn’t properly queried him on primary, then I’d be really worried. Bottom line, one person on the border made the wrong call.
Very true. If anyone has liver complications, optic neuropathy or quinolone-related tendon ruptures, etc. out of this, there will be a huge settlement. But apparently he had no AFB in his sputum, so I understand why they’re saying the risk is low.
I think that you’re missing the point. He was safe to walk around here and interact with others but he goes to Europe and the CDC plays CYA. Either he wasn’t contagious or he was.
If he was so dangerous, why didn’t the CDC quarantine him to begin with instead of letting him conduct his life normally? If he was contagious in Europe, he was contagious here.
In addition to being a megalomaniacal delusional idiot, this doofus is a ******* liar!
If what he says is true, why did he "sneak" back into the United States? He knew exactly why and his actions belie his words.
I hope he gets exactly what he deserves. Let's leave it at that.
This says all I need to know about Boortz. He's also a selfish idiot.
I would not do the same. I would make sure my disease is arrested and rendered harmless if there is that much attention focused on me for whatever reason.
And if I were a lawyer, failure to do so makes me a stupid lawyer.
Given these circumstances if true I would have to agree. Fortunately it was not contagious. With all the "what if" scenarios I see on this thread let me throw this out.
What if the guy wasn't a lawyer?
What if he was in another country like Sudan?
What if it was you or your child?
What would the responses be to this story?
Flame suit on.
This self-centered creep should only choke. Why don’t we just have those who purposely spread AIDS apologize adnd then forget all about it? This one cannot see beyond himself in order to see what he has done. Personal injury lawyer - oh, yes!
Not knowing the strain of TB, I find it incredulous that any doctor would tell this idiot that he was of no threat to others.
It sounds more & more that this selfish POS just did not want to wait for the results. So, other people be damned, off to a European wedding & honeymoon he goes.
Many many moons ago when I had just turned 18 I had to have a TB skin test for a job. The test came back positive.
I was put on a medication (INH?) for a year.
I had a few nasty side effects while taking it.
I informed the Dr's that I would not take any more pills after a few months of side effects.
They showed up at my door the next day with the nice policeman.
They were there to inform me that they had a (nice free room and board with a bad view) place for me to stay at for the rest of the year if I did not comply.
Getting a good scare, I complied for long miserable year.
Wise on your part.
The issue is no joke, but many people don’t realize the seriousness. And back many moons ago, there just wasn’t the public awareness.
He's trying to turn himself into the victim. Notice the passive voice, the wife in tears.
1. He’s an trial lawyer. He’s probably sued many people for lesser negligence.
2. He knew the risk of possibly infecting many others with this. That other people on the flight could get infected with this horrible strain of TB, but he decided to ignore it.
3. If the man was so innocent, why did he try to sneak back into the US via Canada?
4. Was the wedding in Greece so important? He risked so many people so she could
5. He is trying to turn himself into a victim.
Bottom line: He’s probably so narsassitc that he thinks he is above everyone else. One set of laws for everyone else, but he is exempt. Typical trial lawyer.
Exactly!!! He never had to go. The wife looks like a real golddigger. Additionally, if the family could afford the well-to-do wedding in Europe, he likely had enough money to charter a flight home as well. Instead he chose a commerical flight.
Truth be told, there was a time when that could have been contained by closing sex clubs, bathhouses, etc., but the government did nothing because of PC.
Given the gay lifestyle, aerosolized TB is probably less contagious than is sexually transmitted HIV.
Reward for this fecklessness: permanent endemic or epidemic status of HIV in every nation in the world.
Nice work CDC and the d*c&w^^d C. Everett Koop the nitwit pol surgeon.