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TB Patient Apologizes For Causing Scare
kfoxtv.com ^ | 06/01/07 | fixtv

Posted on 06/01/2007 7:17:20 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3

The tuberculosis patient who sparked an uproar over his decision to fly against medical advice said he's "very sorry" for the pain he has caused.

But Andrew Speaker said he didn't think he was contagious and no one ever said he would be putting people at risk.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: apologizes; speaker; tbandy

1 posted on 06/01/2007 7:17:21 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3
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To: TornadoAlley3
The press is going insane over this non-story, which indicates that things are actually going quite well in these United States, despite everything they would have you believe.
2 posted on 06/01/2007 7:19:09 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("All the measures of the law should protect property and punish plunder." --Frederic Bastiat)
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To: TornadoAlley3
And the lawyer comes out.

Apologize vaguely for PR purposes, but be careful to admit no wrongdoing of any kind.

3 posted on 06/01/2007 7:19:18 AM PDT by wideawake ("Pearl Harbor is all America's fault, right, Mommy?" - Ron Paul, age 6, 12/7/1941)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Its a good thing this selfish crud is a lawyer, he’s going to spend his life in court.


4 posted on 06/01/2007 7:20:03 AM PDT by Uncle George
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To: TornadoAlley3

The sign says ....

And why does SHE wear the mask. Lawyer privilege.

5 posted on 06/01/2007 7:21:25 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Diogenesis

she also can’t be forced to testify about conversation that they had, she can testify to what he did, but if the “marital privilege” exists in GA, wifey can’t talk


6 posted on 06/01/2007 7:24:24 AM PDT by machogirl
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To: TornadoAlley3

From Boortz.com...

Now ... let’s address all of this hysteria over the TB Guy. It turns out that he’s an attorney. A personal injury attorney, no less. His name is Andrew Speaker.

Everyone seems to be in a lather over the idea that he endangered an entire plane load of people by coming back to the United States on a Czech airliner.

Methinks we’re approaching the point of hysteria here.

According to Speaker, all the time he has been diagnosed with TB he has been interacting with his family, his daughter and his finance, now wife. He had been told repeatedly that he did not present a threat to others. Did they tell him not to travel to Europe? Yes, they did. But Speaker has a tape of these people telling him not to travel to Europe not because he was a threat to others, but because they felt they had to warn him not to travel to cover their own rear ends.

I believe that the bottom line here is that this man felt that his best chance of recovery was to get to that TB hospital in Denver. He also believed that he did not present a contagious threat to others. Doctors had repeatedly told him that he was not contagious and not a treat. Then they tell him that he can’t come back home.

Put me in his place... same circumstances ... same promises that he wasn’t a threat .. and I’m going to do everything I can to get around the government bureaucracy and get to Denver. The American government would just not be worthy of my trust in this situation. The CDC says now that they were working hard to get him home. Somehow I’m having a hard time believing that.

We need to stop hammering this guy and try to figure out why our great Homeland Security system couldn’t keep him out of this country. He was on a no-fly list. His name was on a computer at every border crossing. Yet he got through. Let’s study that situation, and leave this guy alone to try to recover from his disease.

Oh ... and before we move on, we need to say this. Andy Speaker is a personal injury lawyer. Turn the situation around just a bit. Let someone who was on that airplane contact him for representation. How long before we would see the lawsuits fly!

Bottom line. The guy has a life-threatening disease. He wanted to get home. He was told that he wasn’t a threat to other people. He saw the impossible American government bureaucracy getting in his way. He did what he had to do to protect himself. You would do the same.


7 posted on 06/01/2007 7:24:57 AM PDT by albie
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To: albie
He saw the impossible American government bureaucracy getting in his way. He did what he had to do to protect himself. You would do the same.

That's Situational Ethics. Your daughter is sick. She will die. You can't afford the medicine. Do you break in to the pharmacy and steal the medicine? Well, who wouldn't??

But it's that thinking that leads to a total breakdown. It's right out of the Frankfurt School. Sure. Go ahead. The government laws are in your way -- go right ahead and circumvent them. And then, when you're caught, you can spend a long time in jail. That's just how it works, Situational Ethics or not.

My point is that some mitigating factors are sometimes used to "excuse" behavior which is inappropriate. I believe in personal responsibility and facing the consequences for our actions.

8 posted on 06/01/2007 7:30:53 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Enoch Powell was right.)
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To: albie

If he were gay, this entire flap would not be happening.


9 posted on 06/01/2007 7:32:02 AM PDT by DonaldC
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To: Diogenesis

“And why does SHE wear the mask.”

To complete her “Naughty Nurse” ensemble, of course.


10 posted on 06/01/2007 7:32:49 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Fred Thompson)
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To: machogirl

Not only that, as a spouse she can’t even be forced to testify to what he did. (At least in Texas, unless it invovles domestic/child abuse. Rules may be different, elsewhere.)


11 posted on 06/01/2007 7:35:21 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Fred Thompson)
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To: MeanWestTexan

I think he wanted to make sure the marriage happened before the hottie realized he was a dufus.


12 posted on 06/01/2007 7:35:28 AM PDT by SlapHappyPappy
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Why would you think things are going quite well when someone who was on the no-fly list was able to leave the country and get through the northern border? Seems to me that things are not going quite well when he traveled out of country without a problem. What if he had ebola instead of TB? How many people would be dead now?

And what’s up with the father-in-law who is a TB researcher at the CDC? That is a coincidence that rreeeaaaallyy bothers me.

Yeah, the press is probably going way overboard, and IMHO, they’re missing the real story which is the porous borders. But to think things are going swimmingly is to ignore the implications of this incident.


13 posted on 06/01/2007 7:39:41 AM PDT by iceskater
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To: TornadoAlley3
The tuberculosis patient who sparked an uproar over his decision to fly against medical advice said he's "very sorry" for the pain he has caused.

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It's time this punk takes his medication.

14 posted on 06/01/2007 7:41:16 AM PDT by dragonblustar
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To: MeanWestTexan

At the border, the guard was ordered to don
special gear.

the rest of us peons don’t get protection.

If he is exuding TBC [and the warning indicates
that he is for ‘non-peons], then her clothes, her eyes,
her hair, her arms, are now all contaminated.

But then, these are the same folks who think imported,
and widely spread, epidemics of incurable diseases
are a GOOD thing.


15 posted on 06/01/2007 7:43:07 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: SlapHappyPappy

I saw a picture of her without the mask. They’re guilty.


16 posted on 06/01/2007 7:43:37 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Fred Thompson)
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To: MeanWestTexan

In some places, though, she *can* be forced to testify to things he did or said before their marriage in Greece in mid-May, as they might relate to this situation - seeing as how he was diagnosed in January.


17 posted on 06/01/2007 7:46:11 AM PDT by Rte66
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To: albie
True. I might have done the same. But I know I would have to face the consequences.

This Edwards clone lives life like its all about him.

I say he deserves all the lawsuits he will get.

Karma

18 posted on 06/01/2007 7:46:12 AM PDT by JRochelle (Just say no to the slick crazy bully.)
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To: Diogenesis

Why is the guy’s wife a duck?


19 posted on 06/01/2007 7:48:03 AM PDT by ikka
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To: TornadoAlley3
Nothing says "I'm sorry" quite like a huge settlement paid out to the people who sat on the plane near him.

You know someone is going to sue.

I like Boortz, but I don't agree with him on this one. If you are told not to travel and then you do it any way, it's wrong. This guy strikes me as a "me first, screw everyone else" type.... or at least his behavior seems that way to me.

20 posted on 06/01/2007 7:49:46 AM PDT by Volunteer (Just so you know, I am ashamed the Dixie Chicks make records in Nashville.)
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To: iceskater
What if he had ebola

What if . . .

What if he had a map of the subway system of Pittsburgh, PA in his joc%$trap?

21 posted on 06/01/2007 7:51:45 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Treaty)
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To: iceskater
And what’s up with the father-in-law who is a TB researcher at the CDC? That is a coincidence that rreeeaaaallyy bothers me.

You and Katie Couric would get along quite well.

Where did you get your degree in epidemiology that you know so much about it?

22 posted on 06/01/2007 7:57:08 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("All the measures of the law should protect property and punish plunder." --Frederic Bastiat)
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To: Volunteer
Nothing says "I'm sorry" quite like a huge settlement paid out to the people who sat on the plane near him. You know someone is going to sue.

They may, but unless any of them has significant consequences as a result of his actions, I doubt a huge settlement. The likelihood is that the worst any of them will suffer will be having to take medication for some months. However, this should not be interpreted to mean I approve of his action - I don't. Any of the lawyers here care to comment?

23 posted on 06/01/2007 8:01:30 AM PDT by retMD
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To: dragonblustar

I don’t believe that this self-centered, narcissistic twerp is “very sorry” at all for the pain he has caused. I do think he is “very sorry” about the potential consequences to himself - i.e. lawsuits and the fact that so many people think that his selfish behavior was beneath contempt.


24 posted on 06/01/2007 8:01:48 AM PDT by Sons of Union Vets
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To: dragonblustar

LOL!


25 posted on 06/01/2007 8:04:55 AM PDT by oakcon
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To: Volunteer

“This guy strikes me as a “me first, screw everyone else” type.... or at least his behavior seems that way to me.”

Says a lot about his character...his bride should be very worried.


26 posted on 06/01/2007 8:06:17 AM PDT by DonaldC
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To: ClearCase_guy
>>That’s Situational Ethics. Your daughter is sick. She will die. You can’t afford the medicine. Do you break in to the pharmacy and steal the medicine? Well, who wouldn’t??<<

And then there is the “situation” of having planned a Bridezilla dream wedding in the Greek Isles with an extended European honeymoon. The gown, the guests, the M-O-N-E-Y! The groom comes down with a virulent strain of TB.
What’s a gal to do? Answer: SCREW EVERYONE ELSE THIS IS ALL ABOUT ME! ME! ME! Can you recall another “situation” of such breathtaking selfishness? I cant.

Oh, and BTW, the happy couple took Bridezilla’s 8 yr. old daughter along for the fun. Why haven’t these people all been arrested, every last one of them? The new father-in-law knew about this, it is his field of expertise at the CDC.

I am so damn tired of DHS incompetence. The bunch of them are nothing more than a very expensive sad joke. Old people getting frisked at the airport and beating up soldiers in Las Vegas...disband that corrupt and broken black hole NOW!

27 posted on 06/01/2007 8:07:47 AM PDT by ishabibble (ALL AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
"The press is going insane over this non-story, which indicates that things are actually going quite well in these United States, despite everything they would have you believe."

The press has got to keep the story out in front while they wait for the DNC to find a way to blame it on Bush.

IMO, the piece of crap should be locked up.

28 posted on 06/01/2007 8:09:52 AM PDT by cake_crumb (May I never live to see the day America has a 'popular war'. God bless our troops.)
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To: albie
I'm wondering why if this guy was so dangerous was he not put on the no fly list until after he left the country?

Why did they only recommend that he not travel, but admit they were only doing it as a bureaucratic formality, but after he didn't follow that recommendation ban him from returning to the US?

They told him that he was no threat to others, and then tried to bar him from returning to the US where he could get appropriate medical care.

Either he was contagious and should have been banned from traveling, or he wasn't contagious and should have been allowed to return to get treatment.

It sounds like either the CDC screwed up, or some arrogant bastard at the CDC didn't like the fact that this guy didn't heed the recommendation not to travel and decided that despite his fellow doctors telling the guy he wasn't a threat, that he was going to make the guy pay.

In either case, there is no excuse for our government banning a US citizen who had committed no crime, and who was told that there was no real reason that he couldn't travel by the CDC and has it on tape.

If the CDC screwed up and shouldn't have let him travel, they should have arranged for him to pay commercial airline rates to take a military transport form Aviano Air base in Italy back to the US.

He has every right to feel that his government mislead and then abandoned him.

I sincerely hope that no one he came in contact with got TB from him, but from the sounds of things, it seems extremely unlikely that would have happened. It sounds more like some bureaucrat in the CDC pitched a fit, and now they can't back down and have to scare the crap out of anyone he might have come in contact with to cover their asses.

Why also if this guy was such a danger did we not warn Europe and Canada not to let him fly either? Or did Europe and Canada not share the belated concerns of the US CDC?

29 posted on 06/01/2007 8:14:36 AM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: retMD
. The likelihood is that the worst any of them will suffer will be having to take medication for some months.

It's bad enough having to take Isonaizid for 6 months, but since this is an MDR strain they'll probably end up with something like 6-12 months of daily ethambutol and pyrazinamide or 6-12 months of pyrazinamide and a quinolone (i.e, levofloxacin, ofloxacin, or ciprofloxacin). Though rare, average onset for optic neuropathy with ethambutol is 3.4 months. So the risk of liver/other risks due to prophylactic treatment aren't insignificant.
30 posted on 06/01/2007 8:14:53 AM PDT by Old_Mil (Duncan Hunter in 2008! A Veteran, A Patriot, A Reagan Republican... http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: cake_crumb
IMO, the piece of crap should be locked up.

See Post #7

The guy is not contagious. The MSM just wants you to think he is so they can have something to shriek about, since there aren't any missing blond girls at present. They are preying on the general public's epidemiological ignorance.

31 posted on 06/01/2007 8:17:21 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("All the measures of the law should protect property and punish plunder." --Frederic Bastiat)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Should have known better with his education. Real jerk. http://i19.tinypic.com/677haw0.gif


32 posted on 06/01/2007 8:19:13 AM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: TornadoAlley3
I can not get over how selfish this jerk was. He is saying that doctors suggested that he not fly in the first place. Doctors usually don't say that because they feel like it. And on top of it one would think that if you were contacted in Rome about your health that you would realize what a possible risk you would cause instead of being a jerk and possibly endangering hundreds of others. If this had been super contagious the people he contaminated would have contaminated hundreds of others by now. His apology is obviously PR, the guy could care less! For more on the subject you should read what Dr. Blaylock has to say about it.
33 posted on 06/01/2007 8:27:01 AM PDT by BananaHamock
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Tuberculosis is contagious.

You and the CDC Head ought spend a few weeks close with him.
But then you get a CHOICE - the public did not.

TICKET AGENT:
Woooo-eeee. San Francisco, New Orleans, Rio de Janeiro, Rome, Kinshasa, Karachi, Bangkok, Peking!
That's some trip you're taking, sir, All in one week!

MR. PONYTAIL (o.s.) Business.

TICKET AGENT: (handing over the tickets) Have a good one, sir.


34 posted on 06/01/2007 8:27:37 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: albie

Boortz is a lawyer too - and has about as much decency in him as the rest of that bunch.


35 posted on 06/01/2007 8:32:03 AM PDT by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: TornadoAlley3

In the interest of accuracy, he didn’t fly back to the US. He flew back to Canada, then drove across the border where the inspector saw the flag and made an poor decision.

If the inspector hadn’t noticed the flag, or hadn’t properly queried him on primary, then I’d be really worried. Bottom line, one person on the border made the wrong call.


36 posted on 06/01/2007 8:40:17 AM PDT by SandyInSeattle (Some people are like slinkys, the idea of them tumbling down a flight of stairs makes you smile.)
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To: Old_Mil

Very true. If anyone has liver complications, optic neuropathy or quinolone-related tendon ruptures, etc. out of this, there will be a huge settlement. But apparently he had no AFB in his sputum, so I understand why they’re saying the risk is low.


37 posted on 06/01/2007 8:52:49 AM PDT by retMD
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To: ClearCase_guy

I think that you’re missing the point. He was safe to walk around here and interact with others but he goes to Europe and the CDC plays CYA. Either he wasn’t contagious or he was.


38 posted on 06/01/2007 8:53:43 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: Sons of Union Vets

If he was so dangerous, why didn’t the CDC quarantine him to begin with instead of letting him conduct his life normally? If he was contagious in Europe, he was contagious here.


39 posted on 06/01/2007 8:57:32 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: TornadoAlley3
But Andrew Speaker said he didn't think he was contagious and no one ever said he would be putting people at risk.

In addition to being a megalomaniacal delusional idiot, this doofus is a ******* liar!

If what he says is true, why did he "sneak" back into the United States? He knew exactly why and his actions belie his words.

I hope he gets exactly what he deserves. Let's leave it at that.

40 posted on 06/01/2007 9:00:11 AM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: albie
He saw the impossible American government bureaucracy getting in his way. He did what he had to do to protect himself. You would do the same.

This says all I need to know about Boortz. He's also a selfish idiot.

I would not do the same. I would make sure my disease is arrested and rendered harmless if there is that much attention focused on me for whatever reason.

And if I were a lawyer, failure to do so makes me a stupid lawyer.

41 posted on 06/01/2007 9:05:40 AM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: albie
Bottom line. The guy has a life-threatening disease. He wanted to get home. He was told that he wasn’t a threat to other people. He saw the impossible American government bureaucracy getting in his way. He did what he had to do to protect himself. You would do the same.

Given these circumstances if true I would have to agree. Fortunately it was not contagious. With all the "what if" scenarios I see on this thread let me throw this out.

What if the guy wasn't a lawyer?

What if he was in another country like Sudan?

What if it was you or your child?

What would the responses be to this story?

Flame suit on.

42 posted on 06/01/2007 9:20:34 AM PDT by beltfed308 (Rudy: When you absolutely,positively need a liberal for President.)
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To: wideawake

This self-centered creep should only choke. Why don’t we just have those who purposely spread AIDS apologize adnd then forget all about it? This one cannot see beyond himself in order to see what he has done. Personal injury lawyer - oh, yes!


43 posted on 06/01/2007 9:31:09 AM PDT by twonie (Keep your guns - and stockpile ammo.)
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To: TornadoAlley3
According to MedicalNewsToday To evaluate drug susceptibility, the bacteria need to be cultivated and tested in a suitable laboratory. Such a final diagnosis for TB, and especially XDR-TB, may take 6-16 weeks.

Not knowing the strain of TB, I find it incredulous that any doctor would tell this idiot that he was of no threat to others.

It sounds more & more that this selfish POS just did not want to wait for the results. So, other people be damned, off to a European wedding & honeymoon he goes.

44 posted on 06/01/2007 9:45:29 AM PDT by Solon
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To: retMD
The likelihood is that the worst any of them will suffer will be having to take medication for some months.

Many many moons ago when I had just turned 18 I had to have a TB skin test for a job. The test came back positive.

I was put on a medication (INH?) for a year.

I had a few nasty side effects while taking it.

I informed the Dr's that I would not take any more pills after a few months of side effects.

They showed up at my door the next day with the nice policeman.

They were there to inform me that they had a (nice free room and board with a bad view) place for me to stay at for the rest of the year if I did not comply.

Getting a good scare, I complied for long miserable year.

45 posted on 06/01/2007 9:46:29 AM PDT by wanderin
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To: wanderin

Wise on your part.

The issue is no joke, but many people don’t realize the seriousness. And back many moons ago, there just wasn’t the public awareness.


46 posted on 06/01/2007 10:03:11 AM PDT by retMD
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To: wideawake
And the lawyer comes out. Apologize vaguely for PR purposes, but be careful to admit no wrongdoing of any kind.

He's trying to turn himself into the victim. Notice the passive voice, the wife in tears.

47 posted on 06/01/2007 10:43:54 AM PDT by Barney Gumble (A liberal is someone too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel - Robert Frost)
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To: albie

1. He’s an trial lawyer. He’s probably sued many people for lesser negligence.

2. He knew the risk of possibly infecting many others with this. That other people on the flight could get infected with this horrible strain of TB, but he decided to ignore it.

3. If the man was so innocent, why did he try to sneak back into the US via Canada?

4. Was the wedding in Greece so important? He risked so many people so she could

5. He is trying to turn himself into a victim.

Bottom line: He’s probably so narsassitc that he thinks he is above everyone else. One set of laws for everyone else, but he is exempt. Typical trial lawyer.


48 posted on 06/01/2007 10:46:49 AM PDT by Barney Gumble (A liberal is someone too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel - Robert Frost)
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To: ishabibble
And then there is the “situation” of having planned a Bridezilla dream wedding in the Greek Isles with an extended European honeymoon. The gown, the guests, the M-O-N-E-Y! The groom comes down with a virulent strain of TB. What’s a gal to do? Answer: SCREW EVERYONE ELSE THIS IS ALL ABOUT ME! ME! ME

Exactly!!! He never had to go. The wife looks like a real golddigger. Additionally, if the family could afford the well-to-do wedding in Europe, he likely had enough money to charter a flight home as well. Instead he chose a commerical flight.

49 posted on 06/01/2007 10:54:43 AM PDT by Barney Gumble (A liberal is someone too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel - Robert Frost)
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To: TornadoAlley3
The CDC has been toothless with regard to quarantines ever since the AIDS epidemic.

Truth be told, there was a time when that could have been contained by closing sex clubs, bathhouses, etc., but the government did nothing because of PC.

Given the gay lifestyle, aerosolized TB is probably less contagious than is sexually transmitted HIV.

Reward for this fecklessness: permanent endemic or epidemic status of HIV in every nation in the world.

Nice work CDC and the d*c&w^^d C. Everett Koop the nitwit pol surgeon.

50 posted on 06/01/2007 11:01:11 AM PDT by caddie
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