Posted on 06/03/2007 1:06:14 PM PDT by Politicalmom
JEKYLL ISLAND - U.S. Sen. Saxby Chambliss, R-Ga., usually finds friendly audiences in Southeast Georgia.
Perhaps none more so than Saturday's annual conference of the National Guard Association of Georgia on Jekyll Island where the nearly 200 officers gave Chambliss standing ovations.
But it hasn't been that easy the past couple of weeks. Chambliss and Johnny Isakson, R-Ga., helped forge an agreement on immigration that would let about 8 million illegal immigrants remain in the country. When the news broke, Chambliss said his office was getting 1,000 calls a day, almost all negative, Lindsey Mabry, one of his aides, said last week.
(Excerpt) Read more at jacksonville.com ...
Come on, Georgians, we need to pressure this weasel until he gives.
His message - especially the part about border security being the top priority - must be getting out because the calls have eased up.
They are totally stupid and think we are too.
A new round of phone calls starting tomorrow for me.
We're killing him with calls and emails. They're not truthin'.
I'll start again tomorrow am. I will make 50 calls this week - 25 to chabliss and 25 to isaakson.
Having those toll free numbers posted on FR helps too.
I guess those elected to office no longer REPRESENT the people of their states. Rather, they are too busy pleasing the chicken butchers and corporate farmers and the National Homebuilders Association. They should all lose their next election.
(English number) The message is pro amnesty, but if you just wait, it will automatically connect you with your Senator.
This number needs to be slapped all over FR - maybe even put on the home page.
Where did they come up with this stupid a** 8 million number? Trying to make it look better and to say the calls have eased off, they are hoping they will ease off but I don't they have or Bush wouldn't be telling us what bad Americans we are for wanting the law enforced and wanting to keep our countries soverienty.
These conservative turncoats are merely assuring Teddy Kennedy, Ken Salazar, et al, remain in power forever!!!
More accurately, they represent themselves.
The illegal alien issue is a tug-of-war between the governors and the governed. The governors are trying to sell a scheme that would alter the electorate in their favor -- permanently.
Accordingly, it is essential that the governed prevail.
In the story Chambliss claims misinformation is being spread by talk show hosts. Nope I don’t think so, illegals would get immediate legalization under the bill and that’s amnesty, I don’t care what he or anyone else want to call it. So a message to Saxby and all the rest, stop insulting our intelligence.
“I guess those elected to office no longer REPRESENT the people of their states. Rather, they are too busy pleasing the chicken butchers and corporate farmers and the National Homebuilders Association”
Folks, we have a WINNER !
The Gospel Truth!!
I had the pleasure of hearing the booing and cat calls at the state convention. That was the highlight of the day.
Saxby has to a great degree been a real disappointment. There must be something in Washington water that turns them all want to “go along to get along.”
Saxby will hear from me again. And again.
They just need to bring back John Ashcroft. He just said there were 10,000 Middle Eastern men he wanted to talk to and they all got scared and hightailed it out of the country any and every way they could.
http://www.theorator.com/senate.html
This week, I will be pointing out to weary staffers that the NYC pipeline plot comes from Guyana, that the Fort Dix Six are from Albania, and the all of these people are Muslims. Don’t bother talking about Mexicans, that’s what the gov’t wants you to believe. VT killer Cho came here when he was 8 yrs. old. His parents were uneducated peasants. How did they get in here? KENNEDY 1965.
p.s. Let’s not forget Utah Mall Shooter (Albanian) or Seattle Jewish Center Shooter (Palestinian). There are lots more...
I have called both at least 10 times each, at numerous offices. I think I will switch to my cell phone and use my maiden name this week. :)
It’s pretty bad when Vernon Jones looks CONSERVATIVE next to Chambliss.
Fool us once, shame on you.
Fool us twice, and three times, and ...shame on us.
So prove to us you are able to secure the border by actually doing it. Build the fence. Make a real attempt to enforce existing law on employers hiring illegals.
Then we'll talk about a guest worker program.
Your "path to citizenship" for these many millions of illegal uneducated low-income foreign nationals who, from all indications have no special love for this country, only for their paycheck and welfare benefits, will hand electoral control to the Democrats for a long time to come.
Those who say anyone who is in the U.S. illegally must be arrested and sent home are not dealing with reality, Chambliss said.
There are an estimated 12 million people in the country illegally, a number that could be pared by a third under the proposal, Chambliss said.
If he is saying that the best case effect of the bill is that we still have 8 million illegals afterward, then the bill is an utter failure from the start.
If he is claiming that 4 million will be sent home and we will be left with only 8 million who will all now be legal, he is an idiot.
The 8 million number estimate is a joke. These people would bring in their family members from Mexico, and they have large families when they are here. And the 12 million figure is a low-ball figure to begin with.
If, according to him, it is impossible to deport any of the 12 million now, why should we believe him when he says we will be able to deport these 4 million who he says will not become "legal"?
Even if it was possible, the deportation of 12 million illegals would result in a collapse of the U.S. economy because there aren't enough people to fill the jobs, he said.
Businesses who employ the cheap illegal foreign nationals have an unfair advantage over law-abiding businesses.
These businesses are unfairly able to pass on hidden costs of the illegals, like healthcare expenses and high crime rates, to taxpayers.
These foreign nationals use the various welfare programs at a much higher rate than Americans do.
By law, hospital emergency rooms cannot turn the illegal foreign nationals away. So emergency rooms become their primary healthcare-giver and the cost is borne by taxpayers and higher insurance premiums for the rest of us.
Each illegal foreign national household will cost FAR more in government benefits that the US will ever receive in taxes from them.
They do not help solve the social security problem, they make it much worse because they pay very little in and eventually will taking a lot out.
Importing such a vast army of illegals with much higher disproportionate crime rates results in a heavy cost on the criminal justice system, borne by taxpayers and not these businesses.
Chambliss is protecting his buddies in the big businesses using cheap illegal foreign nationals who in effect are getting a huge, unfair subsidy from taxpayers in order to price their services and goods below that which they otherwise could and to obtain a higher rate of return on their businesses than they otherwise could.
Many people may falsely believe we are getting away with, for example, cheap lettuce, thanks to the illegals,but we really aren't -- the hidden costs are simply shifted to other bearers, for the most part taxpayers.
Bring back Ashcroft, I think that would be a good idea since on illegal immigration he had it right. Maybe that’s why he resigned, or was forced out...
Are either of the GA Senators up for reelection in ‘08?
He proved very easily how enforcing the laws scares illegals to deport themselves, something Eisenhower did 50 years ago. But open border apologists don’t want to hear it.
This statement is as ill informed as you are accusing the Senators of being.Agriculture is the number one industry in Georgia and is still dominated by small business men and family farmers.Without some type of guest worker program we will have peaches rotting on trees and Vidalia onions rotting in the fields.We have a few yahoos on this and other forums that would rather use their intellect such as it is to call names and sling mud rather than think about the problem.I wonder how many of these folks have read the bill in its entirety as they accuse Senators of not doing.I suspect most are parroting a few commentators that make their living off stirring up the folks that will take what they say as gospel and call honorable men weasels and other names
Politicians... When their constituents ask that they represent them as they are supposed to, the pols are “under attack”.
1,000 calls a day, almost all negative
And still this moron is supporting the deal?
He’s probably never had more then 40 calls in one day ever on any issue yet he is bucking the vast majority of his callers.
If America’s legal citizens don’t take to the streets as an act of mob rule like the illegal aliens do - well, then we must be happy with the bill. Mob rule is the new multicultural value apparently. Mob rule replaces the vote.
Oh of course, folks who broken the law to get here will no doubt turn themselves in and comply.
I think Chambliss will become a one-term Senator.
Our LEGAL immigration level takes in more immigrants than the rest of the countries in the world combined.
So why not take in another 50 million illegals? We could get the cost down to pennies an hour for picking peaches!
The benefit of cheaper peaches from being able to pay dirt wages to large numbers of illegal foreign nationals is FAR outweighed by the heavy taxpayer-provided benefits and the social costs imposed by these illegals.
Chambliss’ bill is NOT a temporary guest worker bill. It legalizes 10s of millions of illegal foreign nationals and gives them a path to being citizens and reliable Democrat voters. You can bet the ranch La Raza and the Rat grassroots will be moving heaven and earth to get the paperwork done for these people.
And who is going to pick your peaches in 10 years?
The first generation has arrived here from their poverty-stricken home and is happy to pick peaches for dirt wages.
What about their children in these large families?
They are, for the most part, not content to work for dirt wages. They are indoctrinated in the government schools and told they are victims of America. Studies show they are much more likely to be gang members and users of welfare than their first-generation parents. Costs of food stamps, prisons, AFDC, Section 8, schools, you name it, skyrockets.
So in 10 years the business owners will need to import another horde of uneducated, low-income first-generation illegals in order to pick their peaches. And these will bring in their large families, and their children also will be unwilling to pick peaches for dirt wages.
And the social and fiscal problem just gets exponentially worse.
Straw man argument.
How did the work get done before?
Either raise the wages, automate, or screen prisoners to do the work.
How can we read something that was negotiated behind closed doors?
I do not buy the “we need illegals” argument.
Sounds like agri-business just does not want to hire Americans to work. The only reason illegals are hired is because they are obviously lame enough to accpet less pay than an American.
Also, we have a lot less agri-business than we did years ago. There are fewer farms, and, the larger farms have the “economy of scale” to hire Americans without hurting the agri-businesses nor cause the price of agri products to rise.
I believe I read that in the 1986 amnesty (which was actually called an amnesty, as far as I know), the illegals had to pay a fine to be legalized. But back then, correct me if I’m wrong, they called it an amnesty. Do they believe they can fool us by calling it something else now?
Chambliss is up next year. He’s toast. I am livid about this.
Illegals are already doing construction jobs and spurning the agriculture/restaurant ones.
“a new round of phone calls”
Me, too!
Chambliss is a donkey rear.
It’s my understanding that Sham-bliss is up for re-election. The moderate democrat looks like he has a good shot at winning at this point.
A PAC was formed about a week or so ago to draft a conservative opponent for Chambliss. I would love to see Herman Cain go for it, but I don’t know what the state of his health is.
>>I wonder how many of these folks have read the bill in its entirety as they accuse Senators of not doing.I suspect most are parroting a few commentators that make their living off stirring up the folks that will take what they say as gospel and call honorable men weasels and other names<<
I have read the bill and am reading the amendments. It’s what I would write if I were writing a satire of a bad immigration bill.
Do you like illegals getting instant legalization ahead of legal applicants?
Do you like illegals not liable for back taxes while citizens are liable?
Do you want to instantly legalize illegal gang members? Illegals with 2 DUIs?
Do you want your tax money to pay for illegals’ lawyers?
Read the bill and the amendments.
Chambliss deserves the shots he is taking.
We had full employment and had not killed 40 million babies.The fact is we have a labor shortage even with the illegals.
We had full employment and had not killed 40 million babies.The fact is we have a labor shortage even with the illegals.
We had full employment and had not killed 40 million babies.The fact is we have a labor shortage even with the illegals.
No excuse it has been available for 2 weeks.
>Sounds like agri-business just does not want to hire Americans to work. The only reason illegals are hired is because they are obviously lame enough to accpet less pay than an American.<
Do some research you might be surprised.They can’t get americans to drive tractors and cut grass in South Ga.much less do the backbreaking work of picking onions.What do you consider lame pay?
You are right about John Ashcroft - One of the few trustworthy men in the Bush Administration. He was much better as Attorney General than Gonzalez.
Still doesn't justify illegal immigration.
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