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16,185 MURDERS; 92,837 RAPES A YEAR IN USA - DRUDGE
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Posted on 06/04/2007 8:55:54 AM PDT by DallasGOPMan

Maybe we need to get out of America...........


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: illegals; immigrants

1 posted on 06/04/2007 8:56:00 AM PDT by DallasGOPMan
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To: DallasGOPMan

How many committed by illegals?


2 posted on 06/04/2007 8:56:49 AM PDT by conserv8ive1 (Rudy and the Bots...blasting off to oblivion.)
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To: conserv8ive1

Too many.


3 posted on 06/04/2007 8:57:10 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Satan is working both sides of the street in World Socialism and World Courts.)
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To: DallasGOPMan

http://immigrationcounters.com/


4 posted on 06/04/2007 8:58:55 AM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: conserv8ive1

Good question, I’m not sure and I would bet they don’t track that very well....


5 posted on 06/04/2007 8:59:18 AM PDT by DallasGOPMan
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To: conserv8ive1
How many committed by illegals?

Interesting question. Would love to see the stats on that. Time to break out the shovel and do some digging. See ya.
6 posted on 06/04/2007 8:59:46 AM PDT by RedCell ("...thou shalt kill thine enemy before he killeth you by any means available" - Dick Marcinko)
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To: DallasGOPMan

Maybe we should go somewhere safer for Americans, like Iraq.


7 posted on 06/04/2007 8:59:50 AM PDT by Sopater (A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left. ~ Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: DallasGOPMan

But...but...back in the Sixties we were told to “Make love not War.”


8 posted on 06/04/2007 9:01:16 AM PDT by CholeraJoe ("Cruel is a matter of perspective." Cap'n Jack Sparrow)
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To: doug from upland; calcowgirl; Liz; indylindy

That counter is quite low on the number of illegals. It should also have a couple of new categories added: Crimes committed in the U.S. by illegals, and Cost of Crimes committed in the U.S. by illegals.


9 posted on 06/04/2007 9:02:08 AM PDT by TommyDale (More Americans are killed each day in the U.S. by abortion than were killed on 9/11 !)
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To: conserv8ive1

how many are committed by tax paying property owning regular folks with a stake in our future?


11 posted on 06/04/2007 9:02:44 AM PDT by wardaddy (on parole)
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To: DallasGOPMan

take away the groups that do a disproportionate amount of our violent crime and we are no different than say Sweden.

unfortunately, we can’t do that can we?


12 posted on 06/04/2007 9:04:09 AM PDT by wardaddy (on parole)
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To: wardaddy

Yes, but Sweden has voted to import groups of its own so we won’t look bad. Right kindly of them.

Mrs VS


13 posted on 06/04/2007 9:05:34 AM PDT by VeritatisSplendor
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To: DallasGOPMan

It’s a QUAGMIRE.


14 posted on 06/04/2007 9:06:42 AM PDT by new yorker 77 (Speaker Pelosi - Three cheers for Amnesty!)
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To: wardaddy
I'd like to see the figures of crimes committed by gang bangers, too. I think between the gangs and illegals, we could account for most of these crime statistics.

In light of this, everybody stay armed-stay safe!

15 posted on 06/04/2007 9:08:22 AM PDT by basil (Support the Second Amendment--buy another gun today!)
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To: Fstrt5
lol

I was for writing “It’s a quagmire” in a post before I changed my mind and decided against it. Hey, if our political leaders, the most powerful people in our country can reason like that, why can’t I?

16 posted on 06/04/2007 9:08:48 AM PDT by Red6 (Come and take it.)
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To: RedCell

Something from yesterday:
Forty-one percent of the people on the FBI’s list of people wanted nationwide for murder are Mexican nationals.

For comparison, Americans make up 49 percent.

Of all of the foreign nationals on the list, eighty-three percent are Mexican.


17 posted on 06/04/2007 9:09:02 AM PDT by moreisee
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To: conserv8ive1

As I understand it, 95% of the murder warrants in LA county are for illegals.


18 posted on 06/04/2007 9:09:06 AM PDT by atomicpossum (Replies must follow approved guidelines or you will be kill-filed without appeal.)
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To: DallasGOPMan

For the sake of comparison, the figures for the UK 2005/2006 and 60m population were:

Murders - 765 (50 were gun murders. The figures include the 52 victims of the 7/7 terrorist attacks, counting for 7% of total murders across the UK.)

Rape - 13,331 rapes

Robberies - 98,204

Burglary - 645,118

Source and trends: http://www.crimestatistics.org.uk/output/Page54.asp


19 posted on 06/04/2007 9:10:07 AM PDT by britemp
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To: DallasGOPMan
The media focuses on Iraq and Bush while murder, rape and home invasions spread like wildfires.
Media hounds can’t discredit politicians that support white flaggers and Bush haters.
20 posted on 06/04/2007 9:10:48 AM PDT by hermgem (The same)
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To: doug from upland

Just amazing.


21 posted on 06/04/2007 9:11:05 AM PDT by sweetiepiezer (Pray for W.)
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To: conserv8ive1
"How many committed by illegals?"

Yep, if I hear another bad news story with the words "hispanic male..." ---I'm just getting sick of it!!!

22 posted on 06/04/2007 9:13:01 AM PDT by NordP (The greatest gift God can give us is LIFE. The greatest gift man can give to another is FREEDOM.)
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To: DallasGOPMan

hmmmm... only 600 murders/year in NYC the past few years. at least official murders. lots of ways to classify dead people.


23 posted on 06/04/2007 9:14:04 AM PDT by thefactor
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To: VeritatisSplendor

one can always count on spoiled neurotic caucasians to destroy in short order what generations before them worked so hard for

out of guilt and shame


24 posted on 06/04/2007 9:14:31 AM PDT by wardaddy (on parole)
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To: DallasGOPMan
The total number is huge, of course, because we are a huge country. But the murder rate, a more revealing statistic, is relatively modest at 5.35 murders per 100,000.

Singapore for example had a rate in the late 90's of 4.3 per 100,000. Amsterdam, in the Netherlands checks in at 7.7 per 100,000.

Link: Death by Murder

25 posted on 06/04/2007 9:14:33 AM PDT by Michael.SF. ("The military Mission has long since been accomplished" -- Harry Reid, April 23, 2007)
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To: DallasGOPMan
Not to mention over 1,000,000 abortions per year (average) since 1973.
26 posted on 06/04/2007 9:14:37 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: hermgem

They’d have to explain why we need to leave Iraq because of the death toll but not our own country where there’s not even a war.


27 posted on 06/04/2007 9:15:56 AM PDT by jackv (just shakin' my head)
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To: conserv8ive1

“How many committed by illegals?’

I imagine a racial breakdown of the numbers would point to someone other than illegals as the major offenders.


28 posted on 06/04/2007 9:16:08 AM PDT by gcruse
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To: basil

The FBI maintains serious stats on crime by race, region, gender ...almost every classification one can venture

amazing they still do that....i’m surprised our ethnically sensitive POTUS and Gonzalito have not stopped that


29 posted on 06/04/2007 9:16:22 AM PDT by wardaddy (on parole)
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To: Fstrt5
You are all letting me down. I’ve been on this post for ten minutes and nobody has said quagmire.


30 posted on 06/04/2007 9:17:03 AM PDT by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: Michael.SF.

The total number is huge, of course, because we are a huge country. But the murder rate, a more revealing statistic, is relatively modest at 5.35 murders per 100,000.
Singapore for example had a rate in the late 90’s of 4.3 per 100,000. Amsterdam, in the Netherlands checks in at 7.7 per 100,000.

Link: Death by Murder’

I love it when a poster puts up facts. Thanks!


31 posted on 06/04/2007 9:18:06 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: DallasGOPMan

The feminists have severely diluted the definition of rape thus inflating the statistics for rape.


32 posted on 06/04/2007 9:19:44 AM PDT by Jeff Gordon ("An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile hoping it will eat him last." Churchill)
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To: DallasGOPMan

.......This just in: Harry Reid declares all is lost and we need to leave the U.S. immediately.

.......developing.


33 posted on 06/04/2007 9:21:45 AM PDT by Vasilli22
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To: Jeff Gordon

“The feminists have severely diluted the definition of rape thus inflating the statistics for rape.’

And when that wasn’t alarming enough, the offense was changed to sexual assault, further universaling the crime.


34 posted on 06/04/2007 9:25:56 AM PDT by gcruse
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To: Badeye
Bit of an unfair stat.

Wouldn’t it be better comparing Amsterdam to a similar sized city in the US, or doing a US / Netherlands comparison

35 posted on 06/04/2007 9:32:25 AM PDT by weegie
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To: weegie

‘Bit of an unfair stat’

I don’t think so at all. Break it out by how many per 100k, and all things become even.


36 posted on 06/04/2007 9:37:13 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: britemp

The population figure includes Scotland and Northern Ireland, but the crime stats only reflect England and Wales. The population of the U.S. is 300 million, so multiply by five to get a somewhat comparable number.


38 posted on 06/04/2007 9:46:17 AM PDT by Johnny.45 (Plant the seeds of gun control and the only thing that grows is violent crime.)
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To: Sopater
Maybe we should go somewhere safer for Americans, like Iraq.

You're kidding, right? You're not seriously comparing the death rates of 150,000 Americans in Iraq with 300 MILLION Americans in the U.S.

If you think Iraq is safer for Americans than the U.S., I guess it's time we pull out of Iraq -- we need those troops here! /s

39 posted on 06/04/2007 9:50:49 AM PDT by Millers Cave
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To: Spiff; DallasGOPMan; new yorker 77; Red6; Fstrt5

You are all letting me down. I’ve been on this post for ten minutes and nobody has said quagmire..........

Somebody say Quagmire?


40 posted on 06/04/2007 10:08:28 AM PDT by GQuagmire (Giggety,Giggety,Giggety)
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To: GQuagmire

Quagmire Quagmire Quagmire Quagmire Quagmire


41 posted on 06/04/2007 10:10:35 AM PDT by DallasGOPMan
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To: Millers Cave
You're kidding, right?

Yes, I'm kidding.
42 posted on 06/04/2007 10:14:47 AM PDT by Sopater (A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left. ~ Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: DallasGOPMan

If not for the murders we would have a pretty low crime rate. Wait a minute, who said that before?


43 posted on 06/04/2007 10:18:46 AM PDT by lone star annie
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To: RedCell
“How many committed by illegals?”
“Interesting question. Would love to see the stats on that. Time to break out the shovel and do some digging. See ya.”

Yep, then break that finding down further by identifying how many of the crimes by the illegals occurred in the so-called “sanctuary” cities, deep in the heard of the left-leaning democrats turf. As we know, law enforcement in those cities won’t tell the feds when they encounter illegals while performing in their line of duty.

44 posted on 06/04/2007 10:23:16 AM PDT by AlphaOneAlpha
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To: Johnny.45

‘The population figure includes Scotland and Northern Ireland, but the crime stats only reflect England and Wales.’

Well spotted! The population figure should read 53m, not 60m.


45 posted on 06/04/2007 10:49:27 AM PDT by britemp
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To: gcruse
'How many committed by illegals?’

I imagine a racial breakdown of the numbers would point to someone other than illegals as the major offenders.

I'm sure this would vary by location, but in NM (where I used to live) crime was mostly committed by a single demographic group.

Go to Atlanta or St. Louis, it's the same story with different players.

46 posted on 06/04/2007 11:14:27 AM PDT by Disambiguator
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