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Breaking News >> Body of Missing Kansas Teenager Kelsey Smith Reportedly Found
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Posted on 06/06/2007 12:15:24 PM PDT by BigBlueJon

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To: Lurking in Kansas

The more those of us go rural for raising our families this IMO will happen.

Some families have bad blood and it moves too.

Just look ate Cain and Abel, wheat field. : )


251 posted on 06/07/2007 12:43:39 AM PDT by Global2010 ( We need a Road to the White House Ping List Please Help)
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To: Global2010

when/if we have a daughter. I want her to be born into the United States of America, not Saudi Arabia. Waering tank tops and shorts is not what is creating these perverts and loons.

Again, I do not advocate women or anyone dressing offensive or any kind of non-decent conduct.

but tank tops and shorts ? are you kidding me ? No going to the beach either I assume.

Stop putting the blame on innocent people and trying to appease the bad guys. It is like terrorism. Americans shouldnt change the way we live to suit them. When we catch these guys, they need put to death.. NUFF SAID


252 posted on 06/07/2007 12:47:29 AM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative
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To: SuziQ
I had a friend who was accosted in a parking lot. He was told to get into the car by a man with a knife. He threw his keys as far as he could and the abductor ran to get the keys and my friend ran back to the store and called the police.

Thought it was a technique to remember.

I too am praying for the family and for her soul,what a cross to bear. May God hold them close.

253 posted on 06/07/2007 1:04:42 AM PDT by saradippity
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To: Global2010
Here is more information from KMBC-TV, the Kansas City Channel:

http://www.thekansascitychannel.com/news/13453443/detail.html

Edwin Hall is from Olathe, Kansas. A tip from the public lead to his arrest. One witness saw headlights in the park around 9 PM, which is within the time line for Kelsey’s disappearance. Police have found Hall’s pickup truck which was also seen on a surveillance video at the Target shopping area. There should be a wealth of forensic evidence in this truck. The body of Kelsey Smith was found 20 miles east of the shopping area in near Grandview, Montana. Because the body was found so soon after the murder, there will be a wealth of fresh evidence available.

Police will release elements of their evidence that point to Hall’s arrest Thursday morning.

254 posted on 06/07/2007 1:08:24 AM PDT by jonrick46
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To: All

More info on this thread, plus photo:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1846246/posts


255 posted on 06/07/2007 1:23:13 AM PDT by Rte66
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

Did not blame the victem.

Just said when if you have a daughter your views on modesty will change.

Young ladies can dress fashionalbe even at the beach but with modesty.

Why do you think street corner hookers dress the way they do?

They are selling a product.

Why don’t you see elderly woman dressing provocative?
It is not attractive and can be humorous.

Every see a young obese ladies wear low cut jeans and tight shirts? What runs through most mens mind?

Men are human and decent men can restraint fleeting thoughts.

Even not so decent men can restrain themselves.

Sick perverts which seem to becoming more pervasive in our culture/country do sick things.

Even to 80yr old woman.

IMO She was a target no matter what she wore.

But OTOH dressing without modesty no matter how innocent the thought behind it will attract mens eyes but as I said a major majority of men glance and move on.

Hugh Heffner did not become rich and famous for selling a magazine with modestly dressed woman.

And for as men taking off their shirt to play basketball, yes some women by human nature will take a look if he is toned and has a nice six pack.

I don’t like Fredrik Ljonberg because he is a great soccer/fotball player I like him because he is a great model for Calvin Klien underwear, well untill his last ad where they added a tall sexy blonde to the pic wrapping her body around him.

It’s human nature.
But to act on it and kill someone is evil.

At this point we don’t even know why the creep grabbed her and killed her may have nothing to do with sexuality could be he was had other motives for in his sick mind.


256 posted on 06/07/2007 1:31:07 AM PDT by Global2010 ( We need a Road to the White House Ping List Please Help)
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To: Rte66

thanks


257 posted on 06/07/2007 1:42:16 AM PDT by Global2010 ( We need a Road to the White House Ping List Please Help)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative
So you are going to marry your girlfriend?

Congratulations on the upcoming wedding.

Have you already proposed and so that would make her a fiance.

If not hope she doesn't read this forum it will really squash that surprise of the special moment you do ask her.

258 posted on 06/07/2007 1:46:53 AM PDT by Global2010 ( We need a Road to the White House Ping List Please Help)
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To: Global2010

I am proposing next week. :). I got the ring. the night is set up.

She does not read this site as far as I know.


259 posted on 06/07/2007 1:48:55 AM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative
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To: Global2010

I mean. She has been on FR. I told her about the site and she has read my profile. but I know she does not read it on a regular basis. She is not really into politics that much.

is what I meant to say.


260 posted on 06/07/2007 1:58:29 AM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative
Congratulations!
How exciting.
Mums the word.
261 posted on 06/07/2007 2:08:25 AM PDT by Global2010 ( We need a Road to the White House Ping List Please Help)
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To: devolve; Palladin; potlatch; PhilDragoo; ntnychik; dixiechick2000
I think you may be right

You would all be wrong. Last night police arrestes Edwin Hall, a 26 year old local man, for the arrest. Sorry to disappoint you.

262 posted on 06/07/2007 3:52:48 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Global2010

Thank you.
:)


263 posted on 06/07/2007 4:00:46 AM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative
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To: jonrick46
The body of Kelsey Smith was found 20 miles east of the shopping area in near Grandview, Montana.

Not to pick knits but it's Grandview, Missouri.

264 posted on 06/07/2007 4:42:31 AM PDT by tsmith130
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To: potlatch; holdonnow; stevemalzberg1; Laura_Ingraham; Carl/NewsMax; Matt Drudge; PhilDragoo; ...


480x600

Edwin Roy Hall


  • DOB 10/18/80
  • 511 N LINCOLN ST OLATHE KS 66061
  • 06/07/07
  • MURDER 1ST DEGREE
  • AGG KIDNAPPING
  • THEFT



265 posted on 06/07/2007 5:00:18 AM PDT by devolve ( _Illegal_Aliens_Killed_25_Americans_Today _20_More_Than_Al-Qaeda_Did_ _Smoke_Gets_in_My_Eyes_)
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To: devolve

Is that a mug shot? Where’s his dark hair which was clearly visible in the surveillance tape? Shaved his head to try looking less like the perp? There’s an Edwin K Hall age given as 51 in the Olathe - Shawnee Mission - Cottonwood KS area, easily popping up on the Search engines, but this guy didn’t appear in my search. Could be the father or an uncle...


266 posted on 06/07/2007 5:19:47 AM PDT by txrangerette (Congressman Duncan Hunter for POTUS...check him out!!)
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To: keats5

You’re so right. I’m sitting here with my 12 year old daughter showing her all the perverts in our neighborhood from the Watchdog.com site.

I do the same thing with my 12 year old. When I was 12 we had Son of Sam prowling around so I was crapping in my pants at the time!


267 posted on 06/07/2007 5:33:32 AM PDT by angcat ("IF YOU DON'T STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO STAND IN FRONT OF THEM")
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To: txrangerette

They have the same address. One of them works or worked at Target, too.


268 posted on 06/07/2007 5:37:27 AM PDT by Rte66
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To: MAexile
I have a daughter just a few years younger. I’m thinking power tools.

I have no daughters, but my five nieces are all nearing that age. Before reaching for the 18v cordless drill, I'd begin with the "knotted rope" procedure seen in Casino Royale.

269 posted on 06/07/2007 5:49:42 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: potlatch; PhilDragoo; ntnychik; dixiechick2000; txrangerette

270 posted on 06/07/2007 6:11:33 AM PDT by devolve ( _Illegal_Aliens_Killed_25_Americans_Today _20_More_Than_Al-Qaeda_Did_ _Smoke_Gets_in_My_Eyes_)
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To: Pyro7480

The Taliban agrees with you.


271 posted on 06/07/2007 6:14:42 AM PDT by Teacher317
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To: rednesss

You need to quick taking drugs.


272 posted on 06/07/2007 6:17:00 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: VA40

No the girl taken from Short Pump, Emily “Kate” Robertson.


273 posted on 06/07/2007 6:19:18 AM PDT by Canali
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To: tsmith130

great idea, and then practice with her, a very good father daughter bonding experience...well, it was for my dad and me


274 posted on 06/07/2007 6:44:50 AM PDT by AprilfromTexas
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To: Teacher317

Oh, please, that’s not an argument. That’s the same as crying “Nazi.” I’m not for burkhas. Just a little class for once!


275 posted on 06/07/2007 6:49:14 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Jesu, Jesu, Jesu, esto mihi Jesus" -St. Ralph Sherwin's last words at Tyburn)
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To: tsmith130

I’m sorry. It is Grandview, Missouri. The report abbreviated the state as Mo. Not being near a map, I assumed it meant Montana.


276 posted on 06/07/2007 6:49:42 AM PDT by jonrick46
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To: zerosix

Our prayers and condolences go out to her family.

I hope they catch the scum who did this.


277 posted on 06/07/2007 6:51:52 AM PDT by WestCoastGal ( The JUNIOR NATION is VERY proud of our driver. You drive we'll follow! There ain't no turning back!)
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To: WestCoastGal

He’s in custody since last evening, and is to be charged with premeditated murder and aggravated kidnapping. See post 265. He lives in the area. He’s the guy in the surveillance video. Even while the cops were saying that didn’t have a suspect and were asking for more leads, they were already questionning this guy. Shortly after ending the questionning he was detained and the announcement was made late last night. They have his dark old pickup truck, too.


278 posted on 06/07/2007 7:02:17 AM PDT by txrangerette (Congressman Duncan Hunter for POTUS...check him out!!)
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To: txrangerette

Thank you I missed the news until I posted that.

A very sad ending which is becoming all too frequent these days. Something has to be done to these predators to make them think twice before doing this. One good example as someone mentioned on the other thread used to work...hanging in the town square. Of course we are too “PC” these days and the trial will go on and on with excuse after excuse as to why he couldn’t help himself.

John Walsh AMW has said time and time again never let anyone put you in a car and take you someplace else because that usually ends in death........that’s easier said than done as in this case. Her father said she was a fighter and would not be taken easily.

I just can’t figure out why there are so many sexual predators out there these days.

I guess we will have to arm women and children with more defenses. I shop alone a lot of times, but always make sure no one is following me or near my car when I leave. Particularly vans which are used for snatch and grabs in parking lots. It is easy to think there’s safety in numbers at a shopping mall, but anything can happen anywhere.


279 posted on 06/07/2007 7:36:44 AM PDT by WestCoastGal ( The JUNIOR NATION is VERY proud of our driver. You drive we'll follow! There ain't no turning back!)
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To: CyberAnt

Our daughters are grown now. I was just telling another Freeper who was on this thread, that we sent our daughters to dance classes for years, and how I wish we would have sent them to self defense classes instead.


280 posted on 06/07/2007 7:46:19 AM PDT by Lijahsbubbe (President Bush - The Enabler)
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To: hershey
“We’re going to have to install micro-chips in people so cops can find them no matter what. We do it for pets, why not children?”

er.... the chips in pets are only used for identifying the pet, not finding them. I think you are confused.

281 posted on 06/07/2007 8:00:30 AM PDT by monday
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To: rwfromkansas

That’s all you can do.

If the world is getting violent, it might be well to look out for each other, travel in somewhat unassailable groups, don’t go to the mall alone unless you are the meanest sob in the valley.


282 posted on 06/07/2007 8:00:33 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Treaty)
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To: WestCoastGal

Another girl similar to Kelsey has recently gone missing in the same area. I haven’t heard an update, but am reading FReeper comments that he could turn out to be the perp in that case, too.

I’ll say this much. Somebody in his circle of family and friends KNEW there was something wrong with him. I guarantee you. Now, did they KNOW he was a potential psycopathic murderer. Oh of course not...nobody who is close to someone like that EVER dares to predict such a thing. But you’ll notice that others, who come in contact with them or observe them over the years from when they are children to young adulthood will candidly tell you that when they find out they did something like this, THEY are not surprised.

I know from first hand, a criminal type I went to a private school with and rode the same school bus with and went to the same church as his family, whom I would’ve predicted would turn that way, later did indeed commit a serious, violent felony. And when I knew this guy would turn out this way, he was in the SIXTH grade.

People need to be educated about seeking some kind of intervention for young people who show the signs they are headed for serious deviancy.

Kelsey.

Such a beautiful, vibrant girl. Seems to come from a good, close knit family. Graduated a few days ago. Had a nice boyfriend who was waiting with her parents at their home for her to come back from Target so they could go out. Planned to study pre-Veterianarian in college then become a Vet. Obviously loved animals. Grabbed in broad daylight in a Target store parking lot. Assaulted and murdered and body dumped. The All American girl brutalized and snuffed out by an All American scumbag loser psychopath.

It gets to me, WestCoastGal. It’s nearly more than I can stand.


283 posted on 06/07/2007 8:02:15 AM PDT by txrangerette (Congressman Duncan Hunter for POTUS...check him out!!)
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To: livius; rednesss

“So I don’t think you can make this a racial thing.”

Racists can make anything into “a racial thing”. It’s all they think about.


284 posted on 06/07/2007 8:12:54 AM PDT by monday
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To: txrangerette

Perp has a myspace page and a “friend” had accused him of murder before he was arrested according to kcmo newspaper.


285 posted on 06/07/2007 8:15:10 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (Arm Pilots&Teachers. Build the Wall. Export Illegals. Profile Muslims.Kill all child molesters RFN!)
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To: devolve

Why aren’t the Feds charging him under the Federal Kidnap/Murder statute that would allow for the death penalty? Just curious.


286 posted on 06/07/2007 8:19:22 AM PDT by BearCub
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To: txrangerette
Veterianarian
287 posted on 06/07/2007 8:26:29 AM PDT by txrangerette (Congressman Duncan Hunter for POTUS...check him out!!)
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To: Lijahsbubbe
I wish we would have sent them to self defense classes instead.

Two quick tips for women:

When grabbed around the throat, grab one of the attacker's fingers and pull back hard.

When grabbed from behind, bend your leg and then kick back hard against your attacker's knee or shin.

288 posted on 06/07/2007 8:28:21 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: BearCub; potlatch

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It’s early

Hall was just formally charged

Much to investigate yet


289 posted on 06/07/2007 8:48:33 AM PDT by devolve ( _Illegal_Aliens_Killed_25_Americans_Today _20_More_Than_Al-Qaeda_Did_ _Smoke_Gets_in_My_Eyes_)
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To: Aquinasfan

Good ones. I will definitely share them.


290 posted on 06/07/2007 8:52:13 AM PDT by Lijahsbubbe (President Bush - The Enabler)
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To: Aquinasfan
Two quick tips for women: When grabbed around the throat, grab one of the attacker's fingers and pull back hard. When grabbed from behind, bend your leg and then kick back hard against your attacker's knee or shin.

Those are excellent tips. Now, if society could only recognize the increasing number of pyschopaths (who oft times wear a mask of sanity and normalness) in their midst.

I pray this creep is the guilty party. If so, he's not very smart. Shopping center parking lots are always under surveillance.

291 posted on 06/07/2007 9:03:45 AM PDT by demnomo
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To: devolve
This is what Fox News shows;


292 posted on 06/07/2007 9:12:59 AM PDT by potlatch (MIZARU_ooo_()_ooo_MIKAZARU_ooo_()_ooo_MAZARU_ooo_()_ooo_))
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To: potlatch

Maybe it’s just my mind playing tricks on me...but that guy has Charlie Manson eyes. Creepy...absolutely creepy.


293 posted on 06/07/2007 9:14:59 AM PDT by demnomo
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To: monday

They do make GPS collars for pets that track their location and other useful data. Not sure of the range, though.


294 posted on 06/07/2007 9:20:59 AM PDT by halo66
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To: MAexile
I have a daughter just a few years younger. I’m thinking power tools.

I have 2 daughter one older, one younger than Kelsey. My oldest daughter graduated from the same high school 2 years ago.

But to your remark, power tools are too good for him. I'm thinking manual tools, rusty and dull. Power tools are too quick.

295 posted on 06/07/2007 9:24:51 AM PDT by Lurking in Kansas (Nothing witty here... move on.)
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To: saradippity

Oh yeah, throwing the keys is a great thing, if someone is trying to force you into your own car, or for you to drive them somewhere. Another trick taught me by a friend, is to always carry my keys so that they are in between each of my fingers, pointing out; kind of like brass knuckles, but spiky. May not hold anyone off, but might startle someone and hurt enough to loosen their grasp so you can get some distance away.


296 posted on 06/07/2007 9:30:24 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: halo66
“They do make GPS collars for pets that track their location and other useful data. Not sure of the range, though.”

Collars, obviously, would be useless against kidnappers. A few years ago an urban legend in Mexico caused kidnappers to cut up their victims in a pointless search for locater chips. They were too stupid to realize that no such technology had yet been invented.

Apparently the rumors started with news articles about chips implanted in employees that would grant them access to the companies facilities. A type of key less lock. The chips will not locate people, however, at least not yet. That would take an implantable GPS, an implantable Cell phone transmitter, and an implantable battery with a multi year useful life.

297 posted on 06/07/2007 10:03:24 AM PDT by monday
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To: demnomo

Yes he does, but I guess once you’ve killed someone like that you would have that ‘soul-less’ look.


298 posted on 06/07/2007 10:09:36 AM PDT by potlatch (MIZARU_ooo_()_ooo_MIKAZARU_ooo_()_ooo_MAZARU_ooo_()_ooo_))
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To: potlatch

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Thanks potlatch

FOX &/or the police mixed up booking #s &/or photos I guess

I imagine the other guy was booked for a parking ticket


299 posted on 06/07/2007 10:38:20 AM PDT by devolve ( _Illegal_Aliens_Killed_25_Americans_Today _20_More_Than_Al-Qaeda_Did_ _Smoke_Gets_in_My_Eyes_)
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To: potlatch

Reminds me of Elijah Wood’s character from Sin City.


300 posted on 06/07/2007 10:43:47 AM PDT by Sax
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