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Posted on 06/06/2007 12:15:24 PM PDT by BigBlueJon
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The more those of us go rural for raising our families this IMO will happen.
Some families have bad blood and it moves too.
Just look ate Cain and Abel, wheat field. : )
when/if we have a daughter. I want her to be born into the United States of America, not Saudi Arabia. Waering tank tops and shorts is not what is creating these perverts and loons.
Again, I do not advocate women or anyone dressing offensive or any kind of non-decent conduct.
but tank tops and shorts ? are you kidding me ? No going to the beach either I assume.
Stop putting the blame on innocent people and trying to appease the bad guys. It is like terrorism. Americans shouldnt change the way we live to suit them. When we catch these guys, they need put to death.. NUFF SAID
Thought it was a technique to remember.
I too am praying for the family and for her soul,what a cross to bear. May God hold them close.
Edwin Hall is from Olathe, Kansas. A tip from the public lead to his arrest. One witness saw headlights in the park around 9 PM, which is within the time line for Kelsey’s disappearance. Police have found Hall’s pickup truck which was also seen on a surveillance video at the Target shopping area. There should be a wealth of forensic evidence in this truck. The body of Kelsey Smith was found 20 miles east of the shopping area in near Grandview, Montana. Because the body was found so soon after the murder, there will be a wealth of fresh evidence available.
Police will release elements of their evidence that point to Hall’s arrest Thursday morning.
More info on this thread, plus photo:
Did not blame the victem.
Just said when if you have a daughter your views on modesty will change.
Young ladies can dress fashionalbe even at the beach but with modesty.
Why do you think street corner hookers dress the way they do?
They are selling a product.
Why don’t you see elderly woman dressing provocative?
It is not attractive and can be humorous.
Every see a young obese ladies wear low cut jeans and tight shirts? What runs through most mens mind?
Men are human and decent men can restraint fleeting thoughts.
Even not so decent men can restrain themselves.
Sick perverts which seem to becoming more pervasive in our culture/country do sick things.
Even to 80yr old woman.
IMO She was a target no matter what she wore.
But OTOH dressing without modesty no matter how innocent the thought behind it will attract mens eyes but as I said a major majority of men glance and move on.
Hugh Heffner did not become rich and famous for selling a magazine with modestly dressed woman.
And for as men taking off their shirt to play basketball, yes some women by human nature will take a look if he is toned and has a nice six pack.
I don’t like Fredrik Ljonberg because he is a great soccer/fotball player I like him because he is a great model for Calvin Klien underwear, well untill his last ad where they added a tall sexy blonde to the pic wrapping her body around him.
It’s human nature.
But to act on it and kill someone is evil.
At this point we don’t even know why the creep grabbed her and killed her may have nothing to do with sexuality could be he was had other motives for in his sick mind.
Congratulations on the upcoming wedding.
Have you already proposed and so that would make her a fiance.
If not hope she doesn't read this forum it will really squash that surprise of the special moment you do ask her.
I am proposing next week. :). I got the ring. the night is set up.
She does not read this site as far as I know.
I mean. She has been on FR. I told her about the site and she has read my profile. but I know she does not read it on a regular basis. She is not really into politics that much.
is what I meant to say.
You would all be wrong. Last night police arrestes Edwin Hall, a 26 year old local man, for the arrest. Sorry to disappoint you.
Not to pick knits but it's Grandview, Missouri.
Is that a mug shot? Where’s his dark hair which was clearly visible in the surveillance tape? Shaved his head to try looking less like the perp? There’s an Edwin K Hall age given as 51 in the Olathe - Shawnee Mission - Cottonwood KS area, easily popping up on the Search engines, but this guy didn’t appear in my search. Could be the father or an uncle...
Youre so right. Im sitting here with my 12 year old daughter showing her all the perverts in our neighborhood from the Watchdog.com site.
I do the same thing with my 12 year old. When I was 12 we had Son of Sam prowling around so I was crapping in my pants at the time!
They have the same address. One of them works or worked at Target, too.
I have no daughters, but my five nieces are all nearing that age. Before reaching for the 18v cordless drill, I'd begin with the "knotted rope" procedure seen in Casino Royale.
The Taliban agrees with you.
You need to quick taking drugs.
No the girl taken from Short Pump, Emily “Kate” Robertson.
great idea, and then practice with her, a very good father daughter bonding experience...well, it was for my dad and me
Oh, please, that’s not an argument. That’s the same as crying “Nazi.” I’m not for burkhas. Just a little class for once!
I’m sorry. It is Grandview, Missouri. The report abbreviated the state as Mo. Not being near a map, I assumed it meant Montana.
Our prayers and condolences go out to her family.
I hope they catch the scum who did this.
He’s in custody since last evening, and is to be charged with premeditated murder and aggravated kidnapping. See post 265. He lives in the area. He’s the guy in the surveillance video. Even while the cops were saying that didn’t have a suspect and were asking for more leads, they were already questionning this guy. Shortly after ending the questionning he was detained and the announcement was made late last night. They have his dark old pickup truck, too.
Thank you I missed the news until I posted that.
A very sad ending which is becoming all too frequent these days. Something has to be done to these predators to make them think twice before doing this. One good example as someone mentioned on the other thread used to work...hanging in the town square. Of course we are too “PC” these days and the trial will go on and on with excuse after excuse as to why he couldn’t help himself.
John Walsh AMW has said time and time again never let anyone put you in a car and take you someplace else because that usually ends in death........that’s easier said than done as in this case. Her father said she was a fighter and would not be taken easily.
I just can’t figure out why there are so many sexual predators out there these days.
I guess we will have to arm women and children with more defenses. I shop alone a lot of times, but always make sure no one is following me or near my car when I leave. Particularly vans which are used for snatch and grabs in parking lots. It is easy to think there’s safety in numbers at a shopping mall, but anything can happen anywhere.
Our daughters are grown now. I was just telling another Freeper who was on this thread, that we sent our daughters to dance classes for years, and how I wish we would have sent them to self defense classes instead.
er.... the chips in pets are only used for identifying the pet, not finding them. I think you are confused.
That’s all you can do.
If the world is getting violent, it might be well to look out for each other, travel in somewhat unassailable groups, don’t go to the mall alone unless you are the meanest sob in the valley.
Another girl similar to Kelsey has recently gone missing in the same area. I haven’t heard an update, but am reading FReeper comments that he could turn out to be the perp in that case, too.
I’ll say this much. Somebody in his circle of family and friends KNEW there was something wrong with him. I guarantee you. Now, did they KNOW he was a potential psycopathic murderer. Oh of course not...nobody who is close to someone like that EVER dares to predict such a thing. But you’ll notice that others, who come in contact with them or observe them over the years from when they are children to young adulthood will candidly tell you that when they find out they did something like this, THEY are not surprised.
I know from first hand, a criminal type I went to a private school with and rode the same school bus with and went to the same church as his family, whom I would’ve predicted would turn that way, later did indeed commit a serious, violent felony. And when I knew this guy would turn out this way, he was in the SIXTH grade.
People need to be educated about seeking some kind of intervention for young people who show the signs they are headed for serious deviancy.
Such a beautiful, vibrant girl. Seems to come from a good, close knit family. Graduated a few days ago. Had a nice boyfriend who was waiting with her parents at their home for her to come back from Target so they could go out. Planned to study pre-Veterianarian in college then become a Vet. Obviously loved animals. Grabbed in broad daylight in a Target store parking lot. Assaulted and murdered and body dumped. The All American girl brutalized and snuffed out by an All American scumbag loser psychopath.
It gets to me, WestCoastGal. It’s nearly more than I can stand.
“So I dont think you can make this a racial thing.”
Racists can make anything into “a racial thing”. It’s all they think about.
Perp has a myspace page and a “friend” had accused him of murder before he was arrested according to kcmo newspaper.
Why aren’t the Feds charging him under the Federal Kidnap/Murder statute that would allow for the death penalty? Just curious.
Two quick tips for women:
When grabbed around the throat, grab one of the attacker's fingers and pull back hard.
When grabbed from behind, bend your leg and then kick back hard against your attacker's knee or shin.
Hall was just formally charged
Much to investigate yet
Good ones. I will definitely share them.
Those are excellent tips. Now, if society could only recognize the increasing number of pyschopaths (who oft times wear a mask of sanity and normalness) in their midst.
I pray this creep is the guilty party. If so, he's not very smart. Shopping center parking lots are always under surveillance.
Maybe it’s just my mind playing tricks on me...but that guy has Charlie Manson eyes. Creepy...absolutely creepy.
They do make GPS collars for pets that track their location and other useful data. Not sure of the range, though.
I have 2 daughter one older, one younger than Kelsey. My oldest daughter graduated from the same high school 2 years ago.
But to your remark, power tools are too good for him. I'm thinking manual tools, rusty and dull. Power tools are too quick.
Oh yeah, throwing the keys is a great thing, if someone is trying to force you into your own car, or for you to drive them somewhere. Another trick taught me by a friend, is to always carry my keys so that they are in between each of my fingers, pointing out; kind of like brass knuckles, but spiky. May not hold anyone off, but might startle someone and hurt enough to loosen their grasp so you can get some distance away.
Collars, obviously, would be useless against kidnappers. A few years ago an urban legend in Mexico caused kidnappers to cut up their victims in a pointless search for locater chips. They were too stupid to realize that no such technology had yet been invented.
Apparently the rumors started with news articles about chips implanted in employees that would grant them access to the companies facilities. A type of key less lock. The chips will not locate people, however, at least not yet. That would take an implantable GPS, an implantable Cell phone transmitter, and an implantable battery with a multi year useful life.
Yes he does, but I guess once you’ve killed someone like that you would have that ‘soul-less’ look.
FOX &/or the police mixed up booking #s &/or photos I guess
I imagine the other guy was booked for a parking ticket
Reminds me of Elijah Wood’s character from Sin City.
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