Posted on 06/06/2007 1:10:06 PM PDT by bnelson44
In a simple German Russian grudge match. Germany would have won the belt easily, However if the Germans still had Italy as an ally it would definitely have been a toss-up.
A German General summed it up best:
"Fighting the Russians is like an elephant fighting a bunch of ants. The elephant may kill millions of ants, but in the end the ants will prevail and eat the elephant down to the bone."
I am not a hater. I’ve never hated another person in my entire life; yet I find myself coming to hate the media as a collective.
Spoiled, rich, not very smart, socialist to the core...turn off your tv sets, listen to Rush, read the news here, boycott, boycott, boycott.
Most likely the headline would read: “Invasion Of Europe Begins - 370 Civilians Killed So Far”
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I don’t think the media would have had too much to report on DDay, as they would’ve been too chicken to get in
those boats and hit the beach. It would never have got
to DDay, if the President, Military had not had a plan
that was top secret until the day it happened...Media
or no media. JK
We weren't attacked by France, we were attacked by Japan. Why are we going into France?
Thousands more American and allied soldiers were killed today in the D-day assault. It's time to cut our losses.
The war is lost.
Truman guilty of war crimes for ordering the attacks on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Sound familiar?
I have no doubt that the scum-media of today would have been charged with sedition and treason. And if not, the populance would not have tolerated them.
And Private Slovik would be held up as the modern day Cindy Sheehan.
... and if it was secret and somehow the NYT got a hold of it the Germans would know about it next day .....
("What if" in History - No. 3) June 1, 1944: NEW YORK TIMES breaks OPERATION OVERLORD
DFU "what if" in history | June 1, 1944 | Jonathon Risen (fictitious name)
Posted on 12/26/2005 7:15:58 PM PST by doug from upland
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Jonathon Risen, New York Times
Dateline: France
June 1, 1944
The NEW YORK TIMES, always first with breaking news, has discovered that a daring invasion is planned on the coast of France on June 5 in an effort to liberate the courageous and valiant French citizens from the Nazis. If the weather conditions are not right, we have learned that Gen. Dwight Eisenhower may delay the invasion for a day.
OPERATION OVERLORD will be a massive Allied invasion of Western Europe that will include simultaneous landings on five beachheads by U.S., British, and Canadian forces.
When Eisenhower's chief meteorologist, James Martin Stagg, informs the general of a break in the weather, Eisenhower will announce -- “O.K. We'll go.”
Within hours of the decision to go, an armada of 3,000 landing craft, 2,500 other ships, and 500 naval vessels--escorts and bombardment ships--will began to leave English ports. At night, 822 aircraft, carrying parachutists or towing gliders, will roar overhead to the Normandy landing zones. They will be just a fraction of the air armada of 13,000 aircraft that will support "D-Day."
The largest of the D-Day assault areas, Omaha Beach, stretches over 10 km (6 miles) between the fishing port of Port-en-Bessin on the east and the mouth of the Vire River on the west. The western third of the beach is backed by a seawall 3 metres (10 feet) high, and the whole beach is overlooked by cliffs 30 metres high.
Utah Beach is the westernmost beach of the planned five landing areas. It will be assaulted by elements of the U.S. 4th Infantry Division. In the pre-dawn hours, units of the 82nd and 101st airborne division will be airdropped inland from the landing beach. Their plan is to isolate the seaborned invasion force from defending German units.
Sword Beach is the easternmost beach of the five landing areas of the planned invasion. It will be assaulted by units of the British 3rd Division, with French and British commandos attached. Shortly after midnight on D-Day morning, elements of the 6th Airborne Division will launch a daring glider-borne assault, hoping to seize bridges inland from the beach and also silence artillery pieces that could threaten the seaborne landing forces.
H-Hour (the time the first assault wave is to land) at Gold Beach is set for 0725 hours, one hour later than the scheduled landings on the American beaches owing to the direction of the tide, which move from west to east and bring high water later to the British beach.
Juno Beach is the second beach from the east among the five landing areas of the invasion. The Canadian 3rd Infantry Division will invade Juno Beach.
Sources have told us that this invasion could be the beginning of the end for the Nazis. Although TIMES editors held a meeting to discuss whether this information should be reported, it was decided unanimously that it is news and our first obligation is to journalism and reporting the story. We do hope, of course, that Allied casualties are kept to a minimum.
Count on the NEW YORK TIMES for all your war coverage. If it's news, we will have it first.
Probably. But considering how well armed Americans were then, and still are really, there would have been a whole lot of dead "SS" and Japs. We'd probably still be fighting in the hills and mountains. "A rifle behind every blade of grass" is how Japanese Admiral Yamamoto is reputed to have described it.
Oh worse than that.
Allied Forces Kill Large Numbers of French Civilians
And they did too. To the cheers of most Frenchmen.
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