Skip to comments.Police: Arrest Made In Kelsey Smith Homicide
Posted on 06/06/2007 9:53:32 PM PDT by peggybac
OVERLAND PARK, Kan. -- An arrest has been made in the homicide investigation of 18-year-old Kelsey Smith.
Late Wednesday night, police said Edwin R. Hall, 26, of Olathe, was being held in the Johnson County Jail in connection with the slaying of Smith.
Law enforcement crews combing a large wooded area near Longview Lake Wednesday found a body believed to be missing teenager Kelsey Smith, who was abducted from an Overland Park Target store parking lot Saturday night.
Overland Park Police Chief John Douglass said Smith's body was found about 1:30 p.m. across the state line near Grandview, Mo., about 20 miles east of the abduction site.
Positive identification was pending, but Douglass said volunteer searchers could stop their work. He did not say how the woman was slain, but KMBC reported that there were signs of trauma to the body.
"As I understand she was found at a wooded area, but I can't say whether she was directly concealed by bushes," Douglass told reporters during an afternoon news conference.
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You’re right about the myspace. That guy looks a lot older than the pic they just showed.
The eyebrows, sad eyes, and face shape look very similar to the composite of the suspect in the other girl’s disappearance. Yowza!
Can someone post the photo and composite side-by-side?
His eyes look dead. No soul.
OMG! That new photo is the creepiest thing, I can’t even look at it. Scary as all heck!
That broad forehead he has would make for a nice target...
Depends on how you want to kill him.
You have the Short Drop, your preferred method.
You have your Standard Drop:
The standard drop, involves a drop of between four to six feet. It was considered an advance on the short drop because it was intended to be sufficient to break the person's neck, causing immediate paralysis and immobilization (and perhaps immediate unconsciousness).
Then we have the Long drop:
This process, also known as the measured drop, was introduced in 1872 by William Marwood. More scientific than the other two. Instead of everyone falling the same standard distance, the person's weight was used to determine how much slack would be provided in the rope so that the distance dropped would be enough to ensure that the neck was broken. Prior to 1892, the drop was between four and ten feet, depending on the weight of the body, and was calculated to deliver a force of 1,260 lbf, which fractured the neck at either the 2nd and 3rd or 4th and 5th cervical vertebrae. However, this force resulted in some decapitations.
I would be curious what a person is supposed to do in her situation. She had put her bags into the back of the car and was getting in her car when this guy came running at her and shoved her. I don’t think she had a chance to kick or respond at all. There was no struggle. He just shoved, jumped in and took off.
I have two small girls and can barely breathe when I think about this. I’ve had to turn our talk radio off because I can’t bare to listen to it anymore.
thx for the pic but that doesn’t like at all like the video guy.
More like it....the other photo looked like Michael Stipe.
Yes, I believe I posted it to you first - on another thread!
I’ll go look!
Rape - Women murdered -
Sounds like the Arkasas Mafia Days
Ah Haa, you missed mine!
I just saw it and replied
Great posts....I have a feeling that since grandview is in jackson county (the same county as kcmo), it would hit the city. This looks like it’s going to become a federal case (I’m guessing) because he took her across state line.
If you think about it, in a case like this the death penalty is incredibly merciful and humane compared to what he deserves. In fact I think there is no kind of torture no matter how sadistic or extreme that would in any way be adequate punishment.
The horror of this poor girls last minutes alive is simply inconceivable. The pure evil that could do such a thing is icomprehesible.
No punishment we could devise would be adequate. If there were even the smallest amount of justice in the world this
creature would not have another second of life that was not filled with intense excruciating pain.
I know they used photo enhancement of the video at target...but wow, the enhancement didn’t give me a very good impression on what I thought he would look like. Too bad the videos had to be black and white.
I don’t mean to say anything about her personally. Just that we can know, we can plan, we can intend, and in the event all of that may not do us any good. I’m sick too.
2 more photos of killer:
Pics & information found here: (his wife is a "witness" and according to someone, he apparently has a young son)
“My girls are in college now but I still worry about them as much as I did when they were five. Will that level of concern ever subside?”
NO! My daughter is 27 and married, and I still worry about her! I think I worried more when she became a teen and more independent because I couldn’t watch over her like I did when she was little. My daughter was a good student and a good girl. I guess I worried about what might happen to her, like this poor girl. My grandma said that when your children are little, you have little worries; when your children get big, you have big worries. She was right!
I pray a lot!
See my #124, (i think,) more info.
That’s true about his walk.
I thought for sure he was going to be around 18-21yrs.
thanks for the info and link.
My friends and I were speculating as to whether he may have knocked her out when he shoved her in the car. Her friends (or family, not sure which) said she wouldn’t have gone without a fight. I guess we’ll find out when the “details” are revealed.
He looks fricken’ stoned in both photos. Soused and mean.
Neighbors reportedly are shocked, they were a “nice seeming little family” that didn’t cause trouble. I wonder what his wife will have to say.
I can think of two issues that need to be addressed.
The first is situational awareness. Color-coding is used to describe the degree of mental awareness that one is exercising with respect to their surroundings and possible threats. "Condition White", I believe, describes a person who is completely distracted by their own activities and wouldn't notice an attacker waiting nearby for an opportunity to pounce.
The second issue is that people need to act on the information that they get when they ARE aware of a potential threat. People will fail to act on a threat because they fear giving offense, being rude, or are embarrassed by their own, possibly mistaken, assessment of risk.
If the attacked girl had observed her surroundings carefully before unlocking her car, she might have spotted the attacker. He might just have been "loitering" without apparent cause, but that should be enough to cause the girl to take some evasive action.
As another poster commented, she could have thrown her car keys away from her so that her own car could not be used to abduct her. The distance to the attacker's car then becomes critical ground on which she needs to fight.
You’re welcome! :)
Your Fears: Snakes Spiders and Rape
Does everyone have a MySpace? Geez.
I don’t have one, don’t need one, don’t want one.
That’s great, but in my daughter’s case I know that there are two registered sex offenders living in the mobile home park where she and her family live. One is just 6 mobile homes down from hers.
Last night I checked out familywatchdog.us and discovered 15 more living within a 2 miles radius and 3 in the little bitty town where the babysitter lives.
I think I’ll continue to remind her from time to time....as usual.
Teach them to yell “Kidnapper”. Otherwise people will turn their heads
thinking it’s a family issue.
I think that’s a very good idea...
Yeah, I found his wife’s site too. Geez, these kids are way to o personal online.
KILLER’S MY Space Page
KILLERS MY Space
Links not working
Anything interesting there?
His myspace address
dont ask me why they call him Jack
Is her page still up? I thought I had found it, based on her name in the witness list via the site you linked to ( the blog that linked to the photos you posted).
Does it now have the quote “if you can’t be a good example, you’ll just have to be a terrible warning”?
Or am I looking at the wrong myspace page?
His Wife’s my Space Page , She says her biggest fear is getting raped , snakes , & Spiders .
The Killers Favorite Movie is Clockwork Orange .
The Killer States he like to kill animals , etc...
I’m scared to go there, LOL!
The link isn’t working but if you go to the CourtV Forums Under Kelsey Smith Killer Arrested the myspace links work there ....
Never mind, sorry to bother... I found her real page now.
our society is stealing childhood and now its stealing away the joy, passion, ambition for teenagers...the very things we LIKE about them.....
why don't we put all the creeps away first and let the innocents have their day in the sun....
Would you mind posting the link to the wife’s myspace page? I checked courttv but couldn’t find the link...any help would be appreciated.