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Police: Arrest Made In Kelsey Smith Homicide
Kansas City Channel ^ | 6/6/07

Posted on 06/06/2007 9:53:32 PM PDT by peggybac

OVERLAND PARK, Kan. -- An arrest has been made in the homicide investigation of 18-year-old Kelsey Smith.

Late Wednesday night, police said Edwin R. Hall, 26, of Olathe, was being held in the Johnson County Jail in connection with the slaying of Smith.

Law enforcement crews combing a large wooded area near Longview Lake Wednesday found a body believed to be missing teenager Kelsey Smith, who was abducted from an Overland Park Target store parking lot Saturday night.

Overland Park Police Chief John Douglass said Smith's body was found about 1:30 p.m. across the state line near Grandview, Mo., about 20 miles east of the abduction site.

Positive identification was pending, but Douglass said volunteer searchers could stop their work. He did not say how the woman was slain, but KMBC reported that there were signs of trauma to the body.

"As I understand she was found at a wooded area, but I can't say whether she was directly concealed by bushes," Douglass told reporters during an afternoon news conference.

(Excerpt) Read more at thekansascitychannel.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Kansas; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: edwinhall; kansas; kelseysmith
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To: cherry

Because liberals are evil.


151 posted on 06/07/2007 12:42:28 PM PDT by ichabod1 ("Liberals read Karl Marx. Conservatives UNDERSTAND Karl Marx." Ronald Reagan)
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To: billygoatgruff

Or Andre Agassi.


152 posted on 06/07/2007 12:44:29 PM PDT by ichabod1 ("Liberals read Karl Marx. Conservatives UNDERSTAND Karl Marx." Ronald Reagan)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

If you click on the link a freeper posted in the bottom of comment 124 ,

the link shows another link to the Killers myspace page . Once your on the Killer’s my space page click the picture of Aletha (Le) that’s his wife , & it’ll show her my space page


153 posted on 06/07/2007 1:19:15 PM PDT by DvdMom (Impeach Nifong -)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

Aletha (Le)

Female
25 years old
Olathe, Kansas
United States

You Can maybe search myspace with the above info....


154 posted on 06/07/2007 1:21:57 PM PDT by DvdMom (Impeach Nifong -)
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To: Abigail Adams

GOTTA ASK YOU, DID YOU EVER SEE YOUR HUSBANDS PROFILE??? THIS IS HIS URL:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=97922785

General eating small children and harming small animals, or maby ua reaing and ua painting photography is cool, want to own my own company someday
Music Lacuna Coil, H.I.M, And a lot of trendy EMO bands, (No not really)
Movies anything that pushes the envalope, A clockwork Orange, Srangeland and lets not forget horror movies!!!! yea scary (or cheesy)like both
Television Lost Dead like me and eureka is cool
Books House of leaves- daniel Z. The Dark Tower Series- Kingand also Koontz , Lovecraft all the greats. o yea also the telaphone book, (its a page turner!!!)
Heroes Batman, and my dad (The bastard)
_________________________________________________________

I am not sure your his wife as you commented on his picture with his son...If you are his wife, didn’t you find it freaky he would write these kinds of things?
If this is your son you need to move far away and never tell that boy about this freak except that he was hit by a train and his name was Johnny

The above was posted on the killers wife myspace page

alot of users are writing messages to the killers wife


155 posted on 06/07/2007 1:27:01 PM PDT by DvdMom (Impeach Nifong -)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

My Post 155 has a link that seems to be working which takes you to the Killer’s my space page . His wife is in his friend column under Aletha


156 posted on 06/07/2007 1:29:21 PM PDT by DvdMom (Impeach Nifong -)
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To: DvdMom

Neighbors told KMBC’s Jere Gish that Hall moved into a home on Lincoln Street in Olathe about six months ago with his wife and 4-year-old son. People knew him as Jack.

Edwin Roy Hall

“(He was) just your normal, average guy. (He) liked to work on cars and goof around on motorcycles and lawnmowers,” neighbor Cameron Migues said.

Migues lived next door to Hall. Migues said he talked to him several times a week, and their children played together.

Migues said that his wife then saw the surveillance picture that police had released of the person of interest in the Smith case.

“She looked at the pictures and said, ‘That looks like our neighbor.’ We both kind of laughed it off at first, and then when I saw the pictures of the truck. I was, like, well?” Migues said.

Gish reported that Hall owned a pickup truck like the one police had been searching for.

Migues said he called authorities Wednesday morning.

“I called the TIPS Hotline and gave them the information, and a couple of hours later, there were police officers sitting here watching the house,” Migues said.

Police have been in the neighborhood since Hall’s arrest, Gish reported.

“I was shocked. I was shocked,” neighbor Tersa Dart said.

Dart lives across the street from Hall.

“He didn’t really speak to anyone or say anything to anyone. We didn’t know him well,” Dart said.

Dart said she was surprised by Hall’s arrest.

“He has a kid, so I didn’t think he’d be capable of doing anything like that,” Dart said.

A MySpace.com page that purportedly is Hall’s, shows a picture of him with the name Jack and describes him as a “sweet troubled soul.”

A list under Jack’s general interests includes, “eating small children and harming small animals.”

Hall is being held in jail on $5 million bond.


157 posted on 06/07/2007 1:40:14 PM PDT by DvdMom (Impeach Nifong -)
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To: DvdMom; All
From his wife's myspace, she says:

"I moved back to Olathe then back to Wichita then back to Olathe then to Walthill NE then Souix City IA then back to Olathe then to south KCMO and now back in Olathe. I also moved to different places within the towns I lived in."

I hope that they're looing at ALL missing young girls in all of those places since they lived together in those towns and states....Kansas, Missouri, Nebraska, IA, and "different places within the towns!"

158 posted on 06/07/2007 1:50:18 PM PDT by IamHD
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp

Evidently, the jocosheriff.org booking report section posted the wrong photo late last night, as that’s where the one came from that I posted.

It wasn’t making sense to me, either, because he looked nothing like the video, but I didn’t know if the video person had dark hair or was wearing a cap.

When I saw it again today, they had another angle and I could see it was hair - so I was glad to come to FR now and see the (much ickier) real booking photo they evidently switched out today.

Oh, well. I thought the info I found in KS unclaimed property for a paycheck to him from Target was really interesting. I saw just now on TV where they quoted it.


159 posted on 06/07/2007 1:51:20 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: DvdMom
I wonder if he chose the name "jack" on purpose as a reference to the old folk tune "Jack Hall" about the British chimney sweep hanged for his crimes, or if that's just a creepy coincidence.

Oh my name it is Jack Hall,
Chimney sweep, chimney sweep,
Oh my name it is Jack Hall, chimney sweep.
Oh my name it is Jack Hall,
And I've robb'd both great and small,
And my neck shall pay for all
When I die, when I die,
And my neck shall pay for all when I die.

I have twenty pounds in store,
that's no joke, that's no joke,
I have twenty pounds in store, that's no joke.
I have twenty pounds in store
And I'll rob for twenty more,
And my neck shall pay for all
When I die, when I die,
And my neck shall pay for all when I die.

O they tell me that in goal
I shall die, I shall die
O they tell me that in goal, I shall die.
O they tell me that in goal
I shall drink no more brown ale,
But be dash'd if ever I fail
Til I die, til I die
But be dash'd if ever I fail till I die.

O I rode up Tyburn Hill
In a cart, in a cart
O I rode up Tyburn Hill in a cart.
O I rode up Tyburn Hill,
and 'twas there I made my will,
Saying, "The best of friends must part,
So, farewell, so, farewell."
Saying, "The best of friends must part
So, farewell."

Up the ladder I did grope,
that's no joke, that's no joke
Up the ladder I did grope, that's no joke.
Up the ladder I did grope,
and the hangman spread the rope,
O but never a word said I,
coming down, coming down,
O never a word said I coming down.

160 posted on 06/07/2007 2:16:28 PM PDT by SarahW
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To: dragnet2

Nancy Grace on CNN? MSNBC, (whatever channel she’s on), was talking to some cops last night and they said Kelsey had had a website up on that MySpace.com, or whatever where teenagers gather. She may have revealed too much information, like what town she lived in, her last name, etc. Kids think they’re immortal, and those websites are haunted by truly evil predators.


161 posted on 06/07/2007 2:20:55 PM PDT by hershey
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To: IamHD

Possible link to Kelsey - Kara Kopetsky???
http://tinyurl.com/2yfw5r

Kara Kopetsky who is thin , brown hair , brown eyes was kidnapped too....

The police picture of the person who was last seem with Kara looks alot like Kelsey’s Killer !


162 posted on 06/07/2007 2:36:05 PM PDT by DvdMom (Impeach Nifong -)
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To: SarahW

You Could Be 100 Correct !


163 posted on 06/07/2007 2:36:58 PM PDT by DvdMom (Impeach Nifong -)
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To: DvdMom
I noticed he also refers to himself on his myspace page as a "Sweet Troubled Soul". There is a very popular song with that title.

Again, a good chance of mere coincidence, but as long as I am posting song lyrics like a fool, I might as well link to those lyrics too. The "stab" part kind of bugs me.

164 posted on 06/07/2007 2:52:47 PM PDT by SarahW
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To: DvdMom
What are the odds that Kelsey Smith is the first young girl that Edwin Hall has murdered? He was BOLD, (broad daylight) SCARY and it appeared he knew exactly how to do what he did. You just never know, he could be the next Ted Bundy.

These predators need to be put down the 1st time caught and leave our children alone!

165 posted on 06/07/2007 3:01:16 PM PDT by IamHD
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To: IamHD

I know! I was reading his wife’s page and was really struck by how much they’ve moved around. Bet there’s a reason!

Also struck by how “normal” his wife sounds in her writings.


166 posted on 06/07/2007 3:03:41 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: SarahW
Very possible! He liked to write poetry:

Blog

Look at the comments to his blog, too.

167 posted on 06/07/2007 3:04:15 PM PDT by IamHD
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To: Rte66
"Bet there’s a reason!"

I was thinking the same thing that you're thinking.

168 posted on 06/07/2007 3:07:16 PM PDT by IamHD
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To: IM2MAD

I agree, I told my girls long ago to throw those keys as far as they could, even if he knocks you in the car try to drop them on the ground or throw them in the back seat. Anything! Just fight for time. Another thing that needs to be mentioned is for young women, and maybe older ones also, to be alert while shopping. Make a point of entering several stores or several different departments before you exit, not to shop, but to verify no one is following you. If you pay attention it is very easy to identify a stalker. DO NOT leave the safety of the mall or shopping center if you identify such, call the police and wait for an officer to show up. You might even catch one of these creeps and save some young woman’s life!


169 posted on 06/07/2007 3:14:28 PM PDT by pepperdog
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To: William Tell

Again, I’m not trying to be a pest. I am looking for real answers here. Let’s say the guy was hiding behind a car near her. Her dad was a cop so I am assuming that she was taught to be aware. She doesn’t notice anything, is getting into her car (no reason for her to throw her keys away at this point) and the guy jumps out from behind her (she still wouldn’t see him) and shoves her from behind. She maybe had 2 seconds of awareness before he possibly knocked her out. She was in broad daylight! I guess I’m just not sure that there was anything she could have done to prevent this.

The guy they charged has a wife and little girl. No one suspected anything. It just makes my skin crawl.


170 posted on 06/07/2007 3:19:59 PM PDT by samiam1972 (http://imrunningforpresident.blogspot.com/)
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To: samiam1972
samiam1972 said: "She was in broad daylight! I guess I’m just not sure that there was anything she could have done to prevent this."

Bad things happen to good people all the time.

Just as fastening a seat belt is not a guarantee of surviving a vehicle accident, so too exercising awareness will not defeat every attack.

As for the keys; if an attacker is forcing you into your car, it would be best that nobody be able to drive that car. It only takes a fraction of a second to toss the keys. It creates a significant burden on the attacker if the intention is to use the car.

The statistics of abduction seem to indicate quite clearly that there is virtually no price too high to pay in order to prevent being transported from the scene of the abduction. Anything bad that is going to happen will not be improved by allowing the attacker the freedom to choose the site for continuing the attack.

171 posted on 06/07/2007 3:39:10 PM PDT by William Tell (RKBA for California (rkba.members.sonic.net) - Volunteer by contacting Dave at rkba@sonic.net)
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To: William Tell

That makes sense with the keys. I guess I am just showing the lack of my ability to defend myself in an instance such as this. Maybe I’ll take a self defense class with my daughter. She’s still pretty young but it wouldn’t hurt to start.


172 posted on 06/07/2007 3:59:48 PM PDT by samiam1972 (http://imrunningforpresident.blogspot.com/)
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To: Rte66

His Wife just made her myspace private !


173 posted on 06/07/2007 4:30:21 PM PDT by DvdMom (Impeach Nifong -)
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To: SarahW

That makes alot of sense . The Killer’s Wife just made her myspace Private !


174 posted on 06/07/2007 4:31:24 PM PDT by DvdMom (Impeach Nifong -)
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To: IamHD

I Hope someone made a screenshot of the Killer’s wife myspace page , she just made it private . Where they lived before may help more missing children !


175 posted on 06/07/2007 4:32:34 PM PDT by DvdMom (Impeach Nifong -)
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To: IamHD

www.findkarakopetsky.com

BELTON, Mo. - Overland Park investigators said they were not ruling out a possible connection between the abduction and murder of Kelsey Smith and a missing teen from Cass County.

Kara Kopetsky, 17, was last seen on May 4th.

Overland Park Police Chief John Douglass said they were investigating all possible angles of the case and would provide Belton Police with any necessary resources.

A web site has been launched to assist in efforts to find Kopetsky.

http://www.kctv5.com/Global/category.asp?C=5539&nav=menu101_1

Posted by Trenton Duckett ~Missing ~ 08/27/06 on Thursday, June 07, 2007 at 2:42 PM


176 posted on 06/07/2007 4:36:32 PM PDT by DvdMom (Impeach Nifong -)
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To: Halls

Missing Teen Found Dead Ping


177 posted on 06/07/2007 4:37:31 PM PDT by DvdMom (Impeach Nifong -)
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To: DvdMom

thanks for the ping. I have been on this for a few days now watching and it is so sad to see this beautiful child just taken like this. I hope they put to death the man who did this. He looks like one scary fella!


178 posted on 06/07/2007 4:42:14 PM PDT by Halls (check out my profile and it will explain everything!(Vote for someone who will seal our borders!))
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To: Rte66

this is not the guy. This pic is the wrong one of Hall.


179 posted on 06/07/2007 4:49:51 PM PDT by Halls (check out my profile and it will explain everything!(Vote for someone who will seal our borders!))
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To: Halls

The Killer’s Wife Just Made Her My Space Private , & Did The Same With Her Husband The Killer .

The Killer Words Are Written Below .

He May Have Killed Another Missing Teen Kara .

Both Missing Girl’s Have Family who work in law enforcement Too !

Kara was last seen in a restaurant with a guy who looks just like the one who was arrested too !

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=97922785

General eating small children and harming small animals, or maby ua reaing and ua painting photography is cool, want to own my own company someday
Music Lacuna Coil, H.I.M, And a lot of trendy EMO bands, (No not really)
Movies anything that pushes the envalope, A clockwork Orange, Srangeland and lets not forget horror movies!!!! yea scary (or cheesy)like both
Television Lost Dead like me and eureka is cool
Books House of leaves- daniel Z. The Dark Tower Series- Kingand also Koontz , Lovecraft all the greats. o yea also the telaphone book, (its a page turner!!!)
Heroes Batman, and my dad (The bastard)


180 posted on 06/07/2007 4:59:13 PM PDT by DvdMom (Impeach Nifong -)
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To: DvdMom

Well now his my space page is cleaned up and is without the graphics and comments and blogs. I saw his wife online about 30 min ago making her profile private. She much have altered his too.


181 posted on 06/07/2007 5:02:40 PM PDT by DvdMom (Impeach Nifong -)
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To: DvdMom

I think she deleted her husband’s account. It’s totally gone and invalid.


182 posted on 06/07/2007 5:06:14 PM PDT by IamHD
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To: DvdMom
This person saved it: Just-cara
183 posted on 06/07/2007 5:16:40 PM PDT by IamHD
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To: Rte66
I was struck by how devoted she was to her husband. I saw she listed Egypt as the country she would most like to visit. I can't see why, she had denial right here. (sorry for that, folks.)
184 posted on 06/07/2007 5:20:41 PM PDT by SarahW
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To: DvdMom
Guy seen with KaraKelsey's killer
185 posted on 06/07/2007 5:29:53 PM PDT by IamHD
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To: DvdMom

her myspace said she was mostly afraid of rape over anything else. Gotta wonder!


186 posted on 06/07/2007 5:30:14 PM PDT by Halls (check out my profile and it will explain everything!(Vote for someone who will seal our borders!))
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To: IamHD

IMO, this is pretty close and I hope the authorities are really looking at this lead.


187 posted on 06/07/2007 5:31:21 PM PDT by Halls (check out my profile and it will explain everything!(Vote for someone who will seal our borders!))
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To: devolve; Rte66
That looks a lot different than the pic I've seen in some of the news stories... Is that an old mug shot and the one in the papers a new one, or vice versa do you suppose? There is also a picture from his MySpace page that a MySpace blogger has put up...

The following page also has information up about the Kopetsky case including the police sketches... http://blog.myspace.com/alonzo_washington
188 posted on 06/07/2007 5:31:40 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (Liberty Rocks Blog: http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com)
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To: IamHD

WOW !

I’m Speechless !


189 posted on 06/07/2007 5:36:12 PM PDT by DvdMom (Impeach Nifong -)
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To: DvdMom; Halls

They really do look very similar, don’t they? So, one is a drawing, but look at the eyebrows, eyes, nose, hairline,....really close.


190 posted on 06/07/2007 5:38:06 PM PDT by IamHD
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To: Halls

Yes , The Killer’s wife says that she Most fears Rape ...

Kelsey looks like an Angel , & I Wish Her Family The Best !

I heard Kelsey Dad On Greta Yesterday , & I Just Cried !

Kelsey has a Wonderful Family , & this is just so heartbreaking !


191 posted on 06/07/2007 5:40:14 PM PDT by DvdMom (Impeach Nifong -)
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To: Halls

Shawn’s Parents Tried To Find Kelsey Too :) .....

The parents of a teen missing from eastern Missouri for more than four years traveled to the Metro to help search for Kelsey Smith. Now Shawn Hornbeck’s parents’ mission is to support the Smith family.

Hornbeck’s parents, Craig and Pam Akers, said they came to the Metro to help organize the volunteers searching for Kelsey.

“Wanting to give them the message of hope and now that hope just went out the window,” Pam Akers said.

The Akers were working on a meeting with Kelsey’s parents, when police announced they found Kelsey’s body”


192 posted on 06/07/2007 5:45:50 PM PDT by DvdMom (Impeach Nifong -)
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To: IamHD

Yes , That Is So Very Close !

My Gut tells me he did take Kara , & That’s why he was so Sure of himself with taking Kelsey in broad daylight !


193 posted on 06/07/2007 5:47:48 PM PDT by DvdMom (Impeach Nifong -)
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To: pepperdog

Please also advise all women & girls to be alert WHILE SHOPPING!

I was assaulted by a guy in a major discount department store, in a large city, on a Saturday at approximately 5:00 P.M. Luckily, I had taken self-defense and was able to break the guy’s hold on me. (I was looking at something on a shelf when he came around the corner and grabbed me). Upon seeing he was the same height/weight as me I gave chase and tackled him.

With hundreds if not thousands of people in the store it still took about 3 minutes of my yelling for help (I had the perp on the ground and was losing strength) before an older man accepted the “challenge” to help me.

The guy broke away from him and my attacker literally ran past HUNDREDS in line at the checkouts all the while I was yelling, chasing after him, STOP HIM... He got away, but an alert employee who worked by the door managed to get the guy’s bike out from under him as he tried to get away (yes, on a bicycle)...


194 posted on 06/07/2007 5:51:38 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (Liberty Rocks Blog: http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com)
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To: DvdMom; All
Kelsey Smith was a Christian...RIP sweet child.

Kelsey's myspace

Kelsey's Xanga

195 posted on 06/07/2007 5:58:52 PM PDT by IamHD
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To: samiam1972

Self-defense is a very good idea. I took a self-defense class as a teenager and I remembered enough over 15 years later to turn the tables on my would-be attacker. It was like an instinct, and it shocked even me that I knew what to do... Shocked him even more! (o:


196 posted on 06/07/2007 6:04:09 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (Liberty Rocks Blog: http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com)
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To: LibertyRocks

Good Grief! I was only stalked, but it was terribly frightening. Fortunately I was with a man, I had left his presence to shop throughout the mall. When I realized what was happening I hurried back to our meeting place. Would you believe that when I came out of the store with my escort the guy was standing there brazenly staring at me! It gave me the shivers.


197 posted on 06/07/2007 6:15:13 PM PDT by pepperdog
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To: cherry

No, he apparently doesn’t. He’s married with a four year old child.


198 posted on 06/07/2007 6:15:46 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: Pining_4_TX

I heard he didn’t have a history, at least that’s what I heard on Fox tonight. But, media have been known not to have the facts.


199 posted on 06/07/2007 6:16:41 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: Pining_4_TX

I heard he didn’t have a history, at least that’s what I heard on Fox tonight. But, media have been known not to have the facts.


200 posted on 06/07/2007 6:18:18 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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