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Police: Arrest Made In Kelsey Smith Homicide
Kansas City Channel ^ | 6/6/07

Posted on 06/06/2007 9:53:32 PM PDT by peggybac

OVERLAND PARK, Kan. -- An arrest has been made in the homicide investigation of 18-year-old Kelsey Smith.

Late Wednesday night, police said Edwin R. Hall, 26, of Olathe, was being held in the Johnson County Jail in connection with the slaying of Smith.

Law enforcement crews combing a large wooded area near Longview Lake Wednesday found a body believed to be missing teenager Kelsey Smith, who was abducted from an Overland Park Target store parking lot Saturday night.

Overland Park Police Chief John Douglass said Smith's body was found about 1:30 p.m. across the state line near Grandview, Mo., about 20 miles east of the abduction site.

Positive identification was pending, but Douglass said volunteer searchers could stop their work. He did not say how the woman was slain, but KMBC reported that there were signs of trauma to the body.

"As I understand she was found at a wooded area, but I can't say whether she was directly concealed by bushes," Douglass told reporters during an afternoon news conference.

(Excerpt) Read more at thekansascitychannel.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Kansas; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: edwinhall; kansas; kelseysmith
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To: voteNRA
"Get all the rope in KANSAS, find a tall oak tree...."

I would much rather turn him over to her dad and let him hand out his punishment.

May God bless her family and help them through this heart breaking ordeal

Amen! Prayers go out for all of them. May God comfort them and give them strength for the difficult days ahead, because they're sure going to have some. This isn't supposed to happen to these young kids

America is sick and we've got to fix it before it's too late, IF it's not already. With liberal politicians in Congress and liberal judges in the courts we will keep sliding deeper and deeper into a cesspool.

51 posted on 06/06/2007 10:48:34 PM PDT by NRA2BFree ("The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves!")
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To: ozzymandus

Wouldn’t this be a Federal case? Her body was found in Missouri. They don’t know yet whether she was murdered in Kansas or Missouri,....would that make a difference? Just asking questions if you know. Thanks


52 posted on 06/06/2007 10:59:55 PM PDT by IamHD
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To: IamHD
Wouldn’t this be a Federal case? Her body was found in Missouri. They don’t know yet whether she was murdered in Kansas or Missouri,....would that make a difference?

Yes, even if she were murdered in Kansas, and he crossed into Missouri in an effort to conceal, hide or dump the body, federal criminal law would apply here.

53 posted on 06/06/2007 11:15:12 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: peggybac
What a shame. If they'd only enacted Megan's / Jessica's / Roberta's / Shawna's law, this could have been prevented. / sarc?

(Seriously, a terrible tragedy. But people need to remember that just because you know who the convicted sex offenders are you still aren't safe; a major amount of these cries are committed by first-timers.)

54 posted on 06/06/2007 11:27:08 PM PDT by Clint Williams (Read Roto-Reuters -- we're the spinmeisters!)
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To: TruthConquers

I couldn`t agree more a great song I heard a while back sums it up well,

Our prisons are full of scum like this
They says its Justice I say its the pits
Nows the time that something gets done
Change the laws they should be HUNG !

My prayers are with her frinds and family


55 posted on 06/06/2007 11:36:20 PM PDT by BhaktaSteve
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To: IggyPopAmen

No it doesn’t. My daughter is 34 and I harp on her all the time about being safe and aware of what’s going on around you. And to add to it she has a 9 yo daughter for me to worry about.

No, it never subsides.


56 posted on 06/06/2007 11:40:53 PM PDT by abigailsmybaby (I was born with nothing. So far I have most of it left.)
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To: Luke Skyfreeper

I’m wondering if the middle initial “R” is correct. In the people finding databases, it is someone with the middle initial “K” always listed in Olathe. The “R” one is listed in Wichita.

This is an older person, possibly the father. The reason I ask is that the Olathe one worked for Target.


57 posted on 06/06/2007 11:48:04 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: All

Never mind - found it. Oh, it is the same address as the “K” person I mentioned above who worked for Target.

Last Name First Name Middle Name Race Sex DOB Address City State Zip
HALL EDWIN ROY W M 10/18/80 511 N LINCOLN ST OLATHE KS 66061

CFN Booking Number Booking Officer Booking Date Booking Time AgencyArresting OfficerArrest DateArrest Time
124026 07008059 1168 06/07/07 00:57 KS0460600 MILLER/OPPD06/ 06/0718:05

Charge Charge Desc Charge Type Charge Level Dispo Bond Warrant
21-3401 MURDER 1ST DEGREE F OG TC $0.00

Comments
ALSO AGG KIDNAPPING AND THEFT


58 posted on 06/06/2007 11:54:02 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: peggybac; All

GOD Bless Her and Her Folks,,,Please Take Their Pain...

To All Of Ya’ll : Please tell your kids if they are attacked
that it’s “Life Or Death” on that spot,,,DO NOT EVER GET IN A CAR!! It’s only “Hand to Hand Combat” at that point...
It’s very easy to learn,,,just a few hours time in class with your local “Law Dawgs”(PD/etc.)WILL save their lives.


59 posted on 06/06/2007 11:55:42 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: cherry

60 posted on 06/07/2007 12:03:38 AM PDT by Rte66
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To: DakotaRed
...five minutes alone with the creep...

This isn't the first time I've had the same thoughts as you, but mine included all willing and able-bodied men in the victim's family.

As my upbringing never advocated taking the law into one's own hands, a part of me can't justify such actions.

Yet my gut reaction is to beat the h**l out of them.

The alternative: a civilized trial by jury, at our expense, followed by probably a murder conviction, then years and years and years on death row, with appeal after appeal.

Though it's secondary to the horrendous crime, we'll pay for all of this beast's "rights".

61 posted on 06/07/2007 12:08:47 AM PDT by IIntense
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To: Rte66

Good work. He has an account at Reunion.com—doesn’t give any info or pics though. Has birthday as 10/15. Age same—26. I checked classmates.com but didn’t come up with anything.


62 posted on 06/07/2007 12:17:19 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: IIntense

The saddest part is the murderer will have more rights than poor Kelsey or her family.

I expect some bleeding heart attorney to plead he is a “victim” of something and should not be held accountable.

Our legal system is broken when criminals receive more sympathy and rights than victims and their families.

It isn’t “civilized” to pamper criminals and watch as our precious sons and daughters are picked off one by one to satisfy some perverted lust of criminals.

Devil’s Island also comes to mind.


63 posted on 06/07/2007 12:19:31 AM PDT by DakotaRed (Liberals don't rattle sabers, they wave white flags)
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To: Rte66

Is that a pic of the suspected perp?
If so, he is a good match for the Kopetsky suspect.

http://www.kansascity.com/115/story/120413.html


64 posted on 06/07/2007 12:20:38 AM PDT by BigIsleGal (Love to Those on Rainbow Bridge and Luck to Us Who Aren't)
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To: peggybac

Great news! (Condolences to Kelsey Smith’s family and friends.)


65 posted on 06/07/2007 12:26:23 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Pining_4_TX
Wait now! His father was a drunk and used to abuse him as a child. He was bullied in school and the kids made fun of him. He had lots of run-ins with the law and got hooked on drugs. You see, it’s all our fault that he is this way. So, how can we punish someone that has already gone through all of this? (I just made all this up, I’m playing like I’m a Liberal tonight)
66 posted on 06/07/2007 12:33:01 AM PDT by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
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To: BigIsleGal

Yeah, that’s his booking photo.


67 posted on 06/07/2007 12:40:16 AM PDT by Rte66
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To: abigailsmybaby
...I harp on her all the time...

Your daughter is obviously of adult age and if she has common sense, she values her own life and that of her daughter.

My own Mother worried constantly. I would leave her house at night with the warning to lock my car doors, and which route I was not to take.

When my Dad went out to a store during the day, she estimated the time it should take him. They were in their 70s at the time.

If he wasn't back when she thought he would/should be, she went into worry mode.

I have a friend with the same fear problem. To somewhat relieve her OWN anxiety, she MUST say, "Be careful".

My Mother's excessive fears had a detrimental effect on me. They tended to erode my confidence in myself.

My youngest daughter will leave our house with her three children and drive, possibly through traffic, to her home a half-hour away. She does not leave with a "Be careful" from her Dad or me. She values her own life and that of her children. She doesn't need warnings from us.

68 posted on 06/07/2007 12:41:23 AM PDT by IIntense
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To: peggybac

If this is absolutely the guy he needs to be dispatched quickly, and I don’t mean multiple appeals and a $100 k lethal injection. I mean if he has a legitimate appeal, okay, one time, and then it’s over. Dig a 3x3, 14 ft deep hole, put him in it, fill it with dirt and spend the extra $98,000 on something useful. My heart aches for that family, and the boyfriend, I understand she had gone to Target to get a present for his birthday. You can tell a lot about a society by looking at its prisons and its criminal justice system. You can tell the better part of our society are lunatics.


69 posted on 06/07/2007 12:42:57 AM PDT by WildcatClan (Duncan Hunter '08 'Doing the jobs Americans aren't willing to do.')
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68
Teach them to yell "Kidnapper". Otherwise people will turn their heads
thinking it's a family issue.
70 posted on 06/07/2007 12:45:23 AM PDT by MaxMax (God Bless America)
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To: BigIsleGal
That composite is very close. When someone goes all the way with murder,
they've done it before, or have worked up to it by increasing
the adrenalin rush.
It's a perversion on par with homosexuality..
71 posted on 06/07/2007 12:51:48 AM PDT by MaxMax (God Bless America)
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To: fish hawk
His father was a drunk and used to abuse him as a child...(I just made all of this up...)

Looking at your hypothetical scenario, which actually occurs in thousands of homes, how does the average person know the effects of an extremely bad environment on a growing child?

I, for one, can't even relate to that kind of upbringing.

In many criminal cases I've read of, my belief has been that abusive parents who messed up their child should be imprisoned along with him/her. They are equally culpable.

72 posted on 06/07/2007 1:05:27 AM PDT by IIntense
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To: WildcatClan
If this is absolutely the guy he needs to be dispatched quickly...

Newsflash! That's not how our justice system works. A murder conviction will see him sitting on death row for years to come. That is, if the convicting state HAS a death penalty.

If this is determined to be a federal crime, I don't know what the ultimate penalty would be.

He won't be deported to Mexico; we can scratch THAT thought.

73 posted on 06/07/2007 1:15:01 AM PDT by IIntense
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To: voteNRA
“Get all the rope in KANSAS, find a tall oak tree....”

Wouldn't a short rope on a normal sized tree work better?

74 posted on 06/07/2007 1:15:06 AM PDT by Saint Reagan
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To: DakotaRed

I saw her father on Fox News last night. You could see the catastrophic suffering and pain in the mans’ soul. It brought tears to my eyes.

I pray that the good Lord comforts her family, friends and boyfriend.


75 posted on 06/07/2007 1:31:59 AM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative
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To: IM2MAD

I had a friend who did that. The would be abductor scrambled off to find the keys and my friend ran back to the store and called the police. It certainly worked in that case.


76 posted on 06/07/2007 1:32:17 AM PDT by saradippity
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To: saradippity

I know fear kicks in. I know people can freeze up in panic.

But when these situations develop. A person should try anything they can to get away. and you must make a quick decision if there is no other way out., you fight to the death. Scream, scratch, dig, bite, kick, elbow. Keep at it. Dont stop.

It is like WARFARE ! wage war on them.

These perverts in the United States make Osama Bin Laden look half way decent.


77 posted on 06/07/2007 1:42:12 AM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative
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To: Saint Reagan

“Wouldn’t a short rope on a normal sized tree work better?”

I guess, but the song that came to my mind specifically called out the length of rope and type of tree (Toby Keith - Beer for My Horses)

All kidding aside, please pray for this family


78 posted on 06/07/2007 1:56:27 AM PDT by voteNRA
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To: peggybac

This brings to mind what George Bush said during a debate in the 2000 campaign. If you hang them, one thing is certain, they won’t kill anybody else. This is why he’s been working to clear the federal bench of liberals. Richards and Alito is a positive step, with Thompson as the next prez that good work can continue.

And yes, judges/parole boards who let scum like this back on the streets should be held accountable. Judicial watch needs to do a better job of informing the public as to which of them are the worst felon-releasers.

This was a beautiful young girl, a life of promise, snatched away by bleeding heart liberals...a loss for all good people.


79 posted on 06/07/2007 2:26:05 AM PDT by timer (n/0=n=nx0)
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To: Luke Skyfreeper

Wonder what his juvenile record looks like.


80 posted on 06/07/2007 3:28:13 AM PDT by VA40
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To: TruthConquers

Evisceration while conscious.


81 posted on 06/07/2007 3:42:31 AM PDT by CaptSkip
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To: TruthConquers
I hope this guy gets the death penalty.

Kansas has it, but we don't use it much. If they can prove that he killed her on the Missouri side of the border then I don't mind them trying him. They aren't as squeemish about executions as we seem to be.

82 posted on 06/07/2007 4:11:25 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: WasDougsLamb
Great! One less murdering pig on our streets. Question is, will they keep him or let him out after a slap on the wrist to kill another child??????

With all the visibility this has had? The guy is toast.

83 posted on 06/07/2007 4:13:51 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: IggyPopAmen

I told my two girls the same thing - I don’t care if someone tells them they will kill them if don’t get in the car, or that they have her parents and will kill them - don’t get in the car. Fight, scream, bite, kick, roll, whatever you have to do to cause a scene, because once you are in the car, the chances of coming out are slim.


84 posted on 06/07/2007 4:16:15 AM PDT by SoftballMominVA (Never argue with an idiot. He will bring you down to his level and beat you with experience)
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To: peggybac
D.A. Phill Kline who is hated by all Dems and RINOs in Kansas will work his ass off to make sure this piece of s**t goes nowhere.

Phill may not get his chance. If the actually killing occured on the Missouri side of the line then they have jurisdiction and should try him for the more serious crime of murder. I hope Kline doesn't try and grab the case for political reasons. Besides, they actually execute over there.

85 posted on 06/07/2007 4:17:00 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Saint Reagan
Wouldn't a short rope on a normal sized tree work better?

How about a long rope from a short tree -- over and over again?

86 posted on 06/07/2007 4:32:37 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (A living insult to islam since 1959.)
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To: REDWOOD99
Same should go for the judge or parole board that I GUARANTEE let this schmuck out of jail early.

What we need is a wealthy benefactor to finance a crew of inventive lawyers.
Find a way to sue these judges, parole boards, psychiatrists that allow major offenders, sex offenders in particular, to walk.

Just one precedent setting suit would have a chilling effect on the system.

Make these idiot court officials financially responsible for their decisions.

87 posted on 06/07/2007 4:49:43 AM PDT by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: wardaddy

Amen....NEVER get in the car.


88 posted on 06/07/2007 5:09:47 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: peggybac

bttt


89 posted on 06/07/2007 5:52:23 AM PDT by Deguello
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To: Rte66

I noticed on the news the number on the house is 511.


90 posted on 06/07/2007 6:51:56 AM PDT by peggybac (Tolerance is the virtue of believing in nothing)
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To: potlatch; PhilDragoo; ntnychik; dixiechick2000; Travis McGee; peggybac


480x600

Edwin Roy Hall


  • DOB 10/18/80
  • 511 N LINCOLN ST OLATHE KS 66061
  • 06/07/07
  • MURDER 1ST DEGREE
  • AGG KIDNAPPING
  • THEFT



91 posted on 06/07/2007 7:04:29 AM PDT by devolve ( _Illegal_Aliens_Killed_25_Americans_Today _20_More_Than_Al-Qaeda_Did_ _Smoke_Gets_in_My_Eyes_)
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To: devolve

Freepers get to work. Watching my fox news live in KCMO and the perp apparently has a MYSPACE.COM page in which his “friends” accused him of murder before his arrest.


92 posted on 06/07/2007 8:18:20 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (Arm Pilots&Teachers. Build the Wall. Export Illegals. Profile Muslims.Kill all child molesters RFN!)
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To: peggybac

It made me think of how my family and young cousins sometimes go to walmart three times a day.


93 posted on 06/07/2007 8:22:37 AM PDT by ichabod1 ("Liberals read Karl Marx. Conservatives UNDERSTAND Karl Marx." Ronald Reagan)
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To: potlatch; PhilDragoo; ntnychik; dixiechick2000; Travis McGee; DCBryan1
  Edwin R. Hall


  • Same haircut as video

  • No noticable beard here

  • Quickly shaved head

  • Previous violence likely




94 posted on 06/07/2007 8:41:36 AM PDT by devolve ( _Illegal_Aliens_Killed_25_Americans_Today _20_More_Than_Al-Qaeda_Did_ _Smoke_Gets_in_My_Eyes_)
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To: devolve
I am on a govt computer during break. I cannot search myspace, nor would I want to but this scumbag has postings that his "friends" accused him of the murder before his arrest.

Maybe this was the tip they followed up on? I would be interested in seeing the post.

95 posted on 06/07/2007 8:44:33 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (Arm Pilots&Teachers. Build the Wall. Export Illegals. Profile Muslims.Kill all child molesters RFN!)
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To: cherry

Scroll down:
A picture of 26 year old Edwin R. Hall can be found to the right taken from his Myspace account.

96 posted on 06/07/2007 8:45:16 AM PDT by avacado
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To: DCBryan1
Darn it, 'someone' made his profile private. Last log on was yesterday:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=139495895

97 posted on 06/07/2007 8:51:44 AM PDT by IamHD
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

It’s really disheartening to me that I heard her father say that she always said if anybody tried to get her into a car she was going to kick some ass.


98 posted on 06/07/2007 8:58:47 AM PDT by ichabod1 ("Liberals read Karl Marx. Conservatives UNDERSTAND Karl Marx." Ronald Reagan)
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To: IamHD

Looks nothing like him, In my opinion.


99 posted on 06/07/2007 9:01:51 AM PDT by Orange1998
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To: Orange1998

They just showed his mug pic on Fox, and it looks nothing like the bald headed guy’s pic, either.


100 posted on 06/07/2007 9:10:44 AM PDT by IamHD
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