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Prosecute Plame?
FrontPageMagazine ^ | June 8, 2007 | Kenneth R. Timmerman

Posted on 06/08/2007 10:02:41 AM PDT by Ooh-Ah

U.S. District Court Judge Reggie B. Walton wants former vice presidential aide I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby to go directly to jail, without passing go, and without collecting $200 dollars. And so far, the word from the White House is that President Bush has no intention of giving Libby a Get Out of Jail Free card.

“The prospect of a pardon has become so sensitive inside the West Wing that top aides have been kept out of the loop, and even Bush friends have been told not to bring it up with the president,” the Washington Post wrote on Wednesday.
 
If true, that’s a pretty sorry comment on the state of the Bush White House, and the state of this presidency, especially given Bush’s obsession with demanding total loyalty from his staff. Bush’s loyalty is a one-way street.
 
As I have argued in this space before, Scooter deserves a pardon, now, before he serves a single day in jail.
 
While Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald – a Clinton appointee, let’s not forget – did succeed in convincing a Washington, DC jury to convict Libby of lying to a grand jury, it’s also crystal clear that Libby was being questioned about a crime everyone now agrees he did not commit.
 
Even Judge Walton acknowledged this, noting on Tuesday during the sentencing hearing that “the trial did not prove Libby knew that [Valerie] Plame worked in an undercover capacity.”
 
But the trial did prove, beyond any doubt whatsoever, that Libby was not the government official who leaked her name. That honor falls to former deputy secretary of State Richard Armitage, who spilled the beans in an interview with Washington Post reporter Bob Woodward weeks before Libby ever had the conservations Pat Fitzgerald’s taxpayer-funded Bush-hunt investigated for 2 1/2 years.
 
For Walton and Fitzgerald, it made no difference that there was no underlying crime. Libby deserved jail time because he “lied about nearly everything that mattered,” Fitzgerald said in his sentencing memorandum. Even worse: Fitzgerald claimed at the hearing that Libby’s lying “uniquely blocked” him from learning the full truth about what happened.
 
Much hot air has been expelled from various parts about the crime of perjury. Writing in the Washington Times the day after Libby was sentenced, Bush critic Bruce Fein said Libby not only deserved jail time, but “deserves a stiff prison term to deter his erstwhile Bush administration colleagues, for example, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales and White House political guru Karl Rove, from equivocating with Congress and the courts.”
 
Fein, who reminds anyone who will listen that he was a deputy attorney general during the Reagan administration, also supported a Congressional motion of censure against President Bush last year. He believes that sending Libby to jail “is imperative also to honor the rule of law, the nation’s crown jewel.”
 
Well, if perjury is so important – and it is, when it concerns an underlying crime – then Attorney General Alberto Gonzales should consider appointing a Special Counsel to investigate Valerie Plame.
 
Why? Because by all appearances, either Val has the memory of a mouse, or she flagrantly perjured herself while testifying under oath before the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform on March 16, 2007.
 
Under questioning, Plame insisted that she was not the one who recommended that the CIA send her husband, former U.S. Ambassador Joe Wilson, to Niger in February 2002 to investigate claims that Saddam Hussein was seeking to purchase significant quantities of uranium from Africa.
 
“No. I did not recommend him,” she said. “I did not suggest him. There was no nepotism involved. I didn’t have the authority.”
 
Besides the fact that no one has ever suggested, to my knowledge, that Valerie Plame actually made the decision to send her husband, her statement is pretty straight forward. She neither recommended her husband, or suggested his name.
 
Perhaps Ms. Plame never expected that anyone would challenge that statement. Perhaps she just assumed that the truth would remain cloaked in secrecy. Perhaps she trusted her friends in Congress to make sure that no evidence contradicting her assertions would ever be released to the public.
 
When the Senate Select committee on intelligence first investigated the Niger story in a report released in July 2004, it stated flat-out, “The plan to send the former ambassador to Niger was suggested by the former ambassador’s wife, a CIA employee.”
 
That angered Mr. Wilson, who wrote to the committee shortly afterwards, claiming that this assertion was “not true.”
 
Since then, the Senate intelligence committee has gone back to the source, and reviewed yet again many of the intelligence documents that it relied upon for that initial report.
 
One of those documents was the email from Valerie Plame to her boss at CIA in which she recommended her husband for the Niger trip.
 
According to Wilson, that memo was “little more than a recitation of his contacts and bona fides.” But in additional views from intelligence committee vice-chairman Sen. Kit Bond, Sen. Hatch, and Sen. Burr, released on May 25, 2007, they state flat out, “This is not true.”
 
And then they drop the bomb. “The Committee did not release the full text of the document, thinking it was unnecessary in light of the other evidence provided in the [original] report, but considering the controversy surrounding this document, making the full text available now seems prudent.”
 
The Valerie Plame e-mail, now fully declassified, shows without any doubt that she recommended her husband for the mission in Niger.
 
After recounting an earlier fact-finding mission he had carried out in Niger for the Agency, as well as his good contacts "with both the [prime minister] and the former minister of mines," she concluded by saying that her husband "may be in a position to assist. Therefore, request your thoughts on what, if anything to pursue here.”
 
Is there anything ambiguous about that statement? I don’t think so. Valerie Plame was recommending her husband for the Niger trip. [The document can be viewed here]
 
It ought to be sent to Attorney General Albert Gonzales by members of Mr. Waxman’s committee, along with a cover note requesting a Special counsel investigation to determine whether Ms. Plame committed perjury during her March 16, 2007 Congressional testimony.
 
And that’s not the only instance where Valerie Plame appears to have garbled the facts, intentionally or not.
 
Asked by Rep. Westmoreland about the context for sending her husband to Niger, Plame showed that she had been paying very close attention to what was publicly known  about the case:
 
“Congressman, I believe one of the pieces of evidence that was introduced in the Libby trial was an INR memo of that meeting, where it states -- in fact, my husband was not particularly looking forward -- he didn't think it was necessary. There had been, I believe, at least two other reports -- one by a three-star general and one by the ambassador there on the ground -- who said there really wasn't much to this allegation.
 
“And the INR folks that attended the meeting also said: Well, we're not sure that this is really necessary.  But it was ultimately decided that he would go, use his contacts -- which were extensive in the government -- to see if there was anything more to this.  It was a serious question asked by the Office of the Vice President, and it deserved a serious answer.”
 
There’s only one problem with Valerie Plame’s statement. It doesn’t square with what she also should have known from the classified record.
 
The report “by the ambassador there on the ground” has also been partially declassified, and concluded– precisely to the contrary – that initial CIA reporting “provides sufficient details to warrant another hard look at Niger's uranium sales,” according to the latest Senate intelligence committee report.
 
If anyone thought this story ended with Scooter Libby’s sentencing hearing, or even with him going to jail, think again.
 
There is much more to come. Stay tuned.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: plame; scooterlibby; wilson
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1 posted on 06/08/2007 10:02:45 AM PDT by Ooh-Ah
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To: Ooh-Ah

Go throw a nickle down a well and wish upon a star.

Republicans are BALL-LESS DWEEBS and such a scenario will NEVER happen.


2 posted on 06/08/2007 10:06:12 AM PDT by Al Gator (Refusing to "stoop to your enemy's level", gets you cut off at the knees.)
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To: Ooh-Ah

Well written article.


3 posted on 06/08/2007 10:06:18 AM PDT by CPT Clay (Drill ANWR, Personal Accounts NOW.)
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To: Ooh-Ah

If he wouldn’t pardon the two Border Patrol agents that got railroaded into 12 & 13 years of prison... oh, wait. I forgot. He was DRIVING that railroad train.


4 posted on 06/08/2007 10:07:57 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: Ooh-Ah

Prosecute Plame?

ABSOLUTELY...however, we know that will NEVER happen!


5 posted on 06/08/2007 10:11:59 AM PDT by oldteen
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To: Ooh-Ah

Big secret: top managers, generally, have no concept of ‘loyalty’ except as something they can punish their subordinates for not having.


6 posted on 06/08/2007 10:14:17 AM PDT by Grut
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To: Ooh-Ah

As difficult as it has been, I have been trying real hard to stick with Bush. Now however, the immigration thing really made it hard to swallow, but if he lets Libby go to the slammer, I am gone.


7 posted on 06/08/2007 10:16:44 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: Ooh-Ah

WHY is Bush so sensitive about the subject that friends can’t even bring it up?


8 posted on 06/08/2007 10:20:16 AM PDT by Fairview ( Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.)
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To: Ooh-Ah

Several major points:

1. Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald – a Clinton appointee

2. Judge Walton....“the trial did not prove Libby knew that [Valerie] Plame worked in an undercover capacity.”

3. ...trial did prove, beyond any doubt whatsoever,Libby was not the government official who leaked her name

Now what’s wrong with this picture. People are so concerned about sending the wrong man to jail. Where’s the outcry? Sending Libby to jail would tantamount to a travesty of justice.


9 posted on 06/08/2007 10:21:33 AM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: Ooh-Ah
There is much more to come. Stay tuned.

Reason to hope? As suggested elsewhere on FR, a presidential pardon would not remove the stain of this conviction.

Let them exhaust their appeals.

Severity suggests desperation.

10 posted on 06/08/2007 10:22:16 AM PDT by tsomer
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To: Fairview

No wonder Bush is so far out of the loop......WHO is controlling access to the president and keeping him uninformed? Rove? Who? Bush needs to connect with his “base” and see things for himself.


11 posted on 06/08/2007 10:24:24 AM PDT by tioga (Fred Thompson for President.)
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To: Al Gator
Republicans are BALL-LESS DWEEBS...

Hmmmm... may I make a slight modification?

Most Republicans in Congress and the Senate are BALL-LESS DWEEBS...

Please don't paint fine American members of the Republican party with that brush.

12 posted on 06/08/2007 10:26:08 AM PDT by DJ Frisat (SPAM: best in the can and in sammiches -- not for use on computers.)
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To: lilylangtree
President Bush has no problem demanding blanket amnesty for 15 to 20 million illegal aliens.

But he can't bring himself to pardon a loyal subordinate who was railroaded.

Pathetic.

L

13 posted on 06/08/2007 10:27:37 AM PDT by Lurker (Comparing moderate islam to extremist islam is like comparing small pox to plague.)
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To: Ooh-Ah

President Thompson will pardon Scooter. He just needs to drag the appeals process out until the inauguration.


14 posted on 06/08/2007 10:29:28 AM PDT by capydick (What if the Hokey Pokey IS what it's all about?)
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To: Al Gator

Plame has made her own punishment...she has to live with that dickhead Joe Wilson, and she can’t get rid of him by recommending him for any foreign service.

These two are toast in D.C. They’ll have to find a playground elsewhere.


15 posted on 06/08/2007 10:29:39 AM PDT by Palladin (NO Shamnesty!!!)
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To: All
SEE:

SNEAK PREVIEW!

View the SECRET email from Valerie Plame Wilson to her bosses at CIA that she was hoping would remain classified.

It shows beyond any doubt who sent Joe Wilson to Niger in Feburary 2002....

Read my story about the Senate Intelligence committee's rebuke of Joe Wilson at Newsmax

16 posted on 06/08/2007 10:32:17 AM PDT by Ooh-Ah
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To: Ooh-Ah
Scooter might be guilty of lying, if so it is a separate issue from Plame's lies. Didn't the Congress just say again that Joe Wilson was a liar? If so, it is a crime that Valerie Plame sat behind her CIA protection knowing (and OBVIOUSLY approving) that her husband was publicly revealing and lying about a confidential CIA mission which she sent him on.

But even if she didn't send him (she did)it was positively criminal for her to enjoy the show while her husband lied about an agency mission on every tv station.

Her own husband, that's what makes the idea of her "covert" status ridiculous. How the hell could anyone expect their being covert to protect them from their husband going on a public world tour shouting that he went on a secret mission???

17 posted on 06/08/2007 10:33:15 AM PDT by Williams
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To: Ooh-Ah
"Prosecute Plame?"

Innocent! Innocent! Innocent!

I can't help it ... she's too lovely to go behind bars. I would acquit if only she'd have dinner with me at Nathan's in Georgetown. [I know I will be flamed for this.]

Well, somebody had to post pictures ...


18 posted on 06/08/2007 10:34:08 AM PDT by tom h
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To: tom h

You’re just a dirty old man!


19 posted on 06/08/2007 10:36:05 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: Ooh-Ah
If anyone thought this story ended with Scooter Libby’s sentencing hearing, or even with him going to jail, think again.

I doubt it. Mr. "straight arrow" prosecutor will apply the Clinton Rule - Democrats are not prosecuted for perjury.

20 posted on 06/08/2007 10:39:34 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
As difficult as it has been, I have been trying real hard to stick with Bush. Now however, the immigration thing really made it hard to swallow, but if he lets Libby go to the slammer, I am gone.

You mean you aren't going to vote for him in 2008 when he runs for his third term in office? Or what?

21 posted on 06/08/2007 10:42:05 AM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Ooh-Ah
Crosslink: Leak Prosecutor's Authority Questioned
22 posted on 06/08/2007 10:42:12 AM PDT by SmithL (si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Ooh-Ah
Bush’s loyalty is a one-way street.

Uh, what the heck is this supposed to mean? Libby is not in jail, and his sentencing is under appeal. Why would the President want to be bombarded with 'Are you gonna pardon him, huh? Are ya? Are ya?' I don't blame him for not wanting to talk about it with everyone at this point.

Me thinks this author had a few too many caffeine drinks before writing this.

23 posted on 06/08/2007 10:44:31 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: tom h

I guess some guys are so shallow that it doesn’t matter how despicable the woman is, as long as she looks good. :::shrug:::


24 posted on 06/08/2007 10:46:56 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: FreedomCalls

I can appreciate your sarcasm, but what I meant was that in conversations with others, I have been trying to be a loyal defender of his administration, despite many disagreements. If he lets Libby get locked up, he doesn’t deserve my continued loyalty.


25 posted on 06/08/2007 10:51:33 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: Ooh-Ah

Bump for later


26 posted on 06/08/2007 10:53:36 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Ooh-Ah

SNEAK PREVIEW from Timmerman's upcoming book--SHADOW WARRIORS!


Available Nov. 6, 2007
Pre-order On-line store at Amazon.com


27 posted on 06/08/2007 10:55:38 AM PDT by Ooh-Ah
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
Nah. I'm 50 so technically I'm AARP but hardly a dirty old man -- especially since that usually implies attraction to teenagers.

But America's vision of "lovely" has vanished so I am infatuated with classic versions of "lovely," especially middle-aged images of lovely. My wife is one. When she dresses up she actually resembles Valerie, in face and figure, and that's why I think I have this unexplainable heart-melting when I see her face.

I think the same way about Peggy Noonan. Yeah, she's over 50, but she's lovely and has a brilliant and passionate conservative mind to boot. See these photos of Peggy:

I am so "weakened" I even have a soft spot for that flaming lib we know as Susan Sarandon (this will really tick off some Freepers):

Add a few more lovely women, like the First Lady Laura Bush,. I'm putty in their hands.

28 posted on 06/08/2007 10:59:01 AM PDT by tom h
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To: MEGoody

It’s a weakness ... I admit it ... I’m in therapy ... see post 28.


29 posted on 06/08/2007 10:59:55 AM PDT by tom h
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To: Fairview
WHY is Bush so sensitive about the subject that friends can’t even bring it up?

If Libby's upcoming appeal succeeds, he will be cleared of all charges. If Bush steps in now and issues a pardon, Libby will forever be known as the guy who was convicted of lying but pardoned by his pal.......

So it makes sense to allow the circus to go on at least until right before Bush leaves office.......

30 posted on 06/08/2007 11:07:16 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (......)
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To: Ooh-Ah
re: While Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald – a Clinton appointee, let’s not forget – did succeed in convincing a Washington, DC jury to convict Libby

Just out of curiosity: What was the make-up of the Washington, DC jury? Isn’t the town itself almost all Democrat? Are any Republicans EVER elected there? If this is the case, can it be said that Libby was tried by a jury of his peers? If he was tried by a jury that was predisposed to convict him for being a Republican and serving a Republican president, the outcome of the trial is not surprising.

31 posted on 06/08/2007 11:09:12 AM PDT by Nevadan (nevadan)
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To: lilylangtree

As no crime was committed Libby had no motive to lie.

This leads to only two conclusions:
1. Libby was mistaken in his testimony.

or

2. Tim Russert is a lying Son of a Bit— and perjured himself to get Libby convicted.

It should be noted that Tim Russert took no notes during his conversation with Libby. Tim Russert made no notes after his conversation with Libby. I find it very difficult to believe that after talking to the lawyer to the second most powerfull individual in the United States that Tim Russert did not take notes of this conversation so he could write an article or present it on television.

I think Russert is a lying Son of a Bit—!!!!


32 posted on 06/08/2007 11:28:45 AM PDT by cpdiii (Pharmacist, Pilot, Geologist, Oil Field Trash and proud of it.)
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To: Ooh-Ah
I just read the document at the link. Oh my God, gag me with a spoon, we've got Paris "Than's Hot" Hilton running the CIA...

In case you don't speak Valley Girl, get a translator before you go there.

33 posted on 06/08/2007 11:33:58 AM PDT by Doctor Raoul (What's the difference between the CIA and the Free Clinic? The Free Clinic knows how to stop leaks.)
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To: Palladin

I think that is why Plame-Wilson moved to New Mexico. They know that if they stay in DC then they will be hounded by the media but if they stay in NM they can control the spin and exposure. They are also close to the border in case they have to make a quick escape.


34 posted on 06/08/2007 11:35:30 AM PDT by No2much3 (I did not ask for this user name, but I will keep it !)
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To: Al Gator
Let's see,
O. J. Simpson commits murder & walks,
Paris Hilton breaks several laws & walks,
Dingy Harry takes a $1 million bribe & skates,
Diane Feinstein gives hundreds of govt. millions to her husband & skates,
Bill Clinton commits perjury & walks,
Nancy Pelosi visits Syria in violation of federal law & skates,
Our nuclear secrets from Los Alamos labs given to China & everyone skates,
Richard Armitage leaks Valerie Plame's identity & skates,
Scooter Libby gets 2 1/2 years for obstructing an investigation into a crime that was never committed,
Martha Stewart's little white lie got her serious prison time,
John Ashcroft & Don Rumsfeld do their job & get run out of town,
and on and on..............
35 posted on 06/08/2007 11:42:26 AM PDT by Stayfree (*************************Get your copy of The Fred Factor by David Gill at Capitol Hill Comedy.com)
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To: Ooh-Ah

“Prosecute Plame?”

If only to watch Chris Matthews head POP on nat’l tv.


36 posted on 06/08/2007 11:43:20 AM PDT by Grunthor (Imwithfred.com)
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To: Ooh-Ah

Of course Plame lied, and she lied under oath to Congress. I’ll let others agonize over whether her “promise” to tell the truth constitutes a legal oath. She raised her hand, and then proceeded to lie to Congress. If Congress doesn’t consider that to be perjury, then perjury itself is meaningless.


37 posted on 06/08/2007 12:06:31 PM PDT by marron
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
If he lets Libby get locked up, he doesn’t deserve my continued loyalty.

I'm still confused though. What does your loyalty do or not do for him? Are you not going to vote Republican in 2008 because of him? Are you not going to send in donations to the RNC? As a lame duck President, nothing you do or not do can affect him. It can affect others in the RNC, but not him. If you are suggesting that you will not support inititives he creates that might otherwise be supported by a conservative, then you are going off the deep end into Bush Derangement Syndrome where nothing Bush does is praiseworthy simply because it's from Bush. On the other hand if you have been supporting otherwise noxious Bush inititives (such as prosecuting Ramos and Compean) simply because Bush did it, then that too is wrong. Not that I should tell you what to do, but the proper way out of the liberal quagmire the country finds itself in is to support conservative ideas and actions and reject anti-conservative ideas and actions no matter who originated them.

38 posted on 06/08/2007 12:15:20 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: tom h

No arguments from me. I think they’re all hot.


39 posted on 06/08/2007 12:18:31 PM PDT by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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To: tom h

Just another Paris Hilton wannabe ~


40 posted on 06/08/2007 12:25:16 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: No2much3
The Wilsons also know they can get more house servants at a lower cost than in the DC area.

Around here the illegals get $18 to $28 per hour, and they don't have to sleep with the lady of the house either.

Think of the Wilsons as an American version of Euro-trash, but without the class, or the skis.

41 posted on 06/08/2007 12:28:12 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Impulsive answers only reveal your lack of insight.

Valerie Plame is far more lovely than Paris Hilton. And while Paris gratuitously shows off her body, Plame just dresses normally and attractively. What a difference!


42 posted on 06/08/2007 12:30:15 PM PDT by tom h
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To: tom h
On the other hand we know that the Plame woman hopped into the sack on the third date with an overweight middle-aged guy.

That, rather than any sort of demure behavior and conservative dress is most likely the point of her attraction for you.

Paris, to her credit, is heir to a billion dollars (and I doubt she waits for the third date).

43 posted on 06/08/2007 12:36:25 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Grut

Well put.


44 posted on 06/08/2007 12:54:45 PM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom! Non-Sequitur = Pee Wee Herman.)
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To: cpdiii
1. Libby was mistaken in his testimony.

Wanna see something sad...read Bob Woodwards account of his conversation with Libby, vs. Libby's account. The stuff Libby says he said to Russert, Woodward says he said to him.

45 posted on 06/08/2007 1:03:16 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: MEGoody; tom h
"I guess some guys are so shallow that it doesn’t matter how despicable the woman is, as long as she looks good."

Good looking AND despicable!

(mmmmmmmm.....)

46 posted on 06/08/2007 1:09:57 PM PDT by dogbrain (memo to self: Don't drink from toilet; it's where liberals wash their hands....)
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To: MEGoody

Black roots & part.


47 posted on 06/08/2007 3:27:19 PM PDT by TweetEBird007
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To: muawiyah

Well, wow. You’ve just stirred the pot a bit. If I hear you correctly, Paris Hilton is a better catch than Valerie Plame. And Valerie may have spent some time as a CIA-lovely who used, (ahem) “confidential and undisclosed assets” to get information from bad guys. At least we can imagine such.

Well, I’m really not interested in either. I’m just admiring her from afar. I would expect neither Paris nor Valerie to ever want me in the sack.

I’m really just admiring her loveliness. Best to leave it at that.


48 posted on 06/08/2007 4:11:08 PM PDT by tom h
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To: Ooh-Ah

Joe Wilson’s Perfidy

Joe took the Islamicists’ side,
When he said that the President lied.
Since the Times spread Joe’s tale,
Please put them in jail
And, certainly, Joe should be fried

Joe wrote an op-ed and lied
Didn’t care if Americans died
He sat on his tush
As he undermined Bush
And pretended wife Val was “inside.”


49 posted on 06/08/2007 5:54:12 PM PDT by syriacus ("...had the US troops remained [in S. Korea in 1949], there would have been no [Korean] War")
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To: tom h

looks rather ordinary to me...

50 posted on 06/08/2007 5:58:31 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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