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Of Drunks, Panties And Immigration
America Talks ^ | June 10, 2007 | David Zublick

Posted on 06/10/2007 8:20:46 AM PDT by AmericaTalks

The Paris Hilton train wreck this past week shows unequivocally that our society is collapsing from within.

It was not about Hilton. It was about us. Here is a woman, a celebutante, a pop tart, receiving more attention than the top story of the week; namely the Bush immigration bill going down in flames.

We were at first shocked and outraged that Hiton was released from jail just five days into an already reduced sentence for committing a crime that could have resulted in her death or the death of other people. We then sat transfixed as we watched the images of Hilton being picked up at her house and brought back to the courtroom. This was reminiscent of the slow speed O.J. Simpson Bronco chase. Wall to wall coverage.

When the judge ordered Hilton to serve her entire 45 day sentence, we both cheered and jeered, depending on how we view the situation. But the bottom line is, we had an opinion. We had an opinion about the images of her crying in the back seat of the squad car, we had an opinion about the screaming fit she exhibited in the courtroom. At water coolers in offices across the United States, the name of Paris Hilton was on the lips of just about every individual.

What does that say about us as a nation?

It says that we are hung up on celebrity status. We love to prop up the rich and famous, then tear them down. It says we care more about whether or not Britney Spears or Lindsay Lohan are wearing their panties than whether 30, million illegal aliens will continue to infest our nation. It says we show more concern over Hilton's brief incarceration, than we do over two true patriots, Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean, who are serving 11 and 12 year prison sentences respectively, for protecting our nation admirably from drug smuggling maggots.

The fact that the Hilton story was the major news item of the past week makes it crystal clear that our priorities as a nation are screwed up.

The bottom line here is that Hilton got what she deserved. And if we allow the President to resurrect this immigration bill, a truly more important issue, we will get what we deserve.

Memo to Bush: After Hilton gets out of jail, after Lohan sobers up, after Spears gets her underwear back on, recruit them to sell your amnesty plan through public service announcements. The public will probably buy it.

For complete coverage of issues that matter to Americans most, listen to America Talks Monday through Friday at 10 pm eastern time at www.americatalks.com.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: amnesty; immigration

1 posted on 06/10/2007 8:20:47 AM PDT by AmericaTalks
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To: AmericaTalks

Pictures of the panties by any chance?


2 posted on 06/10/2007 8:25:46 AM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: AmericaTalks

Most people are afraid to think about the immigration issue, afraid to face the fact that they are powerless, afraid to think of the consequences to them and their families of their own personal lack of power in the face of this invasion. So, they turn to the circus and, for now, pretend that all is ok, with the minor exception of a rich strumpet getting unequal consideration from the criminal justice systems.


3 posted on 06/10/2007 8:26:38 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: AmericaTalks

I did not realize that President Bush had secretly started the Immigration Bill.


4 posted on 06/10/2007 8:27:50 AM PDT by mountainlyons (Hard core conservative)
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To: AmericaTalks

Yeah and wasn’t the President off somewhere having a V8 this week?


5 posted on 06/10/2007 8:27:54 AM PDT by kcar
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To: AmericaTalks
A driver who violates the terms of a suspended license is bad.

What Sandy Berger did in stealing and destroying documents pertinent to investigations as to how the 9-11 attacks occurred and where there were weaknesses in National Security was worse.

The media never gave a Rat’s @$$ about Sandy’s slap on the wrist punishment. The public did, you just didn’t hear about it in the MSM.

Both Paris and Sandy “deeply regret” their errors. Who do you believe more? A young ditsy girl or a lawyer who served in the Clinton Administration and was caught covering up for same administration?

6 posted on 06/10/2007 8:29:21 AM PDT by weegee (Libs want us to learn to live with terrorism, but if a gun is used they want to rewrite the Const.)
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To: AmericaTalks

I think both stories show a victory for the rule of law over bleeding heart liberalism. One was a big victory one a little victory. Don’t misunderestimate the importance of the little victories.


7 posted on 06/10/2007 8:30:22 AM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: AmericaTalks
What all of this really shows is that our MEDIA is all screwed up. The fact that the illegal alien amnesty went down shows that we DO care, we are out doing the right thing, and we are being proactive about it. The politicians thought that we were going to be wallflowers about this issue and they were grossly mistaken. They thought they'd slip this by us and they ran into a buzzsaw instead.

Most people's priorities are just fine, it's the media that is all out of whack. If the so-called war on terror were being run in accordance with the wishes of the people, we'd be funding the military properly, taking it to the terrorists and their bastard countries, and be giving them a war they can't believe.

Here's another good sign: the alphabet network news ratings are at their lowest in 20+ years.

8 posted on 06/10/2007 8:32:23 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Bad spellers of the world untie!!)
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To: samtheman
So, they turn to the circus and, for now, pretend that all is ok, ...

Life is a cabaret, old chum.
Come to the cabaret.

10 posted on 06/10/2007 8:34:46 AM PDT by LantzALot (Yes, it’s my opinion. No, it’s not humble.)
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To: AmericaTalks
Well celebrity fascination is nothing new - look up Fatty Arbuckle
11 posted on 06/10/2007 8:37:00 AM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: AmericaTalks

No one I know has mentioned Paris Hilton or Britney’s panties, and no one I know cares about either. No one I know has wasted enough time watching the “drama” to comment on its particulars. If you think this drivel is transfixing America then I believe you’ve been drinking too much media koolaid.


12 posted on 06/10/2007 8:37:04 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: AmericaTalks
What does that say about us ...

If I'm reading you right, it says this whole furor gives us a handle to get attention to something (completely unrelated) that we want to talk about. For that, Paris, we are grateful.

13 posted on 06/10/2007 8:38:42 AM PDT by LantzALot (Yes, it’s my opinion. No, it’s not humble.)
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To: AmericaTalks

Another thing to consider, 12 million people who circumvented long established law about illegally entry would have gotten a slap on the wrist for their continued crime spree (which includes more personal issues to average Americans like identity theft).

The media and politicians said we were wrong to want to see enforcement of our laws.

Paris doesn’t matter to me. Media hypocrisy and hyperbole is bunk.


14 posted on 06/10/2007 8:41:45 AM PDT by weegee (Libs want us to learn to live with terrorism, but if a gun is used they want to rewrite the Const.)
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To: samtheman

In 1998 America was distracted from the Clinton scandals by a home run race between McQuire and Sosa. Pushed the “bad news” right off the front page.


15 posted on 06/10/2007 8:43:35 AM PDT by weegee (Libs want us to learn to live with terrorism, but if a gun is used they want to rewrite the Const.)
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To: billorites
Pictures of the panties by any chance?

If you really want anything to do with that skank or her panties, you need to get your head examined.

No offense ;-)

16 posted on 06/10/2007 8:45:31 AM PDT by Recovering Hermit (There's another old saying Senator..."Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining.")
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To: hinckley buzzard
If you think this drivel is transfixing America then I believe you’ve been drinking too much media koolaid.

Sure it is transfixing America. At least the TV pop-culture America who do not get exposure to relevant issues worth diddley squat from the MSM and the alphabet networks.

If something more relevant were on, even the pop tart for breakfast bunch might opt for steak and eggs instead.

But the perception is that if it gets airtime, it must be important.

That is a media malfunction, and why our TV spends most of the time on cartoon channels when it is on, for the grandkids.

17 posted on 06/10/2007 8:47:58 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: weegee
In 1998 America was distracted from the Clinton scandals by a home run race between McQuire and Sosa. Pushed the “bad news” right off the front page.
As bad as the Clinton scandals were in terms of what they showed us about the character of our President, they didn't directly threaten your personal life.

This invasion does. Whether you can directly measure the minute-by-minute increase in that threat or not.

Every minute of every day, YOUR chances of being robbed and murdered by an illegal-alien is increasing, and every minute YOUR share of the illegal-alien welfare/healthcare/prisoncare expense tab is increasing.

Every minute.

You can't compare that to a misplaced Clinton cigar.

18 posted on 06/10/2007 8:53:29 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: Smokin' Joe

I turned my tv off several days ago... Every time I go to the grocery store, all you see in the check out aisle are scandal sheets with the latest ParisLohanAngelinaBradPitt crap.
No wonder we have turned into a country of mush brains. Unless you are self motivated to learn more than what the MSM dishes out, you are doomed to a life watching The View and reading the Star....


19 posted on 06/10/2007 8:57:21 AM PDT by captjanaway
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To: hinckley buzzard

>>No one I know has mentioned Paris Hilton or Britney’s panties, and no one I know cares about either. No one I know has wasted enough time watching the “drama” to comment on its particulars. If you think this drivel is transfixing America then I believe you’ve been drinking too much media koolaid.<<

Your friends are paying attention to real issues. I was watching C-Span as much as I possibly could (and calling Senators’ offices) but I’ll be that American Idol and TV gossip shows’ ratings creamed C-Span.

I’ll bet Bush has not read the amnesty bill he is pushing.


20 posted on 06/10/2007 9:01:16 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Illegals: representation without taxation--Citizens: taxation without representation)
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To: canuck_conservative
If you want to see more, do a Google Search using "Britney panties".
Yikes. You weren't kidding.
21 posted on 06/10/2007 9:01:53 AM PDT by Asclepius (protectionists would outsource our dignity and prosperity in return for illusory job security)
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To: mountainlyons

“I did not realize that President Bush had secretly started the Immigration Bill.”

He did? Lordy…Where have I been?

I do have it from an impeccable source, though, that Paris Brothel will become Bush’s Presidential Czar to the President. But then, another impeccable source states that it is going to be her Chihuahua because this will show Bush’s great passion for Mexico and the illegal Mexicans.


22 posted on 06/10/2007 9:03:48 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: canuck_conservative

thank you!!


23 posted on 06/10/2007 9:04:11 AM PDT by drhogan
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To: weegee
The public did(care about(the Immigration Reform Bill), you just didn’t hear about it in the MSM.

Direct hit weegee.

They won't even tell you why it failed cloture... they've cited everything under the sun for its failure EXCEPT the truth. MILLIONS OF PHONE CALLS!

America see's an out of control brushfire in illegal immigration... and our Senate is offering to fight it with gasoline!

24 posted on 06/10/2007 9:12:24 AM PDT by johnny7 ("But that one on the far left... he had crazy eyes")
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To: johnny7

To me, it is just an illustration of how the news is turning into lots of comercials for other parts of media conglomerates.


25 posted on 06/10/2007 9:29:43 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: AmericaTalks
We then sat transfixed as we watched the images of Hilton

Who's this "we," Quimosabe?

26 posted on 06/10/2007 9:30:51 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: canuck_conservative; Admin Moderator

This isn’t a porn site, OK?


27 posted on 06/10/2007 9:31:53 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: samtheman

“As bad as the Clinton scandals were in terms of what they showed us about the character of our President, they didn’t directly threaten your personal life.”

You are correct.


28 posted on 06/10/2007 9:42:35 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: AmericaTalks
I won't argue that the story was given disproportionate billing.

But the author engages in shallow analysis here:

What does that say about us as a nation? It says that we are hung up on celebrity status.

No, Dave, having an opinion about something is not the same as being "hung up." Some folks on both sides, even, had valid opinions about the general applicablity of this case to society at large. Some thought celebrities should not be coddled more than other lawbreakers, despite their wealth or notariety. Others thought celebrities should not get harsher treatment than similar lawbreakers. (Actually, both positons are consistent with each other, but often were voiced depending on how the person viewed Paris's treatment in particular).

In short, Dave, your readers can have opinions about both the Paris case and illegal immigration at a time and even walk and chew gum, so enough with the generalities.

Now, go write a column about something important and don't mention any celebrities if that makes you feel more profound.

29 posted on 06/10/2007 9:56:42 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (Duncan Hunter 2008 (or Fred Thompson if he ever makes up his mind))
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To: samtheman
As bad as the Clinton scandals were in terms of what they showed us about the character of our President, they didn't directly threaten your personal life.

If slick spent half the time and effort doing his job as he did covering up and dealing with his substantial personal shortcomings, I could almost agree with you.

30 posted on 06/10/2007 9:59:26 AM PDT by VoiceOfBruck (optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: johnny7

This is linked. That is why I think this is all bullshit. I want Paris Hilton to be treated like drunken illegal aliens. Release her to get busted and released like an illegal alian.


31 posted on 06/10/2007 10:03:01 AM PDT by BobS
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To: AmericaTalks

It’s not we. It’s the American mainstream media that’s transfixed on the harpy.


32 posted on 06/10/2007 10:04:09 AM PDT by Ajnin (Neca Eos Omnes. Deus Suos Agnoset.)
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To: ClaireSolt

Has anyone noticed the uptick in the number of Hilton hotels commercials on CNN?


33 posted on 06/10/2007 10:34:56 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: VoiceOfBruck

“If slick spent half the time and effort doing his job as he did covering up and dealing with his substantial personal shortcomings, I could almost agree with you.”

In no way am I disagreeing with you. You have a point. But I keep thinking: The best thing that happens in our country is when the congresscrooks are on vacation. Clinton’s vacation was all year every year attending to and/or raping women. He was also a drunk and on drugs and not attending to our country’s business, which I think, in some way, we were lucky. He left the rest of us alone.

Again, I am not disagreeing with you. It is my disgust with all those slimy, dung beetle crooks in Washington that keeps me from seeing anything good…if there is such a thing as “good.”

Regards.


34 posted on 06/10/2007 10:45:18 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Smokin' Joe

I had my tv on Fox News for a couple hours, but I thought it was the Cartoon Network. I haven’t laughed that hard in a while. I can’t understand the obsession, but it was a pleasant distraction.


35 posted on 06/10/2007 10:48:01 AM PDT by LilAngel (No blood for quislings)
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To: AmericaTalks

This was all real cute and cleverly contrived on the writer’s part, but what happened here is that the L.A. County Sheriff’s office lost a level of autonomy that can severely compromise their ability to deal with overcrowding rules and orders; either the sheriff runs the jail or the judge does - somebody has to decide.


36 posted on 06/10/2007 10:49:00 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: AmericaTalks

Little ‘Tutes...


37 posted on 06/10/2007 10:53:36 AM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: Old Professer

“…either the sheriff runs the jail or the judge does - somebody has to decide.”

Interesting indeed.

Thank you.


38 posted on 06/10/2007 11:26:41 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: samtheman; All

“Every minute of every day, YOUR chances of being robbed and murdered by an illegal-alien is increasing, and every minute YOUR share of the illegal-alien welfare/healthcare/prisoncare expense tab is increasing.

Every minute.

This is more important than anything else right now.
If we destroy our country, nothing else matters!!


39 posted on 06/10/2007 12:19:31 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

“I’ll bet Bush has not read the amnesty bill he is pushing”

Of course not. His open borders advisors have told him he got everything he wanted.


40 posted on 06/10/2007 12:21:40 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Not to mention the terror threat.

It’s impossible for me to conceive of deciding that terror is a big enough threat to fight a war over but not a big enough threat to secure the borders over.

What is the thinking that went into that decision?


41 posted on 06/10/2007 1:08:00 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: samtheman

“It’s impossible for me to conceive of deciding that terror is a big enough threat to fight a war over but not a big enough threat to secure the borders over.”

I join you in your mortification!


42 posted on 06/10/2007 1:19:55 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: weegee
Who do you believe more? A young ditsy girl or a lawyer who served in the Clinton Administration and was caught covering up for same administration?

That depends.

What does Sandy Berger look like in a thong?

43 posted on 06/10/2007 1:23:19 PM PDT by lowbridge ("The mainstream media IS the Democratic Party." - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: AmericaTalks

Just say NO to Amnesty!! Keep calling!! It’s NOT OVER!!

U.S. Senate switchboard: (202) 224-3121

U.S. House switchboard: (202) 225-3121

White House comments: (202) 456-1111

Find your House Rep.: http://www.house.gov/writerep

Find your US Senators: http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm


44 posted on 06/11/2007 1:08:28 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Fred Thompson/John Bolton 2008)
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To: samtheman

It is not the people that are beating that sick horse. It is the media, her handlers and those in positions of authority who want Americans to think about anything but their own interests and the interests of their nation.

Don’t condemn your own for failing to fully comprehend the evil which resides in the hearts of those in Power. It is those in Power who take every measure to keep the average American unaware and/or otherwise so burdened by concerns over a living that full and active participation as a citizen is beyond him..

W


45 posted on 06/11/2007 2:00:36 AM PDT by WLR
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To: WLR

I’m not condemning anybody. But most people don’t want to face up to their responsibilities as citizens. Period.

Don’t judge all Americans, even the Americans who agree with you, by the few people here in FR.

Most Americans would never think of writing or calling their congress-demons, no matter how much they disagreed with them.

Most Americans are out stoking the BBQ or watching the game on TV with their feet propped up and a beer in hand and if you tried to move them you know what they’ll say: “what are you going to do”.

And more power to them. I’m glad most Americans know how to enjoy life and their families and want to get ahead and not try to change the world. It’s a great attitude. But the downside is, they don’t want to get involved. They don’t want to pay attention. They don’t want people like us cajoling them and telling them you better do this or you better do that.

And the downside is, the evil scum in Washington (in both parties) know all this and can go about wrecking the country for their own short-term gain with absolute and total impunity.

And you know that’s true. Talk to your friends and neighbors. Not just the few who might happen to join you here. But all of them.

See what they say.

“What can you do?” -— that’s what you’ll hear


46 posted on 06/11/2007 4:13:57 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

Good point - if he had actually gotten anything accomplished, who’s to say it would have been helpful?


47 posted on 06/11/2007 4:25:01 PM PDT by VoiceOfBruck (optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: samtheman

It is not that the people are not active.. I believe their voices are muffled, their opinions are suppressed.

Just as C Span Censored Dr. Savage.. the Press, the Mandarin Class, and our Public Officials censor the people when ever they can.

They censored him by shutting of the camera. They censor us by cutting off direct access to our elected officials.

Citizens can work like crazy to get someone elected like Congressmen Cunningham only to be frozen out by Washington’s Republi-con and Demon-crat Party Apparatus. They then watch helplessly as their Congressmen is taken down.

We are censored by the Media who does not report our Rallys even when the participants outnumber the anti-American protesters as as happened in the Washington DC Gathering of Eagles.

They censor us by when ever possible at the grass roots level seeking the least articulate to state our positions. They censor us by setting our spokesmen up against 2-3 liberal spokesmen insuring the conservative position will receive no more that 30% of “equal” time.

They censor us by under or failing to report accurately the calls, e-mails and letters the elected officials receive from us. (want proof?)There is no independent means of verification with regards to the number, subject and position of correspondence to our elected officials (how convenient). The staffer says X and X it is. Who is to know or say different?

Of course the information our elected officials receive conveniently corresponds to the ascendants desires. (or at least does not significantly hinder them). Finally our elected officials add their stench and act based upon that which is most profitable first, supports their political philosophy second.. The peoples desires or interests? A distant third if that..

I believe our conservative people are far more concerned and active than is revealed. It is not revealed or acknowledged because it is not in the interests of those in power to do so..

Where am I wrong?

W


48 posted on 06/11/2007 8:55:19 PM PDT by WLR
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