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Has anyone noticed that Environazis don't seem to care about the tree population anymore

Posted on 06/11/2007 8:10:41 PM PDT by Reform Canada

Has anyone noticed that ever since globalwarming has become the greenies big issue they have almost completely abandoned their other causes. Why don't we hear about the clear cutting of the forests and other green favorites. Obviously politics must be their chief concern otherwise they wouldn't have forgotten about their own issues.


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KEYWORDS: climatechange; globalwarming; ipcc; kyoto
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1 posted on 06/11/2007 8:10:47 PM PDT by Reform Canada
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To: Reform Canada

Time to hug a logger.


2 posted on 06/11/2007 8:12:15 PM PDT by Mrs.Z
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To: Reform Canada

...maybe they do but we only hear what the MSM wants us to hear.....like all bad news from Iraq etc....


3 posted on 06/11/2007 8:13:08 PM PDT by NorCalRepub
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To: Reform Canada

Trees produce CO2, the most “noxious” greenhouse gas! So at least the greenhouse gasheads are being consistent!

“Earth First — log the other planets later.”


4 posted on 06/11/2007 8:22:50 PM PDT by Nervous Tick
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To: Reform Canada

Here in Maryland they are pushing for a return of paper bags since trees are a “renewable” resource and those blue plastic bags are making Baltimore’s trees look like old blue haired ladies.


5 posted on 06/11/2007 8:24:02 PM PDT by icwhatudo (The rino borg...is resistance futile?)
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To: icwhatudo; fanfan; GMMAC; xcamel; DaveLoneRanger; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; Baynative; calcowgirl; ...

They have been trying to push for that here in Canada as well. Obviously they can’t get the political mileage out of saving the trees anymore so they now advocate cutting down more since the know paper bags will cost business more than plastic bags.


6 posted on 06/11/2007 8:27:21 PM PDT by Reform Canada (Kyoto=>More Unemployment=>More Poverty=>More Homeless=>More Crime=>More Rape & Murder)
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To: Nervous Tick
Trees produce CO2, the most “noxious” greenhouse gas!

Um, no. Trees eat CO2 and release oxygen. Back to third grade science with you!

7 posted on 06/11/2007 8:31:32 PM PDT by xjcsa
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To: Nervous Tick

My understanding is that when trees are young and growing, they suck a lot of CO2 out of the atmosphere. when they are old, they emit more CO2 in the atmosphere. One of the best ways to get CO2 out of the atmosphere is to plant a lot of trees, cut them down before they get old, and plant some new trees immediately.

Which is, uh, what logging companies do. Don’t tell.


8 posted on 06/11/2007 8:32:49 PM PDT by Our man in washington
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To: Nervous Tick

....ahem....trees produce oxygen from CO2 my friend...


9 posted on 06/11/2007 8:34:51 PM PDT by NorCalRepub
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To: Our man in washington
Thanks for this explanation - the best one yet; I didn't know about the older trees emitting CO2.

Very good case for the logging industry - maybe the Oregon economy can be saved yet!

10 posted on 06/11/2007 8:39:36 PM PDT by the anti-liberal (OUR schools are damaging OUR children)
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To: Our man in washington
when they are old, they emit more CO2 in the atmosphere.

When they are DEAD they begin to emit CO2. It is called decay or rotting. :o) I guess that also constitutes old. While there is still photosenthysis, they are consuming CO2. I suppose there could be scenario when part of the tree is rotting while another part is still consuming CO2. Would that mean the tree is eating itself.

I think I have given myself a headache.

11 posted on 06/11/2007 8:40:49 PM PDT by Tenacious 1 (No to nitwit jesters with a predisposition of self importance and unqualified political opinions!)
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To: Reform Canada

They deserted the little saplings for the BIG SAP. (converted to GORTHISM religion)


12 posted on 06/11/2007 8:45:16 PM PDT by Uncle George
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To: NorCalRepub
However, they do release massive amounts of dihydrogen monoxide into the atmosphere, and can actually increase global warming.

See:

Study: Emission of smog ingredients from trees is increasing rapidly

'No solution' found in more trees

Models show growing more forests in temperate regions could contribute to global warming
13 posted on 06/11/2007 8:45:33 PM PDT by DaveLoneRanger (As He died to make men holy, let us die to make men free.)
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To: Reform Canada

Especially since there are more trees on the planet now than any time in recorded history.


14 posted on 06/11/2007 8:47:25 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Elections have consequences.)
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To: Reform Canada

Should have pinged you to #13 as a reason why trees aren’t so important any more. (Note: I planted and am tending a field of many hundreds of trees, now a haven for deer and birds and cute little duckies, so not only am I NOT a hypocrite, but my carbon footprint is taken care of for several years!)


15 posted on 06/11/2007 8:47:46 PM PDT by DaveLoneRanger (As He died to make men holy, let us die to make men free.)
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To: Tenacious 1

New growth forests use CO2, but OLD growth forests because of the rotting vegetaion below them consume O2 and RELEASE CO2. Does this help your headache. Thats when they should be cut!! LOL


16 posted on 06/11/2007 8:52:55 PM PDT by gbs
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To: Reform Canada

How can they even talk of it any more? More of the U.S. is forested than it was in 1900.


17 posted on 06/11/2007 8:54:55 PM PDT by JSteff
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To: Reform Canada
I wish they would go back to trees. Not that I agree with not cutting any down, but I do agree with planting them. I love trees. As a kid I remember the cartoon owl, "Give a hoot, don't pollute, never be a dirty bird" and the crying Indian in the canoe. I miss the old enviro campaigns of trees and litter. Now it's just CO2 gasbag Al Gore.
18 posted on 06/11/2007 8:56:16 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: xjcsa

“Back to third grade science with you!”

LOL


19 posted on 06/11/2007 8:56:48 PM PDT by JSteff
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To: Reform Canada

I was just noticing that too. No talk about the vanishing Amazon Rain Forest either. Hysteria du jour.


20 posted on 06/11/2007 8:57:09 PM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: Reform Canada
And maybe because there are more trees in the United States that there were at any time before Columbus. And modern fire control practices have reduced grasslands while land every day is being reforested because our advanced methods of farming require less acreage.

The Woodland Indians as well as the later Indians were pyromaniacs when it came to largescale woodland burnings.

21 posted on 06/11/2007 8:58:00 PM PDT by the final gentleman
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To: JSteff

The greens were jumping up and down about cutting down trees for about 15 years so I guess we got about ten years of this global warming nonsense until they move on to their next lie.

What do you think will be their next apocalypse. I betting the protection of dirt.


22 posted on 06/11/2007 8:59:14 PM PDT by Reform Canada (Kyoto=>More Unemployment=>More Poverty=>More Homeless=>More Crime=>More Rape & Murder)
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To: Tenacious 1

“Would that mean the tree is eating itself.”

Astounding that Nature worked so great for millions of years even without Al Gore.


23 posted on 06/11/2007 8:59:56 PM PDT by JSteff
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To: Reform Canada

All green issues are red herrings. Greenies motive is to wreck the American economy and that is the sole purpose of their movement.


24 posted on 06/11/2007 9:01:40 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

..I didn’t know that......thanks....though I have read other studies that claim cause co2 is going up that some tress and plants are actually growning faster and storing more carbon.....thus increasing more o2 in the air....very wierd


25 posted on 06/11/2007 9:03:56 PM PDT by NorCalRepub
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To: gbs
“OLD growth forests because of the rotting vegetaion below them consume O2 and RELEASE CO2”

No wonder science has found that the spotted owls do better in new growth forests... the poor things couldn't breath in the old growth forests.

26 posted on 06/11/2007 9:04:13 PM PDT by JSteff
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To: icwhatudo

Funny how our “precious national resource” suddenly became a “renewable” resource. And hydro-electric is “environmentally friendly” again—who knew?!


27 posted on 06/11/2007 9:05:39 PM PDT by randog (What the...?!)
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To: Nervous Tick
>>>Trees produce CO2

???????

Trees produce O2

28 posted on 06/11/2007 9:06:58 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: xjcsa

bump


29 posted on 06/11/2007 9:07:31 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Our man in washington

bump


30 posted on 06/11/2007 9:08:50 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Reform Canada
It's quite simple.
Print media's raw material paper devours millions of trees per year world wide.
Why harm a liberal print media strongmen for this global warming thing?
31 posted on 06/11/2007 9:44:01 PM PDT by hermgem (The same)
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To: hermgem

Seems to me that their wilderness policies neglect trees so that they burn.


32 posted on 06/11/2007 10:08:23 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: JSteff
Spotted owls also prefer Kmart signs.
33 posted on 06/11/2007 10:18:23 PM PDT by MaxMax (God Bless America)
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To: xjcsa; NorCalRepub; Calpernia

>> Trees eat CO2 and release oxygen. Back to third grade science with you!

WHOOPS! I’n not smarter than a fifth grader! (& I don’t know when to stop FReeping and go to bed either!)


34 posted on 06/12/2007 12:41:58 AM PDT by Nervous Tick
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To: Reform Canada

The trees are “saved.” The old loggers are in their 50s and 60s and their knees have given out. The ban on logging since the late 1980s interrupted the passage of logging knowledge to the next generation and they are now a rare breed.

The enviros now have so many regulations in place that no one can afford to log except the big boys.


35 posted on 06/12/2007 1:12:25 AM PDT by marsh2
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To: Nervous Tick

I think you might have been thinking of sick, older trees. So, there was some truth there.


36 posted on 06/12/2007 4:29:01 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Reform Canada

It’s all about power, the power to run your life. Whatever it takes to achieve that goal, fine with them. It never was about trees, spotted owls or DDT, it was always about power.


37 posted on 06/12/2007 4:30:53 AM PDT by Tarpon
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To: Reform Canada

Environazis don’t care about anything, ‘cept the sound of their own shrill voices.


38 posted on 06/12/2007 4:33:20 AM PDT by LIConFem (Thompson 2008. Lifetime ACU Rating: 86 -- Hunter 2008 (VP) Lifetime ACU Rating: 92)
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To: Reform Canada

“Why don’t we hear about the clear cutting of the forests and other green favorites.”

Suggest that the federal socialist forests be turned back to the states for sale to private buyers, and green Freeper eco-nuts will pour out of the woodwork.


39 posted on 06/12/2007 4:35:07 AM PDT by sergeantdave (Give Hillary a 50 coupon for Betty Crocker's devils food mix & tell her to go home and bake a cake)
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To: Reform Canada; xjcsa; Our man in washington
Why don't we hear about the clear cutting of the forests and other green favorites?

Environazis like Loggers now because...

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As plants and trees grow, photosynthesis--involving the interaction of sunlight, chlorophyll in green leaves, carbon dioxide (CO2) and water (H2O)--results in a net removal of CO2 from the air and the release of oxygen (O2) as a by-product. Also, moisture is released to the air through evapotranspiration.

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When forests die and decay, or are burned,
the biomass is oxidized and CO2 is returned to the air.

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So loggers get to the trees before the trees is oxidized.

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Save the planet, remember no forests, no fires, no CO2.

40 posted on 06/12/2007 4:38:26 AM PDT by Major_Risktaker (Global Warming is a cover story for Peak Oil.)
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To: Reform Canada

They are already on that one. Just google “endangered soils”.


41 posted on 06/12/2007 4:59:00 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: taxesareforever; Reform Canada
Their next target is likely to be this twofer - fuel for
overpopulation and those damned motor vehicles... p>
42 posted on 06/12/2007 4:59:20 AM PDT by badgerlandjim (Hillary Clinton is to politics as Helen Thomas is to beauty)
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To: Calpernia

>> I think you might have been thinking of sick, older trees. So, there was some truth there.

You’re being kind. I wasn’t thinking of older trees... problem is, I wasn’t thinking *at all*! :-)


43 posted on 06/12/2007 6:33:58 AM PDT by Nervous Tick
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To: Mrs.Z

What ever happened to the rain forests?
They were supposed to have been completely gone by now.


44 posted on 06/12/2007 6:35:41 AM PDT by Holicheese (Zap Razdowler Rules!)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

dihydrogen monoxide is a very dangerous substance! Thousands die from it every year. It must be BANNED!


45 posted on 06/12/2007 6:38:46 AM PDT by Holicheese (Zap Razdowler Rules!)
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To: Holicheese

I once called a (generally conservative) radio host and made the case for banning it. He was nearly convinced.


46 posted on 06/12/2007 7:07:46 AM PDT by DaveLoneRanger (As He died to make men holy, let us die to make men free.)
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To: Nervous Tick
"Trees produce CO2..."

Living trees take in CO2 and produce oxygen. Dead trees that are decomposing produce CO2.

47 posted on 06/12/2007 7:09:40 AM PDT by avacado
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Thats good stuff! It sounds so evil doesn’t it.


48 posted on 06/12/2007 7:11:37 AM PDT by Holicheese (Zap Razdowler Rules!)
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To: xjcsa; Nervous Tick

Umm, yes and no. Immature trees consume more CO2 than they produce, mature trees produce more CO2 than they consume. Just as there’s an optimal time in its life to slaughter a steer or a pig or a chicken, so there is with a tree.


49 posted on 06/12/2007 7:14:49 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: xjcsa; Nervous Tick
Trees produce CO2, the most “noxious” greenhouse gas!

Um, no. Trees eat CO2 and release oxygen. Back to third grade science with you!

Actually, they do both. Plants consume CO2 & produce O2 during daylight hours, especially during growth phases, but they also carry out cellular respiration (which consumes O2 and produces CO2) at a much lower rate 24 hours a day.

50 posted on 06/12/2007 7:19:16 AM PDT by Sloth (The GOP is to DemonRats in politics as Michael Jackson is to Jeffrey Dahmer in babysitting.)
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