Posted on 06/12/2007 1:49:42 AM PDT by balch3
This Bump is for you alter.
Let’s worry about where We’re going instead of how We got here. (eventhough it makes for interesting debate)
We can’t change the past but, We can effect the future.
And yet the politicians and educators push on our children that “evolution” IS about the “origin of life”. And scientists do little to stop them.
Evolution would be much more widely accepted if it was not misapplied to history in a way that contradicts the beliefs of so many people, and common sense.
RIGHT ON! Every man, woman and child should immediately proceed to their personal computer and commence typing some sort of very serious personal opinion about Al-Qaida. Only by active and concerted participation in internet chat rooms can we hope to defend our country in the War on Terror!
I suggest laying in a good supply of Cheetos, and maybe some root beer. We're in this for the long haul folks!
>>>>I suggest laying in a good supply of Cheetos, and maybe some root beer. We’re in this for the long haul folks!
Actually, I was thinking more of working hard to ensure the election of a president and congress with enough reality focus and balls to do something about A-Q
A nutcase? The guy has a PhD in biochemistry ...
Tenets of Scientific Creationism
- The physical universe of space, time, matter, and energy has not always existed, but was supernaturally created by a transcendent personal Creator who alone has existed from eternity.
- The phenomenon of biological life did not develop by natural processes from inanimate systems but was specially and supernaturally created by the Creator.
- Each of the major kinds of plants and animals was created functionally complete from the beginning and did not evolve from some other kind of organism. Changes in basic kinds since their first creation are limited to "horizontal" changes (variations) within the kinds, or "downward' changes (e.g., harmful mutations, extinctions).
- The first human beings did not evolve from an animal ancestry, but were specially created in fully human form from the start. Furthermore, the "spiritual" nature of man (self-image, moral consciousness, abstract reasoning, language, will, religious nature, etc.) is itself a supernaturally created entity distinct from mere biological life.
- The record of earth history, as preserved in the earth's crust, especially in the rocks and fossil deposits, is primarily a record of catastrophic intensities of natural processes, operating largely within uniform natural laws, rather than one of gradualism and relatively uniform process rates. There are many scientific evidences for a relatively recent creation of the earth and the universe, in addition to strong scientific evidence that most of the earth's fossiliferous sedimentary rocks were formed in an even more recent global hydraulic cataclysm.
- Processes today operate primarily within fixed natural laws and relatively uniform process rates, but since these were themselves originally created and are daily maintained by their Creator, there is always the possibility of miraculous intervention in these laws or processes by their Creator. Evidences for such intervention should be scrutinized critically, however, because there must be clear and adequate reason for any such action on the part of the Creator.
- The universe and life have somehow been impaired since the completion of creation, so that imperfections in structure, disease, aging, extinctions, and other such phenomena are the result of "negative" changes in properties and processes occurring in an originally-perfect created order.
- Since the universe and its primary components were created perfect for their purposes in the beginning by a competent and volitional Creator, and since the Creator does remain active in this now-decaying creation, there do exist ultimate purposes and meanings in the universe. Teleological considerations, therefore, are appropriate in scientific studies whenever they are consistent with the actual data of observation. Furthermore, it is reasonable to assume that the creation presently awaits the consummation of the Creator's purpose.
- Although people are finite and scientific data concerning origins are always circumstantial and incomplete, the human mind (if open to possibility of creation) is able to explore the manifestations of that Creator rationally, scientifically, and teleologically.
Yup. A nutcase. And if he "really" has a PhD in biochemistry, then his gross ignorance is even more appalling. The posted article is rife with factual errors. To point out just one--he claims that the earth has always had a high-oxygen content atmosphere. The transition from a reducing atmosphere to an oxygen atmosphere is well-established by geological and geochemical evidence. And there are similar errors in every paragraph.
But as I understand prions, they are normal proteins made by protein synthesis in a cell, that get misfolded when they come into contact with a misfolded protein, the prion. Some proteins have a weakness or spontaneous tendency to misfold but they don’t come out of nowhere, but from complex life.
I can buy very short chains of amino acids spontaneously assembling, or very short chains of RNA, but for the two of them to get together, where the RNA synthesizes the proteins and the proteins catalyze and protect the RNA - I’m not yet buying that package.
Mrs VS
Put the crack pipe down and go outside for some fresh air.
Whether a prion can spontaneously be produced is unverifiable, but what I wanted to point out was that a molecule with no basic support systems can thrive and reproduce itself, as if it were alive. A molecule doing that is fascinating.
Lol, very pretty post! Those little guys have a very strange ‘aura’ of pixel dots around them, never quite saw a pattern like that before in all my ‘cleanup’ work on gifs!
excellent link.
Al Qadea can’t bring down this country. Only rot from within can do that, and the false religion of Dar*inism is right up there at the top.
I always figured evolution does not work as the sole source of the origin of human beings in the same way dropping a load of lumber from a mile in the sky will never see it land as a fully livable new home. There had to be an architect and whatever various contractors required to build it to spec.
Don't forget that living organisms are self-replicating, while piles of lumber in the sky are not. Perhaps that makes some difference?
no.
bump
Write a 1,000 word essay on the difference between "science" and "religion".
Extra credit for explaining exactly why astronomy is a "science". Or do you think the stars are holes in the sky letting heaven shine through?
Even if one wished to ignore teh massive amount of data which supports evolution, that a particular PhD syas anything means little to nothing to the scientifically trained.
What does matter is the hypothesis advanced by that PhD. Sorry, if fell flatter than a piece of matzoh.
;-)
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