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GOP Senate Leaders McConnell & Lott on verge of deal to bring amnesty back up for vote
Numbers USA email | June 12, 2007 | Roy Beck - Numbers USA

Posted on 06/12/2007 1:37:13 PM PDT by ruination

Friends,

Pres. Bush's meeting with Republican Senators at noon appears to be providing just the extra push that pro-amnesty leaders have wanted.

The Senate's top two Republican leaders -- McConnell (R-Ky.) and Lott (R-Miss.) -- are using this opportunity to pull 15 Republicans (of the 38 who voted against amnesty last week) back to Pres. Bush's side.

McConnell and Lott hope to get those 15 to sign off on a list of amendments they want brought up for a vote.

They hope to present that list to Democratic leader Sen. Reid (D-Nev.) by tonight!

To slow this down, please phone Republican Senators on the list below THIS MINUTE.

202-224-3121

When you think about it, the deal that Mcconnell and Lott are offering makes little sense. They are basically saying that they want the 15 Republican Senators to agree to vote for cloture in exchange for a chance to have their favorite amendments voted down.

Many of those same Senators may vote against the final bill (when it will take 50 votes to defeat it), but their promise to Bush, McConnell and Lott will be that they will vote FOR cloture (when it would take only 39 votes to defeat it).

In other words, they will vote for the amnesty in the tally where their NO vote would have the most possibility of defeating the bill.

Please call these Republicans and urge them to refuse any deal that wins their YES vote on another cloture vote.

REPUBLICANS MOST LIKELY TO SWITCH TO AMNESTY TODAY (* Senators up for re-election in 2008)

* Alexander (R-TN) Bennett (R-UT) * Cochran (R-MS) * Coleman (R-MN) * Collins (R-ME) * Cornyn (R-TX) * Craig (R-ID) * Domenici (R-NM) Gregg (R-NH) Hatch (R-UT) Hutchison (R-TX) Kyl (R-AZ) Lott (R-MS) * McConnell (R-KY) Murkowski (R-AK) * Smith (R-OR) Snow! e (R-ME) Stevens (R-AK) * Warner (R-VA)


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; congress; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration; noamnestyforillegals; sellout; vampirebill
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To: ruination

the amendment gambit is a bait and switch to get the bill vooted on as is. We’ve already seen how amendments that would fix the bill are shot down by the idiots supporting it.


51 posted on 06/12/2007 2:25:03 PM PDT by SCHROLL
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To: ruination

Just say NO to Amnesty!! Keep calling!! It’s NOT OVER!!

U.S. Senate switchboard: (202) 224-3121

U.S. House switchboard: (202) 225-3121

White House comments: (202) 456-1111

Find your House Rep.: http://www.house.gov/writerep

Find your US Senators: http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm


52 posted on 06/12/2007 2:29:13 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Fred Thompson/John Bolton 2008)
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To: ruination
Never had much use for Lott. But I used to like McConnell. He managed to kill that liking ;(
53 posted on 06/12/2007 2:31:25 PM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica ("Global warming" and "Climate Change" are the biggest hoaxes ever perpetrated by confidence (wo)men!)
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To: SCHROLL
go to your relatives and friends and ask every one to opt out of tax withholding.

It will take millions of us doing something like that to make them pay attention. I've always believed American government was best because we didn't have to resort to violence or demonstrations to make a difference. If this bill passes, we are a permanent minority and nothing we do will ever matter again. Honestly, I am becoming so angry -- I can't remember EVER being this angry about a political issue in my whole life. If Hillary and the Dems were doing this, you'd at least expect it from people who hate America and hate the conservatives. But from people who are supposed to be on our side? And love this country?

54 posted on 06/12/2007 2:31:51 PM PDT by justanotherfreeper
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To: ruination

Excerpt:

REPUBLICANS MOST LIKELY TO SWITCH TO AMNESTY TODAY (* Senators up for re-election in 2008)

* Alexander (R-TN) Bennett (R-UT) * Cochran (R-MS) * Coleman (R-MN) * Collins (R-ME) * Cornyn (R-TX) * Craig (R-ID) * Domenici (R-NM) Gregg (R-NH) Hatch (R-UT) Hutchison (R-TX) Kyl (R-AZ) Lott (R-MS) * McConnell (R-KY) Murkowski (R-AK) * Smith (R-OR) Snow! e (R-ME) Stevens (R-AK) * Warner (R-VA)

*****

Think so? Think these politicians are dumb enough to think that voting for cracked-open borders and amnesty will actually help their election chances?

Remind them it won’t.


55 posted on 06/12/2007 2:32:30 PM PDT by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: ruination

56 posted on 06/12/2007 2:37:38 PM PDT by Gritty (The Immigration Bill seeks above all to solve politicians' problems, not the country's-Thomas Sowell)
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To: nyconse

I just called Corker and Alexander’s office and got right through! I urge my fellow Tennesseans to call right now! Corker’s office 202-224-3344
Alexanders’s office 202-224-4944


57 posted on 06/12/2007 2:38:12 PM PDT by TN Conserative
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To: MinimizeGovernment

What a great summary!!!


58 posted on 06/12/2007 2:39:29 PM PDT by BusterBear
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To: Resolute Conservative
I just got through to Cornyn and his aid said the Senator is steadfast on opposition to this bill and will not vote for it.

That is good. But maybe not good enough. He must not only vote against the bill, he must vote against cloture. Hopefully, he has told McConnell and Lott that they will not get his vote for cloture...because if this bill comes up for a vote, it will pass. And that will be a disaster for Americans.
59 posted on 06/12/2007 2:42:30 PM PDT by goldfinch
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To: TomGuy

“So, who is spinning?”

There’s a lot in the current Senate bill that just duplicates existing law, like the fence.

It’s part of Bush’s deception in selling this bill.


60 posted on 06/12/2007 2:46:27 PM PDT by Shermy (“comprehensive” = “blackmail”)
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To: Shermy

TSnow was on CNN a few minutes ago.

Wolfie asked him whether Bush had actually read the bill. Snow’s response was that ‘he had been through it’.

lol

No one, except maybe Sen. Sessions, has actually read the whole bill. And that is the trouble. They don’t know what is actually in it and what isn’t.


61 posted on 06/12/2007 2:49:45 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: justanotherfreeper
But from people who are supposed to be on our side?

They're not on our side, in this case. They would prefer an electorate that will be happy to accept low wages, be dependent on the government benefits that the elites deign to provide, and be gullible and easy to push around.

62 posted on 06/12/2007 2:52:29 PM PDT by BusterBear
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To: TomGuy

I bet he will get a hair appointment for a dye job for that cheap wig he wears.


63 posted on 06/12/2007 2:58:00 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I'm gonna vote for Fred. John Bolton for VP.)
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To: justanotherfreeper

Write down a point or two and be sure you make it. I find that I get overly angry when I don’t have something pretty exact memorized that I want to say.


65 posted on 06/12/2007 3:01:40 PM PDT by California Patriot ("That's not Charley the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: goldfinch

Exactly. Voting against cloture is essential!


66 posted on 06/12/2007 3:03:13 PM PDT by California Patriot ("That's not Charley the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: justanotherfreeper

“For all the good it will do.”

I know how you feel. Senators are indeed hard for little people to influence. But a few probably have been influenced. Look at the list of key senators that’s somewhere on this thread. Focus on those.

The guilty knowledge that they’re doing this in utter opposition to public opinion in their party will have some effect, even if the bill passes the Senate. It can affect what happens in the House, and it might lead some senators to make up for their votes in some way. Also, those aides sometimes have the senator’s ear. The “base” becomes more real to them the more they hear from it. Effects may be indirect and subtle, but nonetheless real.

It is always better to do something rather than nothing!


67 posted on 06/12/2007 3:08:52 PM PDT by California Patriot ("That's not Charley the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: RegulatorCountry

When it comes to millions of illegals, most of whom are quiet, working stiffs, looking for a better life, we have to be both realistic and compassionate. They are here because our government failed to do it’s job, failed to secure our borders, and, now, sudden outrage wants to put full blame on those illegal immigrants. Our government is equally to blame for the current situation. Once the borders are secured absolutely, we can look at all kinds of proposals for dealing with those illegals already here. Certainly, we could ‘round ‘em up and ship ‘em back,’ but would we really want to do that, knowing it would make us look like some of recent history’s most notable villians? Perhaps, a plan for citizenship would be better. Three months to apply and two years to complete. If done, all fines and fees to be forgiven. If not done or not completed, then... adios! And that’s just one idea; maybe you have others.


68 posted on 06/12/2007 3:10:48 PM PDT by Continental Soldier
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


69 posted on 06/12/2007 3:10:53 PM PDT by gubamyster
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

That’s not right. I used the illegals’ 800 numbers today, and I was allowed to leave a message on voice mail once and got a “mailbox is full” message another time.


70 posted on 06/12/2007 3:14:42 PM PDT by Politicalmom (No self-respecting group bent on world domination would invite Angelina Jolie to be a member.)
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To: Politicalmom; eeevil conservative

Hmmmn. My calls (8, to 6 different senator’s offices, each during daytime hours) have gotten through immediately - always to a real person. But ONLY if I use the Mexican phone number.

Were you after hours?

(I have NEVER gotten anything but a busy signal to their regular office phone numbers. To either the people up here in KY, not to the senators in my home state of GA)


71 posted on 06/12/2007 3:18:06 PM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

During regular hours. I have called each of my senators over 20 times each in the last three weeks. I have gotten a busy signal once, voice mail 4 or 5 times, mailbox full 3 or 4 times. The rest I got through on a few rings.


72 posted on 06/12/2007 3:20:09 PM PDT by Politicalmom (No self-respecting group bent on world domination would invite Angelina Jolie to be a member.)
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To: Continental Soldier
They are here because our government failed to do it’s job, failed to secure our borders, and, now, sudden outrage wants to put full blame on those illegal immigrants.

As to the vast majority of illegal aliens, they are here because they paid $3,000.00 or more to some "coyote," who is likely also a drug runner, to knowingly break the law to come into this country; they have been shown how to apply for benefits immediately via brochures provided by the Mexican government; they are obtaining fraudulent ID by stealing Social Security numbers or just making them up; in short, they are evading the law of our land at every turn. These are not blameless victims, they are engaging in predation, at the expense of legitimate citizens of this country. Detain them, treat them humanely, and then reunite them with their families in Mexico, with all due haste. And, imprison them if they ever enter this country illegally again. That's not nearly so severe as Mexico's own policies regarding illegal aliens, and you know it.

73 posted on 06/12/2007 3:23:33 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: neverdem; Howlin; xsmommy; Continental Soldier
Nope.

What about; Your are here illegally, and have broken our laws and refused to pay our taxes, and are using our system for you and your family’s benefit.

IF you accept a single ABSOLUTELY UNIQUE ID card for every member of your family, and immediately start paying your FULL SHARE of taxes on the income you are earning illegally, we will not deport you.

BUT... You are NOT EVER eligible for citizenship unless you return to your home country, apply, and WAIT in line for full papers. (NO “out and back” for “head of household” while Momma and babies stay here, and get in line ahead of LEGEL immigrants who have waited years for the privilege of coming in.)

Further, since you have broken OUR LAWS to come here an work illegally, you will get IMMEDIATELY restrained and deported if you break ANY OTHER LAW while here. You are considered a probationary “red-card” immigrant, and you have received two strikes already: you are a felon by breaking in, and you are a felon for not paying taxes, therefore you have deliberately begun by committing two strikes.

You may NOT vote. Ever.

74 posted on 06/12/2007 3:25:29 PM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Politicalmom

Thank you for your efforts!

(I wish they weren’t needed ......)


75 posted on 06/12/2007 3:26:25 PM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
You may NOT vote. Ever.

Ditto that.

76 posted on 06/12/2007 3:27:21 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

AMAZING!!!!!!

btw—

http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/announcement


77 posted on 06/12/2007 3:27:40 PM PDT by eeevil conservative (UNASHAMEDLY AMERICAN MADE and an AMERICA LOVER!)
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To: California Patriot

I’ve called all the possible converts.....voice mail in all but one case.


78 posted on 06/12/2007 3:30:27 PM PDT by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: ruination

If this insanity manages to pass I’m done with the republican party. I will NEVER vote GOP again as long as I live. It’s time for all of them to go.


79 posted on 06/12/2007 3:33:21 PM PDT by Shaun_MD ("You can't trust Freedom when it's not in your hands" - Guns & Roses)
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To: Halgr

I got through to about half the Senate offices I called today — real people, I mean. About 2-3 p.m. Washington time.


80 posted on 06/12/2007 3:36:53 PM PDT by California Patriot ("That's not Charley the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: Halgr
These are the Rep senators who voted for the even worse 2006 bill. They will go through the charade of vetting the Rep amendments and then vote for cloture and then the bill.

Robert Bennett, Sam Brownback, Norm Coleman, Susan Collins, Larry Craig, Pete Domenici, Lindsey Graham, Judd Gregg, Chuck Hagel, Richard Lugar, Mel Martinez, John McCain, Mitch McConnell, Lisa Murkowski, Gordon Smith, Olympia Snowe, Arlen Specter, Ted Stevens, George Voinovich, and John Warner.

Add to these Kyl, Isakson, Chambliss, and Lott who voted against the 2006 bill and you have the cabal that will make it a Rep majority in the Senate voting for the bill.

81 posted on 06/12/2007 3:39:10 PM PDT by kabar
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To: ruination

Is either McConnell or Lott, up for reelection?


82 posted on 06/12/2007 3:40:26 PM PDT by no dems (FOX News: Drop that toe-sucking Dick Morris!!! His prediction track record is abysmal.)
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To: ruination
WHAT WILL DETERMINE THE FUTURE OF THIS NATION?

(A) BUSH'S CHOICE: THE SPECIAL INTERESTS





(B) THE FOUNDERS' CHOICE: THE RULE OF LAW

CHOOSE A SIDE! FIGHT FOR IT! DEFEND AMERICA...NOW!

CALL YOUR CONGRESSMAN/SENATOR AT THIS VERY HOUR, THIS VERY MINUTE!

83 posted on 06/12/2007 3:44:38 PM PDT by montag813
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To: The Blitherer

>dissolve congress and all go home<

I support that idea!


84 posted on 06/12/2007 3:45:19 PM PDT by B4Ranch (DRIP = "Don't Return Incumbent Politicians," – two terms, and they're out.)
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To: The Blitherer

I think that’s a great idea. Let’s ask them to just do it.


85 posted on 06/12/2007 3:48:57 PM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: California Patriot
Write down a point or two and be sure you make it.
That is great advice, I don't know why I didn't think of it!

It is always better to do something rather than nothing!
AMEN! I'm sorry if I sound like a whiney Democrat, but never in my life have I felt as betrayed by my party as I have these last three weeks. But if we're gonna go down, I'm gonna go down swinging!

86 posted on 06/12/2007 3:49:47 PM PDT by justanotherfreeper
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To: Continental Soldier
Certainly, we could ‘round ‘em up and ship ‘em back,’ but would we really want to do that, knowing it would make us look like some of recent history’s most notable villians? Perhaps, a plan for citizenship would be better. Three months to apply and two years to complete. If done, all fines and fees to be forgiven. If not done or not completed, then... adios! And that’s just one idea; maybe you have others.

The "progressive" France is set on returning illegal entrants to their home countries. And exactly who are you comparing "round 'em up" policies to? NAZIs? I hope not. I really do. The "you are a NAZI [for disagreeing]" is tiresome and shows no ability to argue constructively. So I hope that is not what you mean. And let's also place blame squarely where it belongs: a corrupt Mexican government that has cheated its people for over a century. And let's also note the "poor working stiffs" you mention broke the law too. Let's do that before implying any deportations are -- as I hope you are not implying -- NAZI like.
87 posted on 06/12/2007 3:51:22 PM PDT by bajabaja
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To: Continental Soldier
When the word gets out that we are going to start to seriously ENFORCE the EXISTING LAWS on the books, the situation will greatly improve.

What no one is talking about on this forum, are the horrible living conditions these illegals are creating here, both for themselves and for their neighbors.

You've got 20 to 30 Illegals living in one house, sleeping in shifts. Their toilet facilities are limited, so they urinate outside. Basically, they trash where they live.

Unscrupulous slum lords are looking to make a fast buck, while the Illegals only need a mattress to sleep on. Doesn't matter how nasty it is.

It's disgusting, and what's worse is I fear it will eventually happen in my own quiet neighborhood.

sw

88 posted on 06/12/2007 3:54:33 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife (Pray for Our Nation)
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To: SE Mom
he said the president joked with Jeff Sessions that he’ll come and raise money for him in next year’s election in Alabama

I don't know Mom, that sounds like a threat to me.

89 posted on 06/12/2007 3:55:35 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: eeevil conservative

See my additions on that thread.

Can we call about it (as scheduled ?) on Saturday’s Radio show?


90 posted on 06/12/2007 4:06:20 PM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Continental Soldier
Perhaps, a plan for citizenship would be better. Three months to apply and two years to complete. If done, all fines and fees to be forgiven. If not done or not completed, then... adios! And that’s just one idea; maybe you have others.

Let me make sure I understand you here. You think it is a good idea to put people who broke our laws to get into our country on the fast track to citizenship while allowing all the people who followed the rules to enter this country legally should wait for years. That so we can be seen as 'compassionate'?

Is that your position? If so, I strongly disagree. Those who crossed the border illegally should NOT be rewarded with citizenship. I do not think we need to deport them all but they should only be offered citizenship IF they return to their countries and apply for legal immigration like any other applicant.
91 posted on 06/12/2007 4:07:37 PM PDT by goldfinch
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To: TomGuy

—Wolfie started the current hour with a header about the immigration bill ‘granting immediate legal status to illegals’.—

He must have been scared of Lou Dobbs.


92 posted on 06/12/2007 4:27:40 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Nothing is better than eternal happiness. A ham sandwich is better than nothing. Therefore...)
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To: All

Maybe the title should be GOP Senate Leaders McConnell & Lott on verge of LUNACY. The way McConnell and Lott kissed up to El Jeje made me sick.


93 posted on 06/12/2007 4:34:37 PM PDT by rolling_stone (sOME)
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To: ruination

I thought Lott got pissed, went back to Mississippi, and turned into a pillar of salt.


94 posted on 06/12/2007 4:45:03 PM PDT by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: justanotherfreeper

Mega-dittoes!!!


95 posted on 06/12/2007 4:48:16 PM PDT by California Patriot ("That's not Charley the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: Ingtar
"What did they bribe Lott with this time?"

They promised to put his image on the no cents (sense) piece.

96 posted on 06/12/2007 4:51:33 PM PDT by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: kabar
There really is no more I can do to sway my amigo Senator Lugar.

After he voted for cloture the last time around, I demanded his resignation.

It has not yet been received. *sigh*

97 posted on 06/12/2007 5:00:48 PM PDT by HoosierHawk
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To: California Patriot

BTTT


98 posted on 06/12/2007 5:01:32 PM PDT by hellinpetticoats
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To: ruination
I just saw Jeff Sessions and Cornyn of TX say Bush has NOT changed their minds, and from the sounds of it, they don't know anyone who changed after Bush's visit. Of course, he may be making personal calls this week. Only time will tell.
99 posted on 06/12/2007 5:06:24 PM PDT by NRA2BFree ("The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves!")
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To: everyone

Here are most of the Republicans especially worth calling in the Senate. Call them no matter what state you’re from — their votes affect ALL of us. Point out that you’ve been a loyal Republican. Point that amendments aren’t enough. They must KILL the bill.

Area code 202:

Alexander — 202-224-4944
Bennett — 224-5444
Cochran — 224-5054
Cornyn — 224-2934
Domenici — 224-6621
Hatch — 224-5251
Hutchison — 224-5922
Murkowski — 224-6665
Snowe — 224-5344
Stevens — 224-3004


100 posted on 06/12/2007 5:08:50 PM PDT by California Patriot ("That's not Charley the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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