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Bush Sides With Mexican Killers Against U.S.
AIM Report ^ | 6/12/07 | Cliff Kincaid

Posted on 06/12/2007 6:01:28 PM PDT by Mike Bates

The State Department's top legal adviser told international lawyers on June 6 that President Bush is so committed to the primacy of international law that he has taken his home state of Texas to court on behalf of a group of Mexican killers. The Mexicans had been sentenced to death for murdering U.S. citizens, including young children.

John B. Bellinger III, legal adviser to Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, cited the case, Mexico v. United States of America, in trying to convince the attorneys that the administration is doing what it can to enforce international law in U.S. courts.

In the case, Bush has come down on the same side as the U.N.'s International Court of Justice (ICJ), which ruled 14-1 on behalf of Mexico against the U.S. The ICJ was headed at the time by a judge from communist China, who also ruled against the U.S.

Bellinger's audience was gathered at The Hague, a city in the Netherlands which is home to over 100 international organizations, including the U.N.'s International Court of Justice and the International Criminal Court.

Sworn in as the Legal Adviser to the Secretary of State on April 8, 2005, Bellinger is described by the State Department as "the principal adviser on all domestic and international law matters to the Department of State, the Foreign Service, and the diplomatic and consular posts abroad."

The Bellinger speech, designed to convince the pro-U.N. globalists in attendance that Bush is really on their side, should have been big news. Not only did he praise Bush for coming down on the side of foreign killers of Americans, in a major court case with international implications, but he demonstrated how far the administration is prepared to go to impress the "international community."

In a major disclosure, Bellinger said. . .

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bellinger; bush; dubyasoftoncrime; icj; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration; johnbellinger; marines; mexico; quisling; vampirebill
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1 posted on 06/12/2007 6:01:29 PM PDT by Mike Bates
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To: Mike Bates

Has he completely flipped out?


2 posted on 06/12/2007 6:03:14 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( Vote for Duncan Hunter in the Primaries for America's sake!)
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To: Mike Bates

bump


3 posted on 06/12/2007 6:03:22 PM PDT by lowbridge ("The mainstream media IS the Democratic Party." - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: lowbridge

bttt


4 posted on 06/12/2007 6:04:17 PM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President, 2008!!)
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To: Mike Bates

Well let’s not forget what El Presidente said yesterday in Europe, “see you at the signing” !!!


5 posted on 06/12/2007 6:05:19 PM PDT by Obie Wan
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To: Mike Bates

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6 posted on 06/12/2007 6:07:07 PM PDT by lesser_satan (FRED THOMPSON '08)
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To: Mike Bates

this illegal immigration crappola will be President Bush’s undoing. it is as if he is working for the Mexicans, and completely forgotten who put him in office. You work for U.S. Citizens President Bush!


7 posted on 06/12/2007 6:08:05 PM PDT by Cinnamon
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To: Mike Bates; Sidebar Moderator

Good grief. Unbelievable.

This post should be put in Breaking News, in my opinion. It’s a week or so old, but it couldn’t be more important at this particular time. Evidently it was swept under the rug and has only just been noticed by Cliff Kincaid of AIM.

I hope the moderators will read this and consider giving it top billing if it deserves it.


8 posted on 06/12/2007 6:08:13 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Mike Bates
The State Department's top legal adviser told international
lawyers on June 6 that President Bush is so committed to the
primacy of international law that he has taken his home state of
Texas to court on behalf of a group of Mexican killers.


If only partially true...I'm done with Dubya.
And will feel VERY good about that.

I pray this is a false news report.
9 posted on 06/12/2007 6:09:00 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Obie Wan
Well let’s not forget what El Presidente said yesterday in Europe, “see you at the signing” !!!

To which I replied, "see you in Hell, Bush!"

10 posted on 06/12/2007 6:09:45 PM PDT by Tarkus2040 ("Borders, language and culture!" --Michael Savage)
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To: Mike Bates
President Bush is so committed to the primacy of international law that he has taken his home state of Texas to court on behalf of a group of Mexican killers.

W is not a native Texan.

He is a yankee carpet-bagger from Connecticut.


11 posted on 06/12/2007 6:10:35 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: Mike Bates
"Bellinger acknowledged that "The first defendant to try to take advantage of the President's decision was in the state of Texas, which objected to the President's decision. In response, the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals ruled that the President had no power to intervene in its affairs, even to obtain compliance with an order of the ICJ. This Administration has gone to the Supreme Court of the United States to reverse this decision. We expect a ruling from that Court this time next year."

So here we have a case of the Bush Administration going to the U.S. Supreme Court in an effort to enforce compliance with an international court! And the case involves litigating against the President's home state of Texas!
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12 posted on 06/12/2007 6:10:47 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead ("nothing gets figured out if you don't bother to stop and think about it", Thomas Sowell)
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To: Mike Bates

If this is true, I hardly know what to say.


13 posted on 06/12/2007 6:11:18 PM PDT by freekitty
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To: VOA

I feel the same way. I have had it with Bush and his entire Administration and don’t want them near any of our candidates in 2008. Hope Rove packs up his suitcase and goes away — heard he is also pushing the Immigration Bill behind the scenes.


14 posted on 06/12/2007 6:11:57 PM PDT by PhiKapMom ( Inhofe for Senate 08 -- Broken Glass Republican -- vote out the RATs in 2008)
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To: Mike Bates

Is this the same president who refused to sign the United States on with the World Court in the Hague?


15 posted on 06/12/2007 6:12:35 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert (imwithfred.com)
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To: Mike Bates

Sometime in early or mid 2001 I remember a Saturday Night Life skit showing President Bush at a White House party stoned out of his gourd on the drug ecstasy. At the time, though I knew it was just mindless liberals trying to salve the great wound of losing the algore, I had to admit, the piece was amusing. Never in my wildest dreams, though, did I imagine, way back then, that the day would finally come when I would actually come to believe it:

This President is on drugs.

Major. Heavy. Mind debilitating drugs. There is no other explanation for the downward spiral of his thinking and his leadership in the last year or so.


16 posted on 06/12/2007 6:12:36 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: Tarkus2040

I can just hear him now with that weaselie George Bush laugh heh,heh,heh !!!


17 posted on 06/12/2007 6:13:11 PM PDT by Obie Wan
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To: Mike Bates

It’s like he’s the Mexican Candidate.


18 posted on 06/12/2007 6:13:39 PM PDT by Duke Nukum (The World is Not Enough)
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To: Mike Bates
This is HUGH and SERIES. I'm SHOCKED, SHOCKED I tell ya.
19 posted on 06/12/2007 6:13:58 PM PDT by rockabyebaby (My House is Guarded By A Shotgun 3 Days A Week.... Guess Which Days.)
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To: PhiKapMom

Hey, welcome back!!


20 posted on 06/12/2007 6:14:08 PM PDT by pissant
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To: PhiKapMom

And I know where I’d like to see him pack that suitcase.


21 posted on 06/12/2007 6:14:24 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert (imwithfred.com)
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To: All

I’m shocked that y’all are shocked at him doing this.


22 posted on 06/12/2007 6:16:04 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Mike Bates
Is this legit?

If so, wow, politicians like Bush are beyond evil, truth and justice is the enemy to them although they give appearance of embracing it.

Makes me think this is all BS though, can’t imagine Pres. Bush doing this. Is accuracy in the media some fringe kook site? Maybe they might be leaving some facts out to fit an agenda.

23 posted on 06/12/2007 6:17:16 PM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: Mike Bates

Unbelievable!... or at least it used to be. Today I believe it is possible.


24 posted on 06/12/2007 6:18:44 PM PDT by Gritty (The only concession the pro-illegal immigration crowd makes is to honesty - Debra J. Saunders)
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To: pissant

Thanks! Can you believe what this President is doing? I just heard on TV that this bill would make our borders less secure.


25 posted on 06/12/2007 6:18:49 PM PDT by PhiKapMom ( Inhofe for Senate 08 -- Broken Glass Republican -- vote out the RATs in 2008)
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To: DLfromthedesert

That was pre-2004...(2002 IIRC, though bilateral Article 98 agreements with many nations have been signed in the intervening years, apparently a pre-condition for US ratification of the ICC treaty - BOHICA)


26 posted on 06/12/2007 6:20:21 PM PDT by M203M4 (Vote Fruity Giuliani or the terrists will win! Abortion & gun control = price for freedumb!)
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To: samtheman
“Sometime in early or mid 2001 I remember a Saturday Night Life skit showing President Bush at a White House party stoned out of his gourd on the drug ecstasy. At the time, though I knew it was just mindless liberals trying to salve the great wound of losing the algore, I had to admit, the piece was amusing. Never in my wildest dreams, though, did I imagine, way back then, that the day would finally come when I would actually come to believe it:

This President is on drugs.”

I hate to say it but I agree. I was listening to him speak on immigration earlier today—unbelievable.

27 posted on 06/12/2007 6:21:19 PM PDT by samm1148 (Pennsylvania-They haven't taxed air--yet)
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To: PhiKapMom

Yes, unfortunatley I can believe it. He’s been awful on the illegal immigration. Well actually, he’s been the same as the chattering politicians have been for years. Not happy with him at all over this.


28 posted on 06/12/2007 6:21:35 PM PDT by pissant
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To: Mike Bates
He has truly become a pathetic traitor...

BUMP for great justice.

29 posted on 06/12/2007 6:21:42 PM PDT by Xenophon450
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To: DLfromthedesert

I hear you! I don’t get it — like he forgot he is the President of the United States and has an obligation to secure our borders. Doesn’t seem to matter to him or his Administration.

Will never forget on election night in 2006 when Tony Snow came out and said something about now the President can work on an immigration bill with the Dems and I was furious. Don’t think I have calmed down since then.


30 posted on 06/12/2007 6:21:55 PM PDT by PhiKapMom ( Inhofe for Senate 08 -- Broken Glass Republican -- vote out the RATs in 2008)
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To: samtheman
There is no other explanation for the downward spiral of his thinking and his leadership in the last year or so.

Unless it's a Machiavellian plot to give Republican candidates a better chance to run against him. ;)

31 posted on 06/12/2007 6:22:04 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: Paperdoll
Has he completely flipped out?

No. This is all calculated with an agenda in mind. There are multiple possibilities why he is doing it, and what the end game is. But rest assured it is not to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. Nor is it intended to benefit American citizens.

The real question here is whether Americans have the gumption to commit serious mass civil disobedience before things have gone past the point of no return. And I don't mean marching with signs.

I doubt that we do.

32 posted on 06/12/2007 6:23:26 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: Paperdoll
I wonder how many of these other UN consorts are either "Skull and Bones" or with another head on the hydra.
33 posted on 06/12/2007 6:23:48 PM PDT by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: Mike Bates

More Americans killed by illegal aliens than Iraq war, study says

When you start digging into the numbers the only ones that can be sourced with the feds are the number of American murdered in 2005: 16692
I have seen federal numbers for illegals held in jail ranging from 19.3% to 27% of the federal prison population.

Here's a sampling of USA cities wanted for murder. What you'll see is that in big USA cities like LA or NYC most of the murderers are Hispanic. Unknown are the % of illegals. In smaller cities the FBI will post the nationalities of the murderers. About 25% of the most wanted are illegals wanted for murder. This number agrees with the percentage of illegals incarcerated in federal prisons. +-25%

Pictures of top 10 most wanted in LA. Up until recent stories about crime in LA posted by the LA Times--the pictures included the nationality of the murderers. They were all foreign nationals and mostly Mexican.

Wanted for Murder in New York City.

Chicago wanted for Murder


Philadelphia wanted for murder

San Francisco wanted for Murder


New Orleans wanted for Murder

Pictures of suspects wanted for murder in Washington DC

FBI USA 10 most wanted. (two of 10 are Mexican nationals)

There are currently no exact numbers on the number of Americans killed by illegals. Part of the reason is that the government deliberately obscures the number. I talked on the phone with the head of statistics for the US Bureau of Prisons. He said his office wasn't allowed to publish the number of illegal alien murderers. Rather they were forced to put legal and non legal residents in the same category. I talked to ICE. They put out detailed numbers on illegal child molestors. However, they put out nothing on illegal murderers.

Part of the reason for the silence on the matter is that there is evidence to suggest that most Americans being killed by illegals are black--as is the suggestion in this LA Times Article.

All that said, it could be argued that if you include the number of illegals in state and local prisons the number of illegals in jail shrinks to 6% of the total prison population. Never the less if you multiply 16692 (the number of americans murdered in 2005) * .06 (illegal alien percent of total prison population) * 4 (the number of years the US has been in Iraq). The result is that more americans (4006) have been killed by illegals than have been killed in the Iraq war.

This point needs to be hammered home. Just as the liberals have hammered home the point about americans killed in Iraq. Needless to say,I think Bush has gone off the deep end.

To look at other USA cities go here http://stlouis.fbi.gov/ and replace stlouis with the city you want.


34 posted on 06/12/2007 6:24:36 PM PDT by ckilmer
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More Americans killed by illegal aliens than Iraq war, study says

When you start digging into the numbers the only ones that can be sourced with the feds are the number of American murdered in 2005: 16692
I have seen federal numbers for illegals held in jail ranging from 19.3% to 27% of the federal prison population.

Here's a sampling of USA cities wanted for murder. What you'll see is that in big USA cities like LA or NYC most of the murderers are Hispanic. Unknown are the % of illegals. In smaller cities the FBI will post the nationalities of the murderers. About 25% of the most wanted are illegals wanted for murder. This number agrees with the percentage of illegals incarcerated in federal prisons. +-25%

Pictures of top 10 most wanted in LA. Up until recent stories about crime in LA posted by the LA Times--the pictures included the nationality of the murderers. They were all foreign nationals and mostly Mexican.

Wanted for Murder in New York City.

Chicago wanted for Murder


Philadelphia wanted for murder

San Francisco wanted for Murder


New Orleans wanted for Murder

Pictures of suspects wanted for murder in Washington DC

FBI USA 10 most wanted. (two of 10 are Mexican nationals)

There are currently no exact numbers on the number of Americans killed by illegals. Part of the reason is that the government deliberately obscures the number. I talked on the phone with the head of statistics for the US Bureau of Prisons. He said his office wasn't allowed to publish the number of illegal alien murderers. Rather they were forced to put legal and non legal residents in the same category. I talked to ICE. They put out detailed numbers on illegal child molestors. However, they put out nothing on illegal murderers.

Part of the reason for the silence on the matter is that there is evidence to suggest that most Americans being killed by illegals are black--as is the suggestion in this LA Times Article.

All that said, it could be argued that if you include the number of illegals in state and local prisons the number of illegals in jail shrinks to 6% of the total prison population. Never the less if you multiply 16692 (the number of americans murdered in 2005) * .06 (illegal alien percent of total prison population) * 4 (the number of years the US has been in Iraq). The result is that more americans (4006) have been killed by illegals than have been killed in the Iraq war.

This point needs to be hammered home. Just as the liberals have hammered home the point about americans killed in Iraq. Needless to say,I think Bush has gone off the deep end.

To look at other USA cities go here http://stlouis.fbi.gov/ and replace stlouis with the city you want.


35 posted on 06/12/2007 6:25:30 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: rollo tomasi

Makes me think this is all BS though, can’t imagine Pres. Bush doing this.

I know two guys who wouln’t be surprised by this.Their names are Ignacio Ramos and Jose Alonso Compean !!!


36 posted on 06/12/2007 6:25:55 PM PDT by Obie Wan
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To: Obie Wan
Well let’s not forget what El Presidente said yesterday in Europe, “see you at the signing” !!!

In the old West it would have been, "see you at the hanging"!!!

37 posted on 06/12/2007 6:26:10 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Mike Bates

Meanwhile Campeon and Ramos are left twisting in the wind.


38 posted on 06/12/2007 6:26:14 PM PDT by windsorknot
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To: rollo tomasi

...???legit!!! say it’s not true! oh my, oh my!!!


39 posted on 06/12/2007 6:26:39 PM PDT by gargoyle
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To: ChildOfThe60s

In Sunday’s paper here in Tucson there was an article about how 80% of births in our state are paid for by the taxpayers. And (this will sound racist, I know) most are Hispanic because they have more babies.


40 posted on 06/12/2007 6:26:54 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert (imwithfred.com)
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To: Obie Wan

President Bush is passionate about this amnesty legislation more than anything he’s ever supported. It’s obvious that the Mexican oligarchy is prepared to reward him handsomely upon the passing of this bill. Notice how focused Bush is when speaking about his shamnesty bill; he doesn’t stammer, stutter or hem and haw. Clinton may have sold the masses on NAFTA, but Bush will NEVER sell the country on this shamnesty bill and the death of our country that goes with it! Not to mention the death of the Republican Party!


41 posted on 06/12/2007 6:27:04 PM PDT by Tarkus2040 ("Borders, language and culture!" --Michael Savage)
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To: Mike Bates

El President de Mexico Jorge Bush!


42 posted on 06/12/2007 6:27:07 PM PDT by Cinnamon
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To: Cinnamon

“..this illegal immigration crappola will be President Bush’s undoing.”

He is already undone. How much more damage can this man cause the nation? I am aghast how a POTUS could be the undoing of the country. I had always expected some flaming liberal to betray this country.


43 posted on 06/12/2007 6:27:09 PM PDT by 353FMG (Some say it's a melting pot, others liken it to a pressure cooker.)
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To: Duke Nukum

Beat me to it.


44 posted on 06/12/2007 6:28:29 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Reagan never called me a "bigot".)
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To: XeniaSt

....LOL.....funny how when Bush was elected he was a Texan, and now he is something else.....he is a Texan thru and thru....you have to keep him now......haha....none of our rotten senators from Calif are native but we have to claim the morons.....


45 posted on 06/12/2007 6:28:48 PM PDT by NorCalRepub
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To: rollo tomasi

He is doing it and the only agenda here is Bush’s. And it’s not your welfare, and it’s not protecting US sovereignty.

State’s rights? Same place as your’s....in the toilet.


46 posted on 06/12/2007 6:30:22 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: samtheman

“This President is on drugs.”

And so are the congressmen who support him on this immigration bill.


47 posted on 06/12/2007 6:31:03 PM PDT by 353FMG (Some say it's a melting pot, others liken it to a pressure cooker.)
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To: Paperdoll
Hey Base...

Base? We don need no steenking base!


48 posted on 06/12/2007 6:31:20 PM PDT by skimbell
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To: Tarkus2040

The Bushes and the Clintons share the same passions...so to speak.


49 posted on 06/12/2007 6:31:35 PM PDT by dforest (Fighting the new liberal Conservatism. The Left foot in the GOP door.)
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To: Mike Bates
I expect nothing less from Jorge W. Acting otherwise would have been entirely out of character for him.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

50 posted on 06/12/2007 6:33:26 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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