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Iraq - Blast at revered Shi'ite shrine in Iraq's Samarra (Golden Dome Mosque)
Reuters (excerpt) ^

Posted on 06/12/2007 11:32:39 PM PDT by HAL9000

BAGHDAD, June 13 (Reuters) - An explosion struck a revered Shi'ite Muslim shrine in the Iraqi city of Samarra on Wednesday that was badly damaged in February 2006, senior Shi'ite officials and a witness said.

The witness said two minarets at the Golden Mosque were damaged in the blast. Last year's attack on the mosque triggered a wave of sectarian violence in Iraq that has killed tens of thousands of people.


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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: goldendome; goldenmosque; iraq; islam; jihad; samarra; wot
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To: HAL9000

These Islamic extremists respect nothing, even their own holy shrines. The Bush Administration will be blamed for the actions of these murdering lunatics.


51 posted on 06/13/2007 8:09:19 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Our first responsibility is to keep the power of the Presidency out of the hands of the Clintons.)
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To: twigs
From what I’ve read, the Iraqis are probably among the most energetic and educated of all the Arab nations. Or am I wrong? Iran has that too, but it is not primarily Arab, is it?

Correct on both counts. The Iraqis haven't had the pampered lifestyle of their Saudi and Kuwaiti, etc. counterparts and tend to be bright, educated and hardworking. They're also much friendlier than people in other Arab nations.

Iranians are primarily Persians and tend to be well-educated, too. They just have a tendency to have really screwed up "leadership."

And in the leadership department, Iraq is still learning. This voting thing is kind of new to them, but the thing is, they are learning. A lot of them have told me they wish they had voted differently in '05 and will not vote with their hearts next time around.

52 posted on 06/13/2007 8:48:11 AM PDT by Allegra (Socks.)
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To: HAL9000

Fifteen security personnel under arrest. Baghdad under curfew. So far it seems Iraqis aren’t buying this time.


53 posted on 06/13/2007 9:32:05 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Treaty)
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To: FostersExport

Good point. But the Shiites in Iran are battling for the survival of their regime and need to bring the Shiites in Iraq (whom they regard as ethnic inferiors) into line. That sort of pressure can lead to unlikely events happening.


54 posted on 06/13/2007 11:27:41 AM PDT by tanuki (u)
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To: HAL9000
Now if someone would accidently bomb the Dome of the Rock Mosque in Jerusalem.....

Nah, it could never happen.......

could it?

55 posted on 06/13/2007 11:34:26 AM PDT by pctech
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To: leadpenny

Are the any muslims that aren’t extremists over yonder?


56 posted on 06/13/2007 12:31:10 PM PDT by Jaded ("I have a mustard- seed; and I am not afraid to use it."- Joseph Ratzinger)
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To: alicewonders

Ditto that!


57 posted on 06/13/2007 12:33:17 PM PDT by Jaded ("I have a mustard- seed; and I am not afraid to use it."- Joseph Ratzinger)
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To: tobyhill
The media’s trying to hype this one up into a frenzy.

You have it exactly right - The reality is the MSM are 24/7 looking to spin / lie all they can in a direct effort to help our enemies.....There is absolutely no denying this.

They hype stories, non-stories and complete lies constantly if they come from a premise that helps our enemies agendas (or hurts ours)....

Yet they go out of their way to spike the thousands of success stories for our side......Or to question every and any momentum our side gains...

58 posted on 06/13/2007 2:36:34 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: Allegra
Hi Allegra, This is shocking. I don't know what would happen in the coming days. I am sure Mookie will try to capitalize on this telling his ignorant followers that only he could protect them, etc. He has already made a speech in which he blamed the Americans for this, as usual.

I just saw this on the BBC website: The picture on the left is for the mosque before the previous bombing, while the one on the right is after the recent bombing. All that is left standing is the clock tower! Its such a shame, because this building is so rich in history dating back to the 12th century.
59 posted on 06/13/2007 3:04:39 PM PDT by Mr_Tiki
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To: Mr_Tiki

But is the clock still working correctly? Lets get our priorities straight..


60 posted on 06/13/2007 3:09:24 PM PDT by tomnbeverly (The saddest day in America will be the day that George W. Bush is vindicated.)
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To: freedomson

Too critical, so I’ll put an end to it. I announce here that I am the 12th Iman, praise be to Allah. My orders to my followers: lay down your arms and rally around Bush the Great, a man of caring and Supreme Goodness of Character (SGC). Hug one another, Sunni and Shi’te. Let the women come out from their underclass status, they are now equal to the men and the animals. It’s now okay to depict any prophet in artwork, and any image of anything whatsoever is now allowed, praise be to Allah and Bush. Dance, drink, light up, and lighten up my children. The Americans and the people of Israel love you, so love them in return. Love your mother and your father, but not too literally my friends. And sit down on Sunday nights to view “John From Cincinatti” and thus learn from the mature followers of the 12th Iman, who I am what I am, hot damn.


61 posted on 06/13/2007 4:48:23 PM PDT by KingLiberty (Give me liberty or give me. . .twins would be nice.)
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To: HAL9000

One less accused shrine to a false prophet!


62 posted on 06/13/2007 5:43:59 PM PDT by omega4179 (El 43.o presidente de los Estados Unidos De Norteamérica Jorge W Bush)
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To: HAL9000

Were any artifacts looted?


63 posted on 06/13/2007 6:36:27 PM PDT by LurkedLongEnough
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To: LurkedLongEnough

“Were any artifacts looted?” you ask. Only, apparantly, a short-lived flicker of hope for peace. And some cookies and milk left for Santa Ali-Claus in 1321.


64 posted on 06/13/2007 6:51:39 PM PDT by KingLiberty (As 12th Imam I declare 'Give me liberty or give me. . .twins would be nice.')
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To: HAL9000

Destroy all of them. kill them all. That would be a start.


65 posted on 06/13/2007 7:18:27 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Elections have consequences.)
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To: HAL9000
This attack was probably done by al-Qaida, and it's likely to cause more trouble for our troops.

Trouble that could easily be solved with 24x7 saturation bombing.

66 posted on 06/13/2007 7:21:01 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Elections have consequences.)
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To: liliesgrandpa
I know that Bush promised to restore it after the last attack. His spending of our money knows no bounds. <\I>

Bush refuses to spend to protect our borders or to care for veterans. He is a worse scumbag tha Clinton.

67 posted on 06/13/2007 7:23:20 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Elections have consequences.)
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To: Brad Cloven

Take away their guns, cars and matches..


68 posted on 06/13/2007 7:45:19 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Moose4

“I’m not sure AQ is Iran’s lapdog. AQ are fiercely orthodox Sunnis. Iran is Shi’ite. Sunnis and Shi’ites will gladly kill each other if you let them. “The enemy of my enemy is my friend” only works for so long with these nutjobs.”

Thank you for bringing some sanity to this discussion.


69 posted on 06/13/2007 8:08:29 PM PDT by TINS
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To: Mr_Tiki
All that is left standing is the clock tower!


70 posted on 06/13/2007 8:43:50 PM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: HAL9000

Sure looks like shabby construction.


71 posted on 06/13/2007 8:50:05 PM PDT by JRochelle
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To: BlackVeil
They say it was being guarded, but I am not surprised that did not work.

I'm pretty sure, Shiites were guarding it.

72 posted on 06/13/2007 8:57:54 PM PDT by bnelson44 (http://www.appealforcourage.org)
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To: leadpenny

“Sadr has called for calm”

Sadr sleeps with camels and it has to be soon realized that he has no real authority if he is taken out by one of our fine marine snipers, under the guise of just war actions of course. He and his group hate us whether we allow him to remain alive or not. So what’s the big diff? Let’s call him a casualty of war and get on with it.


73 posted on 06/13/2007 9:34:37 PM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?" "Because it's judgment that defeats us.")
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To: HAL9000

The suspects in the bombing came from the Salahadin Emergency Response Unit, not the 3rd Battalion, 3rd Brigade of the 1st Iraqi National Police Division (3-3-1 INP), according to Multinational Division North. “I can confirm ... that Brig. Gen. Duraid, deputy commander for the National Police in Samarra, did arrest the Emergency Response Unit Iraqi Police commander and 12 of his Iraqi police who had been guarding the mosque at the time of the explosions,” Major Tage J. Rainsford, the spokesman for Major General Benjamin Mixon, told FOX News this evening.

DJ Elliott, the editor and researcher behind The Fourth Rail’s Iraqi Security Forces Order Of Battle, noted the Salahadin Emergency Response Unit [ERU] is essentially the provincial SWAT unit. The ERU is known as the 3rd ERU battalion of the Salahadin Provincial Iraqi Police. The unit designation explains the earlier confusion between the units (3rd ERU verses the 3-3-1 INP). The 3-3-1 was responsible for security of the mosque, but was slated to move to Baghdad this month as part of a newly formed Military Police brigade.

Earlier in the day, conflicting reports indicated that there was a conflict between two units, and in one case a skirmish, although the units were not identified. A likely scenario is the Salahadin Emergency Response Unit was assigned to secure the al-Askaria mosque, and al Qaeda infiltrators took advantage of the change in command to destroy the minarets.

http://billroggio.com/archives/2007/06/samarra_mosque_bombi.php


74 posted on 06/13/2007 10:06:46 PM PDT by bnelson44 (http://www.appealforcourage.org)
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To: alicewonders

“For centuries they’ve polluted the world with their sickness,”

but before that, they knew more than the west in the late middle ages on some subjects. I don’t have a problem with Islam in history; they have done what anyone with power and numbers has done. The christian crusades and various territorial actions (including the new world) are little better if that.

religion has always been a good mechanism to manipulate people into either fighting or supporting a war (this includes christianity, the vatican is one of the bigger offenders in western history post-western-empire, even without including such important unintended events as the sack of constantinople by the 4th crusade) but the major problems with islam **today** are 1) radical wahabbism (thank you saudi arabia) and 2) Iran.

Unfortunately, neither seems particularly amenable to 21st century western solutions.


75 posted on 06/14/2007 1:27:16 AM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: HAL9000

Between this and what’s going on in the Gaza Strip, i’m convinced there is no absolutely hope for these islamists. They should be completely isolated and allowed to destroy themselves. There have no ability to reason, they destroy their own governments, their own shrines, their own future.

It proves a point however. If the islamists have no little regard for their own future, it proves they have abslutely no second thoughts about attacking western civilization.


76 posted on 06/14/2007 5:58:44 AM PDT by finnman69 (May Paris Hilton’s plane crash into Britney Spears house while Lindsey Lohan is over doing coke)
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To: leadpenny
After last year's bombing, the mosque was guarded by about 60 Federal Protection Service forces and 25 local Iraqi police who kept watch on the perimeter, according to Samarra city officials

Looks like their security was worthless. They must have had the al Keystone Cops.

77 posted on 06/14/2007 6:16:19 AM PDT by finnman69 (May Paris Hilton’s plane crash into Britney Spears house while Lindsey Lohan is over doing coke)
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To: HAL9000
Its no coincidence that Iranian controlled Hamas is simultaneously stirring up Gaza.

Iran sees Putin being belligerent, and the democrat party falling over each other to be the best dhimmi (calling WoT a bumper sticker, etc), with Bush on his way out in half a year... they see a great time to ‘dig in’ and fortify what they’ve been angling for on several fronts.

78 posted on 06/14/2007 9:08:48 AM PDT by FreedomNeocon (Success is not final; Failure is not fatal; it is the courage to continue that counts -- Churchill)
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To: HAL9000

12th Imam bump


79 posted on 06/14/2007 2:24:15 PM PDT by Dajjal
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

Yes, but a solid percentage of Iraq citizens listen and obey Sadr. After another day has gone by, and the entire region is facing rising conflict, we need some real leadership in the Mideast. I would hope Bush stops wasting time on his immigration sideshow and put everything he has into trying to solve the Mideast. It’s time to send in the Money, Guns and Lawyers for real, shake a big stick while really talking to everyone in the region, and send Condi to sit down with people like Sadr to at least access his sanity from a tableside seat. Maybe the head of the UN can join her, and the heads of Hamas and Fatah, the Lebanon crews, the Prime Minister of Israel, and the head of Syria, all sitting down together, locking the door, and solving the entire matter before countries like Turkey and others really start to play.


80 posted on 06/14/2007 2:25:31 PM PDT by KingLiberty (As 12th Imam I declare 'Give me liberty or give me. . .twins would be nice.')
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To: liliesgrandpa

Tax money to pay for repairs of a religious property? Heck - we have to fight lawsuits here over public displays of the cross and our own US FLAG on public property....


81 posted on 06/14/2007 5:02:54 PM PDT by TheBattman (I've got TWO QUESTIONS for you....)
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To: KingLiberty

“Yes, but a solid percentage of Iraq citizens listen and obey Sadr.”

as do many other blind faithful. but it doesn’t legitimize leadership but ignorant foolishness. take him out. see who comes out instead.


82 posted on 06/14/2007 11:33:42 PM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?" "Because it's judgment that defeats us.")
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To: WoofDog123
but before that, they knew more than the west in the late middle ages on some subjects.

The cultures in the lands that Islam took over were vibrant and gifted cultures. The Assyrians, the Persians, the Chaldeans and many others. They produced art and medicine - and mathematics.

But then Islam began to 'bite'. The subject cultures lost their art and their learning, and started producing dreary, repetitive calligraphy - and dreary, repetitive fanaticism.

83 posted on 06/15/2007 3:47:49 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: HAL9000; rageaholic

Now you see it (the mosque); now you don’t. LOL.


84 posted on 06/15/2007 10:29:16 PM PDT by John Frum
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To: Alouette
All that is left standing is the clock tower!

1.21 jighadi watts will do that every time...

85 posted on 06/16/2007 5:42:24 PM PDT by FDNYRHEROES (Always bring a liberal to a gunfight)
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