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To: nthompsonwhitehouse
Oh, puhleeze. The entire problem has been employers are presented with documentation they know is fraudulent, but wink wink nudge nudge they take it at face value -- you CANNOT prove they "knowingly" hired an illegal! (and in the employers defense if they challenge it the EEOC kicks them for being racist.) The stupid employment verification system in the bill says you CANNOT fire the illegal until ALL his appeals are exhausted -- kinda like being on death row.

But you aren't fooling anyone, you know all that and you've read Senator Session's take down of your bill. Here's what I want to know: Why are you fools supporting a bill that will make us a permanent minority party?

I come from California. I was a pollwatcher as a kid in the Carter - Ford race, was involved with a lot of assembly and state senate races. Typical volunteer. I watched illegal immigration change California from a swing state to a blue state, both due to stuffing illegals into Dem districts in reapportionment to increase Dem strength and because naturalized hispanics voted Democrat about 2 - 1. (We won't go into the illegal aliens who openly voted and bragged about it on TV, in the mid 90s, after the reporter demonstrated how easy voter fraud was the LA County Registrar tried to prosecute the reporter -- hilarity ensued.)

This margin was due both to overwhelming anti-American propaganda in the Spanish press and because they were poor and wanted taxpayers services. As one told me when I knocked on his door during a precinct walk in 1988 for a Riverside assembly candidate: "No Republicans, Democrats give you more stuff." Lots of middle class flight out of the state further drove our numbers down as folks got fed up and left the state (and, in fairness, suburban white women got very turned off by the GOP for reasons not relevant to this discussion which hurt us further.) And before you bring it up, anybody who tells you 187 is what turned the poor hispanics "against" us is crazy, they never were for us. The court overturning 187 did accelerate the middle class flight that began with the riots in 92.

I left California for Virginia, and I see here in Virginia the same situation developing. The democrats have ALWAYS been the party of the very poor and the very rich, and the GOP has ALWAYS represented the middle class. What, in God's name, makes you think if we import millions of poor people they will vote Republican????? It's a two fold political hit: If you think the Spanish language press or the MSM will give the GOP **ANY** credit for passing this "pander-sty" you are crazy -- AND why would these people vote against their financial interests?

This bill is wrong on policy and wrong politically. Please understand: if this bill passes I personally will never vote or volunteer again. It will be pointless, we will be a tiny minority and we won't matter. I have better things to do with my time then help a party bent on suicide.

142 posted on 06/14/2007 12:44:46 PM PDT by justanotherfreeper
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To: justanotherfreeper; nthompsonwhitehouse

It’s the comprehensive Destroy-the-Republican-party bill.

Texas’ Republican majority, a fairly new majority btw, is rotting from the inside. A fellow Texas freeper and I agreed that sham-nesty will make Texas a liberal Democrat majority state within a decade ... or maybe immediately given how angry so many people are about our own party over this. In Bexar county they found illegal aliens registered to vote, and some of them voted:

http://travismonitor.blogspot.com/2007/06/illegal-aliens-cast-ballots-in-bexar.html

As you mention, the census reaportionment *alone* GIVES ILLEGAL ALIENS AN INDIRECT SAY IN OUR GOVERNMENT, by creatin g ‘rotten boroughs’ with many ilegals, few citizens and fewer voters, but consistent liberal Democrats.

Taxpaying citizens get their representation diluted by this action.


156 posted on 06/14/2007 12:57:30 PM PDT by WOSG (Stop Z-visa amnesty! Call your Senator today! 202-224-3121.)
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To: justanotherfreeper

great post. you might be interested in this: http://www.allanfavish.com/immigration.htm


161 posted on 06/14/2007 1:02:02 PM PDT by AJFavish (www.allanfavish.com)
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