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Conservatives Get Ultimatum, GOP Pushed on Immigration
Roll Call ^ | June 13, 2007 | John Stanton

Posted on 06/13/2007 9:43:46 AM PDT by 3AngelaD

Senate conservatives have been warned by Republican leaders that they must either accept a series of largely symbolic floor votes on a handful of amendments to the immigration reform legislation or see themselves shut out of the process altogether when the chamber resumes work on the bill later this year, GOP lawmakers and aides said Tuesday...


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: 110th; aliens; amnesty; blowbackfordubya; brownshirttactics; deathofthegop; immigrantlist; immigration; intimidation; noamnestyforillegals; scaretactics; threats; vampirebill; youbigots
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To: 3AngelaD
What makes a republican president be for making 20+ million insurgents practicing voting New democrats?..

Any that thinks Bush DON'T know this will happen is smoking some strange weed.. He knows.. When did the Coup D'etat happen..

51 posted on 06/13/2007 11:15:26 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: Greg F
More time for opposition to organize.

The longer the bill sits there the more it will resemble bad meat.

52 posted on 06/13/2007 11:16:08 AM PDT by AU72
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To: 3AngelaD

Here’s a thread with some ideas for continuing action:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1847473/posts


53 posted on 06/13/2007 11:16:26 AM PDT by Greg F (<><)
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To: squarebarb

It’s like him. He’s always been in favor of illegals coming here.


54 posted on 06/13/2007 11:16:57 AM PDT by freepertoo
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To: Ouderkirk

FYI: The Independent Constitutionalists Party is conservative. I bailed out of the Repbubs long ago.


55 posted on 06/13/2007 11:16:57 AM PDT by drypowder
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To: hosepipe

I second that. Can we close the doors now?


56 posted on 06/13/2007 11:17:05 AM PDT by Snoopers-868th
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To: Zathras

No, actually the Amnesty Bill for for Jeb’s son, “44” as Jorge likes to call him. The Bush presidential dynasty will continue, as soon as the old conservative base is replaced with the newly created “legal illegal mexican” voting base with a half-mexican Bush running for President.

Bush is tired of dealing with conservative Republicans - so he plans to replace the old base and import a new base to do the job that Republicans refuse to do - vote for his nephew, George P. Bush aka “44”.


57 posted on 06/13/2007 11:17:15 AM PDT by Howard Jarvis Admirer (i)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Reid stated a few hours ago on the radio he’s not allowing anymore amendments and to take the bill as is. He wants 25 from the GOP to sign off on it or he’s not bringing it back.

Promise?

58 posted on 06/13/2007 11:17:16 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: All
I read-quote-"Every year our two borders experience 500 million border crossings."unquote

Could someone please explain to me how the hell that number of people can be tracked going back and forth?

59 posted on 06/13/2007 11:18:15 AM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: TaxxMann

I left the party one month ago.”
__________________________________
Ditto....4 weeks and 3 days ago.


60 posted on 06/13/2007 11:18:28 AM PDT by cowdog77 (" Are there any brave men left in Washington, or are they all cowards?")
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To: sheana

Whatever it takes to kill it is fine with me. Go for it Harry.


61 posted on 06/13/2007 11:18:39 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Guenevere
Finally a sensible post.

All I hear in the media and everywhere is bashing of the GOP while giving Democrats who are for Amnesty a pass.

Well if you look at the last vote that actually counted Democrat senators voted at 86% to pass this Amnesty bill and Republican Senators voted at least 86% to kill this Amnesty Bill. These R Senators should be thanked not bashed and supported. The GOP is opposing Bush

Only 8 out of 50-51 democrat senators voted to kill this bill. that's 86% Democrat Senators for Amnesty for illegals

Only 7 out of 49 Republican senators voted not to kill this bill. That's 86% Republican Senators against Amnesty for illegals..

This Amnesty bill would destroy the U.S.A by bringing in the family members of the illegals who would get Amnesty. this Amnesty bill would reward criminals who have invaded our country and in many cases stolen our Identities, murdered Americans, not paid taxes , joined gangs etc

Bush does not equal the GOP. Bush is just one more liberal who calls himself a Republican. I sent him an email that i will work blogging all over the Internet for his impeachment for crusading for this Amnesty.

62 posted on 06/13/2007 11:19:41 AM PDT by Democrat_media (If there is a need the free market will produce it. So what do we need gov for(only 3 things))
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To: gpapa
...there is much more opposition on both sides of the aisle in the House to such a proposal, and it thus die on the vine there as well.

Thank you for informing as to how things stand in the House. We have a bicameral legislature, and I know some Dem Reps, particularly in the Black Caucus, are not so happy with this mass amnesty. I wonder if anyone has taken a public count of support in the House.
63 posted on 06/13/2007 11:24:33 AM PDT by bajabaja
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To: 3AngelaD
"Senate conservatives have been warned by Republican leaders..."

Can we get the names of those "Republican leaders" releasing those "warnings", because I'd sure like to see American Patriots begin "contacting" those traitorous bastards.

Linsey Graham! SHUT UP, you BIGOT!

64 posted on 06/13/2007 11:24:50 AM PDT by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Bobkk47
All I hear in the media and everywhere is bashing of the GOP while giving Democrats who are for Amnesty a pass.

Well if you look at the last vote that actually counted Democrat senators voted at 86% to pass this Amnesty bill and Republican Senators voted at least 86% to kill this Amnesty Bill. These R Senators should be thanked not bashed and supported. The GOP is opposing Bush

Only 8 out of 50-51 democrat senators voted to kill this bill. that's 86% Democrat Senators for Amnesty for illegals

Only 7 out of 49 Republican senators voted not to kill this bill. That's 86% Republican Senators against Amnesty for illegals. Why isn't Michael Weiner ("Savage") thanking the GOP? Weiner is a liberal trojan horse. GOP and Republican senators who stopped this Amnesty and who are holding up against all the pressure to change their vote should be supported and thanked. Weiner doesn't want the senators supported cause he wants this Amnesty to pass just like when Weiner called for the Resignation of Hastert during the last election which helped Democrats gain power.

This Amnesty bill would destroy the U.S.A by bringing in the family members of the illegals who would get Amnesty. this Amnesty bill would reward criminals who have invaded our country and in many cases stolen our Identities, murdered Americans, not paid taxes , joined gangs etc

Bush does not equal the GOP. Bush is just one more liberal who calls himself a Republican. I sent him an email that i will work blogging all over the internet for his impeachment for crusading for this Amnesty.

65 posted on 06/13/2007 11:25:23 AM PDT by Democrat_media (If there is a need the free market will produce it. So what do we need gov for(only 3 things))
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To: 3AngelaD

Here’s the entire article which after reading, I quickly called McConnell’s office and told him that I didn’t like my conservative senators threatened and that if he wants a fight, he’s got it.

“Senate conservatives have been warned by Republican leaders that they must either accept a series of largely symbolic floor votes on a handful of amendments to the immigration reform legislation or see themselves shut out of the process altogether when the chamber resumes work on the bill later this year, GOP lawmakers and aides said Tuesday. The warning came as President Bush met privately with Senate Republicans in an effort to restart immigration talks that stalled last week after a failed effort by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) to end debate on the controversial measure,” Roll Call reports

“Although Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), Minority Whip Trent Lott (R-Miss.) and other leaders voted against several cloture motions late last week, they are pressing their Members to accept a deal under which Republicans could offer about a dozen amendments with a set time for debate. But leadership also has made it clear that if conservatives do not agree to the deal, they run the risk of losing their seat at the negotiating table.”


66 posted on 06/13/2007 11:26:29 AM PDT by RepNoMore
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To: 3AngelaD

Seems we Conservatives issued an ultimatum last week.
I guess we need to speak a bit louder.


67 posted on 06/13/2007 11:26:30 AM PDT by Build_The_Fence (Mr. Bush....tear up that Bill)
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To: 3AngelaD

—or pretend like they’ve bought this so they can defy their constituents?

Exactly what they are going to do.


68 posted on 06/13/2007 11:26:31 AM PDT by Build_The_Fence (Mr. Bush....tear up that Bill)
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To: massgopguy

Lindsay doesn’t need Rush’s help. his wounds are self inflicted.


69 posted on 06/13/2007 11:26:39 AM PDT by SCHROLL
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To: Zathras

How exactly? Jeb’s not in office now and after the utter failures of 41 and 43 the only way he gets in the WH is with a visitor’s pass.


70 posted on 06/13/2007 11:29:29 AM PDT by SCHROLL
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To: processing please hold

These are people who hold green cards and who are going back and forth across the border every day, people who live in Mexico and work in California, Arizone, New Mexico and Texas, and also live in Canada and work in U.S. In El Paso, there are thousands of people, probably hundreds of thousands, who have something called a border crossing card. This isn’t 500 million DIFFERENT people, it is 500 million border crossings. It is relatively easy to count heads going back and forth across the bridge.


71 posted on 06/13/2007 11:32:07 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: Bobkk47
All I hear in the media and everywhere is bashing of the GOP while giving Democrats who are for Amnesty a pass.

Well if you look at the last vote that actually counted Democrat senators voted at 86% to pass this Amnesty bill and Republican Senators voted at least 86% to kill this Amnesty Bill. These R Senators should be thanked not bashed and supported. The GOP is opposing Bush

Only 8 out of 50-51 democrat senators voted to kill this bill. that's 86% Democrat Senators for Amnesty for illegals

Only 7 out of 49 Republican senators voted not to kill this bill. That's 86% Republican Senators against Amnesty for illegals. And Weiner ("Michael savage") says Republicans are the same as Democrats.So Weiner is caught lying again and his communist,Berkley,San Fransisco, liberal roots are exposed.

Why isn't Michael Weiner ("Savage") thanking the GOP? Weiner is a liberal Trojan horse. GOP and Republican senators who stopped this Amnesty and who are holding up against all the pressure to change their vote should be supported and thanked. Weiner doesn't want the senators supported cause he wants this Amnesty to pass just like when Weiner called for the Resignation of Hastert during the last election which helped Democrats gain power.

This Amnesty bill would destroy the U.S.A by bringing in the family members of the illegals who would get Amnesty. this Amnesty bill would reward criminals who have invaded our country and in many cases stolen our Identities, murdered Americans, not paid taxes , joined gangs etc

Bush does not equal the GOP. Bush is just one more liberal who calls himself a Republican. I sent him an email that i will work blogging all over the Internet for his impeachment for crusading for this Amnesty.

72 posted on 06/13/2007 11:33:56 AM PDT by Democrat_media (If there is a need the free market will produce it. So what do we need gov for(only 3 things))
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To: SCHROLL
"Lindsay doesn’t need Rush’s help. his wounds are self inflicted."

Yep. He's fragged himself.

73 posted on 06/13/2007 11:35:43 AM PDT by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Is one of these “Republican Leaders” Mitch McConnell? He’s up for reelection in ‘08 and I can guarantee you he can kiss his seat goodbye if he is one of them.


74 posted on 06/13/2007 11:39:19 AM PDT by anoldafvet (Calculating the average global temp. is like the average telephone number; both are meaningless)
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To: 3AngelaD

This madness is getting out of hand!
One million people, a huge truck with a shredder in front of the Hill, and a loud demand for the bill to be shredded right away will end this. If these empty suits want circus then, let them have it.


75 posted on 06/13/2007 11:43:35 AM PDT by OneHun
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To: 3AngelaD

“or see themselves shut out of the process altogether when the chamber resumes work on the bill later this year,”

Riggghhtt...

like the group of 14 didn’t act the same,

and as if they will bring this up again later in the year...not.


76 posted on 06/13/2007 11:47:10 AM PDT by Shermy
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To: 3AngelaD

If it passed, it is time for all those that supported it to resign immediately.


77 posted on 06/13/2007 11:49:12 AM PDT by NY Attitude (You are responsible for your safety until the arrival of Law Enforcement Officers!)
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To: 3AngelaD
"Senate conservatives have been warned by Republican leaders"

Those few words tell it all. Republican leaders warn conservatives!

Enough with both the Democratic Party and Republican Party. If Congressional conservatives lack the courage to break from the two party system and offer US citizens a true American way, enough with them too. Neither the Democratic Party or Republican Party see conservatives as anything but an obstacle to their agendas.
78 posted on 06/13/2007 11:50:06 AM PDT by backtothestreets (NO AMNESTY FOR INCUMBENTS! - All must go back from whence they came!)
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To: Ouderkirk

Absolutely! I agree 500%. Sign me up.


79 posted on 06/13/2007 11:52:23 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: 3AngelaD

“You know, of course, this means war.”


80 posted on 06/13/2007 11:53:33 AM PDT by Little Ray (Rudy Guiliani: If his wives can't trust him, why should we?)
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To: ghostrider

Most of our presidents have been Illuminati. Wonder if Bush is. They believe in ONE world order. I know his daddy sure did. Scared the heck out of me when he was in office with that kind of talk.


81 posted on 06/13/2007 11:55:46 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: 3AngelaD

If this bill passes, I will end my support for the GOP once and for all.

I mean what I say, I will vote 3rd party or not at all.
I have already stopped contributing to the RNC.


82 posted on 06/13/2007 11:56:09 AM PDT by LM_Guy
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To: Ouderkirk
"Gotta start a national Conservative Party."

There already is one.

So join.

83 posted on 06/13/2007 11:58:37 AM PDT by Designer (When "taking a chance" on the outcome is not an option.)
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To: CindyDawg
"Who do these Republicans think they are? Democrats?"

LOL!

Post of the day!

84 posted on 06/13/2007 11:59:28 AM PDT by Designer (When "taking a chance" on the outcome is not an option.)
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To: ExTexasRedhead
I just called the Chairman’s Office at the RNC.
Very nice young woman fielded my call and appeared to either be totally ignorant or so blase as to give Cole Porter a subject for a new song (I know he is dead).
I told her that I was a long time republican and that I was very unhappy with the Illegal Alien Amnesty Bill and to tell Martinez that. She seemed to come back from a day dream and said, “Okie dokie”. Okie dokie?? So there is NO doubt that the RNC does not care and seems to be imploding, as it's base evaporates.
Gimme an effin’ break.
85 posted on 06/13/2007 12:00:44 PM PDT by Gideon T. Reader (DEMOCRATS: Not quite American. PALESTINIANS: A proud history of mindless violence since 1964.)
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To: hosepipe
1. He thinks that if we close Mexico’s relief valve, its gonna blow and we’ll have a Cuba / Venezuela on on Southern Border and Refugees.
2. He thinks that Social Security is in trouble and that, if he can’t privatize it, he might keep it goin’ a little longer with contributions from newly legalized workers.

Both of ‘em BS reasons to bankrupt taxpayers, create an insurgency in the US, and destroy our sovereignty, but there ya go.
Never assume President Bush is stupid. He has always done what he said he was going to do.

86 posted on 06/13/2007 12:01:36 PM PDT by Little Ray (Rudy Guiliani: If his wives can't trust him, why should we?)
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To: processing please hold
I read-quote-"Every year our two borders experience 500 million border crossings."unquote

Could someone please explain to me how the hell that number of people can be tracked going back and forth?

Know our government, they count the number of legs then divide by two and then add five percent. That explains all the slack jaw folks at customs.

87 posted on 06/13/2007 12:02:46 PM PDT by pikachu (Take advantage of Global Warming by purchasing Ocean view property in Denver today!)
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To: 3AngelaD; All
Listen up Senators

I will NEVER, NOT EVER surrender my country to lawbreaking aliens! This American citizen's vote will NOT be wasted on even a single one of you traitors who votes to compromise!

Because people who break the law are lawbreakers; there's no skipping around this to try and view this some other way. People who would present themselves upon our shores and borders, intent upon "seeking a better life" but whose very first steps upon our soil are made or have been made illegally, should only receive one freebie from our nation, and that is *** a one way deportation *** from whence they came.

NO "Anchor Babies,"

NO free education,

NO amnesty,

NO WAY!


88 posted on 06/13/2007 12:04:12 PM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (****************************Stop Continental Drift**)
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To: 3AngelaD
Gee, it would have been nice if Bush had used such tough tactics when dealing with the Democrats in congress from 200-2006. I guess the "new tone" only extends to liberals, not conservatives.

I'm done with this lame-duck. Give me a spring chicken!
89 posted on 06/13/2007 12:04:31 PM PDT by Antoninus (P!ss off an environmentalist wacko . . . have more kids.)
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To: Preachin'; Dante3
"“Is Bush mentally ill or evil?”

If you ask me... I think this is a family favor to Jeb’s Latino wife."

He's not at all ill.

Not to favor Jeb's wife, but try; "the globalists who got him the gig", and then it all makes sense.

90 posted on 06/13/2007 12:05:43 PM PDT by Designer (When "taking a chance" on the outcome is not an option.)
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To: 3AngelaD
"...Senate conservatives have been warned by Republican leaders that they must either accept a series of largely symbolic floor votes on a handful of amendments to the immigration reform legislation or see themselves shut out of the process altogether ....."
Gee have the Sopranos send their "enforcers" to act for the GOP mob bosses and Don Georgeo Bush?
Are they warning conservatives with death and dismemberment of them and their families unless they smile and vote yes to give Amnesty to more than 12 Million MEXICANS for the GOP-afia?

91 posted on 06/13/2007 12:09:19 PM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: Gideon T. Reader

Your story would be great on Levin’s show or Hannity’s show. We need to expose the leadership for the incompetents they’ve become. And, I might add, these are the people soliciting our money. They can’t even hire administrative staff whose brain cells are working. Someone should get through to the “Chairman” for his explanation and/or comments. Anyone game for trying?


92 posted on 06/13/2007 12:10:22 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: 3AngelaD
probably hundreds of thousands, who have something called a border crossing card.

Try over 4 million. Border Crossing Card (BCC)

The US/Mexico Border Crossing Card (BCC): A Case Study in Biometric, Machine-Readable ID

93 posted on 06/13/2007 12:12:40 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Gideon T. Reader

Okie Dokie? What, have their fund-raising efforts dropped off so far that they have to depend on slow, 12-year-old girl volunteers to answer the phone?


94 posted on 06/13/2007 12:13:15 PM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: oblomov
GOP = Whig

Whatever they are, these elitists are not Republicans. They are still the same Federalists with the same goals,i.e. having the country ruled by a well-educated elite.

Although, here is an interesting historical tidbit - The Whig party was ultimately destroyed by the question of whether to allow the expansion of slavery to the territories.
95 posted on 06/13/2007 12:13:29 PM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (The United States of America is the only country strong enough to go it alone.)
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To: gpapa

I hope you are right that if anything like the bill passes the Senate, it will die in the House! There will be no support for the Republican Party from me if any Republicans vote for this bill!


96 posted on 06/13/2007 12:15:33 PM PDT by seekthetruth
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To: 3AngelaD
You tell those arrogant bastards that think they run the GOP that THE BASE in going to beat the living crap out of them no matter how long it takes if the ram this BS Amnesty throught...

The Republican VOTERS put them in power... and we sure as hell can take them out.... Country Club RINO's need to remember that true Elephants have a LONG MEMORY... and can be very mean and vindictive in payback...

97 posted on 06/13/2007 12:15:40 PM PDT by tophat9000 (My 2008 grassroots Republican platform: Build the fence, enforce the laws, and win the damm WAR!)
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To: 3AngelaD
Anyone taking names?

Looks like we've got some folks to vote out of office.

98 posted on 06/13/2007 12:18:19 PM PDT by GOPJ (Why do open border lobbies push for amnesty while borders leak like sieves? (hint: new dem voters))
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To: 3AngelaD
Becoming part of the USA the proper way:

Mexican states should break from Mexican Republic, then petition our Congress to enter our Republic. It would require the new states to construct state constitutions that abide to the Constitution of the United States of America.

It took a former Mexican territory, Texas, years to win acceptance into our nation, but it is a proper course to American citizenship and acceptance.
99 posted on 06/13/2007 12:20:08 PM PDT by backtothestreets (NO AMNESTY FOR INCUMBENTS! - All must go back from whence they came!)
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To: 3AngelaD
Largely symbolic? Try useless! Lott said openly in a Washington Times article today he'll pull any amendments that pass from the bill in conference committee:

One key question is how to go forward even though several amendments have already cut at the grand bargain -- including limiting the guest-worker program and making it easier to deport those who don't qualify for legalization -- and several other difficult amendments could pass before the bill is final.
Senate Minority Whip Trent Lott, Mississippi Republican, said those amendments will simply disappear when the House and Senate go to conference.
"No big deal -- you pitch those before you get to the Rotunda," he said.
But that is just what those who oppose the bill fear.
"I'm really disturbed Trent Lott would say: accept an amendment, he'll pitch it in conference," Mr. Sessions said. "Whose side is he on?"

Look at link for the whole article, the amendments are sucker bait, even if they pass Lott say's he'll take them out.

100 posted on 06/13/2007 12:20:48 PM PDT by justanotherfreeper
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