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Conservatives Get Ultimatum, GOP Pushed on Immigration
Roll Call ^ | June 13, 2007 | John Stanton

Posted on 06/13/2007 9:43:46 AM PDT by 3AngelaD

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To: ken5050
...someone needs to warn these so-called GOP senate “leaders” that contributions to the 2008 RSCC are going to dry up harder and faster than the Mexican desert..

Good point.

141 posted on 06/13/2007 2:40:07 PM PDT by GOPJ (Why do open border lobbies push for amnesty when borders leak like sieves? (hint: new dem voters))
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To: Ouderkirk
IF this immigration/amnesty bill passes and the GOP supported it...I am going to have to part company with the GOP. Gotta start a national Conservative Party.

Most now realize, if this is not stopped, we are looking at tens of millions of their relatives to join the 25 million illegal aliens already here.

142 posted on 06/13/2007 2:46:54 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dirtboy
These a-holes would rather split the party than take the common-sense approach of enforcement first.

They are not interested in enforcement first. Actually, they are not interested in enforcement ever.

143 posted on 06/13/2007 3:23:21 PM PDT by Minipax
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

Somehow I don’t think Reid will get 25 Republicans to go along with this bill!


144 posted on 06/13/2007 3:30:31 PM PDT by TheLion (How about "Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement," for a change)
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To: squarebarb
"It just seems to very unlike him!"

Consider: Signed a bill saying he thought part of it was unconstitutional...after taking an oath to uphold same.

His current actions don't seem out of character at all.

145 posted on 06/13/2007 3:32:45 PM PDT by Proud_texan (Just my opinion, no relationship to reality is expressed or implied.)
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To: 3AngelaD

"Vote RINO! At least we'll put a sugar-coating on the cyanide pill!"


146 posted on 06/13/2007 3:35:46 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: everyone

Keep calling. Make the cowards feel the heat, and thank the good ones!!!


147 posted on 06/13/2007 3:39:08 PM PDT by California Patriot ("That's not Charley the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
This legislation is rotten to the core and nobody wants it except for a select few so why not tell the leadership to either dump it or we'll find new leaders? It only takes 25 votes to put in new ones.

Can you expand on this? 25 R senators can force a change leadership? Even if it's "only a symbolic vote" and we get 23, I'd be happy it happened.

148 posted on 06/13/2007 3:39:57 PM PDT by Principled
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To: CindyDawg
Who do these Republicans think they are? Democrats?

Heheheh, for the most part they do (and really are). How did the Republican party swell its ranks all through the nineties on into 2002 and on up but through the 'Big Tent' open door policy where Demoncraps found the only way to get elected to any office was to abandon their sinking ship party and change parties, to the glee of most moderate, aka liberal and unprincipled, Republicans. We're now paying the price for that foolishness.

149 posted on 06/13/2007 3:51:44 PM PDT by Ron H. (Another American Civil War - is it inevitable? Keep your powder dry!)
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To: Dante3
Is Bush mentally ill or evil?

He's a compassionate conservative. We're all just hardhearted bigots.

I don't know if the distaste that goes with compassonate comes through, so I want to make it very clear that it cause a very very painful, sickened look on my face when I say that.

150 posted on 06/13/2007 3:55:52 PM PDT by eyespysomething (Everytime you sling mud, you lose ground.)
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To: TaxxMann
I left the party one month ago.

The party left me in 1992 and I left them in 1996.

151 posted on 06/13/2007 3:56:16 PM PDT by Ron H. (Another American Civil War - is it inevitable? Keep your powder dry!)
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To: TheLion

We got to watch out for Bush though as he’s twisting arms as we speak.


152 posted on 06/13/2007 3:57:51 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: 3AngelaD
Senate conservatives have been warned by Republican leaders

I've got their warning.... right here!

Throw the RINO bastards out!

153 posted on 06/13/2007 3:57:54 PM PDT by Prince Charles
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To: Recovering_Democrat
I remember the “Fair Weather” Conservatives turning on Reagan during and after the Iran-Contra fiasco. Reagan wasn’t perfect but he was the best President we had seen in this country since Coolidge and some of the worst complainers were political operatives that should have known better. The alternative to Reagan was Carter and Mondale. The alternative to Bush was Gore and Kerry. No serious conservative thinker could honestly consider the idea that we would have been better off with one of those four liberal democrats as President rather than Reagan or Bush. It’s ludicrous.

Bush has always favored what could be called an open border and in truth it isn’t that different from what Reagan supported when he signed Simpson-Mazzoli in the mid 1980’s. We need to defeat the current attempt at “fast track” legalization by keeping the pressure on those Senators and Representatives that tip the balance. The ONLY hope we have of preventing it in the next administration is by electing a Republican Conservative like Thompson, Hunter, or Romney(?) that will veto any attempt at this type of “reform” in the near future.

154 posted on 06/13/2007 4:00:02 PM PDT by Oklahoma
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To: Principled

There’s 49 GOP Senators so 25 is what they’d need to change the leadership. I would imagine they have a procedure for recalling them though I seriously doubt it’ll happen. It would be nice if it did, especially if they keep making their threats.


155 posted on 06/13/2007 4:03:20 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Oklahoma
Yes, Oklahoma. I agree...as far as candidates go, my support is on Romney and/or Thompson.

Duncan Hunter is great, but I think he'll die the death of a thousand cuts from all of his House votes....his conservatism is very appealing, though!

156 posted on 06/13/2007 4:31:51 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: 3AngelaD
Conservative Republicans should refuse to support this abortion of a bill pushed by the most inept and treacherous president in history.

At least we KNEW what the libs were when we voted them in - Bush on the other hand, proved a real Judas on more than a number of issues, this one the most outstanding.

More than ever before its essential to contact your legislators and WARN them that if they DARE to support this bill, they will be voted out of office - one way or the other - in the primary or general elections.

They must be “taught” that public opinion and the views of their ocnstituetns MUST be honored or their will be consequences.

Bush knows he can walk away fr=om this act of treason and not face any consequences. Our professional politicians in Congress are not in the same boat.

The conservatives should be “warning” the RINOS, Dems and Bushbots that they will pay at the polls for caving in to special interest groups and refusing to listen to their constituents - the American voters.

157 posted on 06/13/2007 5:07:29 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: 3AngelaD
Throw the bums out.
158 posted on 06/13/2007 6:37:48 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Bush and McCain - the axes of domestic incompetence from CFR to La Raza)
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To: The Blitherer
How do you say “Screw you” in Spanish.

Uppayouz. No, wait, sorry, that's Italian.
159 posted on 06/13/2007 6:43:57 PM PDT by TheLawyerFormerlyKnownAsAl
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To: Oklahoma

“The alternative to Bush was Gore and Kerry. “

Pathetic, isn’t it?

Bush has been an unmitigated catastrophe in his second term.

Open borders is treason.

If the Republicans in Congress can’t produce a majority of their constituency to vote in opposition to this horrendous Kennedy-McCain contrived bill, if they fail to confront a lame duck President with near record low approval ratings, if they support a measure which every Republican candidate for President except one has distanced themselves from, if they lack the guts and spine and gonads to defy the Democrat Majority in Congress on this subject, if they ignore the overwhelming opposition of Americans from every part of the political spectrum on this subject - they are not fit to remain a viable political force in America. And they won’t.

I’m a Reagan Conservative who supported him on Iran-Contra and in nearly everything he did. I voted Republican for my entire lifetime of voting - registered Republican since Reagan ran against Ford in a presidential primary. I supported the present incumbet in his Presidential campaigns both times around. I have contributed to Duncan Hunter and Fred Thompson’s political campaigns and I would vote for Mit Romney - but with great reluctance. NONE of the other candidates running have a chance or seriously represent Republican principles.

But if those Congressional Republican Rascals fold like a cheap deck of cards to this President on this subject, I will be very actively working for a third political party to replace them.


160 posted on 06/13/2007 6:48:52 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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