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The Inside Story On What's Happening With The Senate Immigration Bill(NOT GOOD)
Right Wing News ^ | 14 JUNE 2007 | John Hawkins

Posted on 06/14/2007 6:16:04 AM PDT by radar101

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To: USArmySpouse
Some of us are suggesting 'protests' at the local level, if not state capitals or DC.
121 posted on 06/14/2007 8:02:19 AM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President, 2008!!)
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To: YellowRoseofTx
Well now that you mention how were being ruled, it does not pass the reek of the Hugo Chavez smell test.

Have the politicians in Washington gone out of their ever living minds.

This worse than Jimmy Carters Panama Canal treaty and his deal with the Chinese Communist.

122 posted on 06/14/2007 8:02:35 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, DUNCAN or THOMPSON 08, ELECTION 2008, MOST IMPORTANT OF MY LIFE TIME)
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To: kabar

Thanks for that well reasoned reply. Something that still bothers me was George Allen losing who always was standing with Inhofe and Coburn. Note the ones that were defeated were ones opposing this bill.

Have had a bad feeling ever since the election that there was something really wrong and now it has come home to roost. Bush wasn’t kidding when Tony Snow went running out on election night to congratulate the Dems and talk about working with them on Immigration. I have been disgusted ever since.

NRSC was inept in the last election and NRCC wasn’t much better and forget the RNC — why? How could well oiled machines be so inept not to spot major problems in States and get last minute money and push into those states and save a few seats.

Note: Frist was leaving as Majority Leader and Hastert looked the other way on Jefferson and Foley until he finally resigned late into the election cycle — too late to help. Bush gets rid of Rumsfeld right after the election. Frist twisted arms to get Lott as #2 — this whole thing smells big time.

Now we find out this bill is full of loopholes? If Allen and Burns had not lost, this bill would not be going anywhere.


123 posted on 06/14/2007 8:03:34 AM PDT by PhiKapMom ( Inhofe for Senate 08 -- Broken Glass Republican -- vote out the RATs in 2008)
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To: Guenevere
What can we do? The letters, phone calls, emails, fax....are fine and useful... ..but 'they' seem to have an agenda and will enforce it.

I don't know. Keep putting one foot in front of the other, do what what we've been doing. Hope that America will wake up.

And semi-seriously, consider buying a property abroad. Demographic jui-jitsu. Use migration against them. Uraguay is nice.

Maybe that's a discussion for a later thread, it's way too early to give up. But maybe not to be prudent.

124 posted on 06/14/2007 8:04:28 AM PDT by angkor
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To: angkor
you are exactly right. Most of their writings were about how to contain the "beast" of government. Contrary to our vile and corrupt leaders of today who think government is the source of all "good" our Founders viewed government as inherently evil. Our Founders were correct.

A good saying by Thomas Paine, "Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one.
125 posted on 06/14/2007 8:04:40 AM PDT by sand88
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To: Roccus

Roccus, when to start?


126 posted on 06/14/2007 8:05:51 AM PDT by gathersnomoss
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To: PhiKapMom

Note the date of this post.
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Sad really. I feel for you young folks and those of you with kids. America is entering its own Dark Age.

199 posted on 11/09/2006 12:39:11 PM EST by Roccus (Dealing with Politicians IS the War on Terror.)


127 posted on 06/14/2007 8:06:31 AM PDT by Roccus (People seldom do what they believe in. They do what is convenient....then repent.)
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To: Guenevere
We can't assume this will be neatly taken care of by the House!..that it will go away.

Who is making that assumption?

I don't know if it's possible....but millions of Americans in the streets of DC sounds like a good idea to me....or like Roccus suggestion....tens of thousands at each state capital.

Good idea, but you need people to educate the American public and organize such rallies. We need some national figures and organizations to get involved.

128 posted on 06/14/2007 8:07:22 AM PDT by kabar
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To: FreedomPoster

You are too kind.


129 posted on 06/14/2007 8:08:56 AM PDT by doodad
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To: Badeye
Trent Lott is simply a spineless moron.
130 posted on 06/14/2007 8:09:36 AM PDT by Osage Orange (I'm a man...I can change...If I want to...MAYBE.)
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To: gathersnomoss
released from God's protection...

Yet, we can still pray, and He may yet have mercy.

In the Bible, Niniveh was an evil city....extremely so.

But God spared Niniveh-(for a time)- when the king and people repented.

It was eventually destroyed.

However, the United States has looked the other way while the blood of 50 million unborn babies was shed.

Maybe this is His judgement.

But we can still pray.

He has mercy on whom he has mercy.

131 posted on 06/14/2007 8:10:05 AM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President, 2008!!)
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To: gathersnomoss
It looks as if we have till the end of this month. It will need a National organization to get it rolling. As I said in #67, the American Legion or the VFW would, IMO, be the ideal candidate. They are national, PATRIOTIC, non-political and unassailable.
132 posted on 06/14/2007 8:10:26 AM PDT by Roccus (People seldom do what they believe in. They do what is convenient....then repent.)
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To: Roccus; Guenevere
IF the American people are of like mind as we here at FR, I'm sure the crowds would grow each successive evening to a point that could not be ignored by either the media or the politicians.

Well that's the critical issue and the one I'm most concerned about. America needs to wake up to the impending disaster and the ruination of American culture.

It's already clear that this is an a-partisan, a-political issue (I heard even DU was ranting against it). So it really depends on help from our fellow citizens.

I have to say that during the Clinton years I put my every fiber into this kind of "activism." We even got an ear in the Senate and an actual bill as the result of the FBI files. But it all fell on the clogged ears of the American public and I finally left the country for a couple years.

It was a good thing to do at the time.

Personally I'll just keep working on it until I run out of steam. What else can we do?

133 posted on 06/14/2007 8:13:31 AM PDT by angkor
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To: Roccus

Screw parties, this is about the United States.


134 posted on 06/14/2007 8:14:06 AM PDT by gathersnomoss
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To: Huck

I can’t disagree with you BUMP!


135 posted on 06/14/2007 8:14:12 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: gathersnomoss

YUP!


136 posted on 06/14/2007 8:14:54 AM PDT by Roccus (People seldom do what they believe in. They do what is convenient....then repent.)
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To: angkor

That’s exactly what I am hearing as well from some staffers I know. Comments made by Sen Inhofe are beginning to make sense. I think Sessions nailed it completely about what has been happening.

Don’t want to see or hear Frist again ever. Too close to the WH, Rove, and the Dems for me.

Someone questioned my turning on Pres Bush the other day in Freep Mail. Excuse me but every Republican that worked for the Bush election in 2000 and 2004 should be mad and making no excuses for this travesty that will lessen our security not increase it. I find out from a source that Rove is really twisting arms to get this passed and I am even more mad.

People better take a hard look at every last campaign no matter what they say and see who is working for them. We cannot afford to have Rove and his Bush buddies near the WH again IMHO. That is said by a long time Bush supporter going back to 1994. IOTW, forget the rhetoric and see who is pulling the strings. Look at every Senate and House race as well to see who is pulling the strings for the campaign.

We have just had cold water thrown on all of us that this President and Rove who will do anything to get this bill passed. We have to be prepared if it passes the Senate to put intense pressure on the House to kill this bill.

I saw the look on Kay Bailey’s face when Bush spoke and she was not happy. She had no choice but to escort him as the ranking TX Senator but you could tell she was disgusted.

I have stopped all monthly donations to NRSC, NRCC, and RNC and they will not see a penny for sometime to come. In one case I had to change checking accounts to get it to stop. My money goes to Jim Inhofe’s reelection campaign along with my hours to help him get reelected.


137 posted on 06/14/2007 8:15:03 AM PDT by PhiKapMom ( Inhofe for Senate 08 -- Broken Glass Republican -- vote out the RATs in 2008)
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To: gathersnomoss
I heard a speaker on AFR state that GOD has ignored country’s in the past due to their moral failings. The speaker stated that he believes the United States has been released from GOD’s protection.

I have often wondered about this. I have also heard historians make similar analogies of past civilizations.

138 posted on 06/14/2007 8:15:22 AM PDT by ghostrider
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To: indylindy; kabar
I hate to say that you are correct.

There will be market demand from both sides. Not only legalization processes for our newest "citizens", but asset protection, emigration services & regional planning for the losers.

All one has to do is visit any major city in Latin America to see what's in store for us. Note the gated neighborhoods, high walls & razor wire, private guards, etc. There will be big bucks in developing regional planning guides as cities & neighborhoods investigate ways in which to prevent block busting.

139 posted on 06/14/2007 8:16:55 AM PDT by Chuck Dent
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To: kabar; Guenevere
The very fact that the WH and the Senate will resurrect it again demonstrates the disdain they have for the people.

For the 4th time in GWB's presidency!

I think this is unprecedented in American history, but I could be wrong.

140 posted on 06/14/2007 8:17:18 AM PDT by angkor
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