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The Inside Story On What's Happening With The Senate Immigration Bill(NOT GOOD)
Right Wing News ^ | 14 JUNE 2007 | John Hawkins

Posted on 06/14/2007 6:16:04 AM PDT by radar101

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To: spectre; truthkeeper; Brad's Gramma
I didn't think I could be even more sick to my stomach...

...but I am.

41 posted on 06/14/2007 6:52:13 AM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President, 2008!!)
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To: Savage Beast

I’m with you...we don’t have a party anymore.


42 posted on 06/14/2007 6:53:11 AM PDT by Pharmboy ([She turned me into a] Newt! in '08)
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To: radar101

Would 250,000 people on the Mall with “Security First” signs make a difference? It might get their attention since it couldn’t be ignored. Could we do it? We haven’t been able to in the past but this time seems different. I’d go (although I am in Maryland so that’s easy for me to say).


43 posted on 06/14/2007 6:53:41 AM PDT by Pete (My kid sister's first novel: Far Horizons at http://www.amazon.co.uk/)
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To: tiger-one

Thanks, I’ll try that


44 posted on 06/14/2007 6:53:46 AM PDT by YellowRoseofTx
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To: kabar

I was on a conference call yesterday and found out this bill will lessen border security not stregthen it and I find that reprehensible. There is no building a real fence first with the reality fence to accompany so every last inch of the fence can be monitored and the INS can send people immediately to where there is a problem. There is also no check on who leaves the Country even though that was to be put in place in 1996. With this bill law enforcement cannot be notified.

It is a travesty and needs stopped. For those of you on here that got mad when a lot of us thought it was time for Lott to go in total, hope you are happy. We got Frist instead of Lott thanks to a backroom deal orchestrated by Frist fellow Senator from TN at the time who undermined Senator Nickles from OK who should have replaced Lott as the #2 man in the Senate. Don Nickles was someone who had a backbone. Instead we got Frist who was also spineless just like Lott and managed to get him as #2 before leaving the Senate. If Frist told me 2+2 = 4, I would have to use my calculator to verify.

I would bet we would not have lost the Senate with Don Nickles in charge because he was like Jim Inhofe and not afraid to say what was on his mind. Nothing timid about Nickles and he would have taken it to the DemocRATs. We are in this mess because we have had too many Senators try to make nice with the DemocRATs to get something past and in the meantime we lost the Majority because Frist wouldn’t stand up. It started with Clinton, Impeachment, Chinagate, etc. They caved to Clinton every time. Now the spineless Senators are at it again.

This Immigration Bill isn’t just hated by Republicans but by Independents and a lot of Dems so what is the stupid Senate doing even bringing the bill back?

When Clinton was President, Lott went to budget negotiations at the WH without Don Nickles so he could sell out knowing full well Nickles would have come out of a meeting and told the truth. Now Lott is back in power and running this bill for the President — disgusting!

I am with a campaign and one good reason I went there is that there are no Trent Lotts, Bill Frists, Karl Roves, etc. anywhere near the campaign. I learned recently from my sources in the Senate and House that Rove, et al are pushing this bill in the Senate and I want him gone from the political scene and his cronies — he did enough damage in 2006. The way he is going you would think he wants to see Hillary in the WH along with some others. Why? So Jeb can run in 2012? Any major players from any Bush campaign, I want their candidate defeated even if that person was my favorite I would jump ship rather than help put this bunch get near the WH again.

My more than two cents!


45 posted on 06/14/2007 6:54:15 AM PDT by PhiKapMom ( Inhofe for Senate 08 -- Broken Glass Republican -- vote out the RATs in 2008)
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To: Don Corleone
Time for Lott to go.

The entire state of Mississippi should feel the shame caused by Lott....Why is he still there?

I live the shame of the Perry / Dewhurst team here in Texas.... Why is Perry and Dewhurst still running Texas?

Some issues defy logic........

46 posted on 06/14/2007 6:54:52 AM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: AuntB; Cedric; Travis McGee; tioga; pissant; angkor

bttt


47 posted on 06/14/2007 6:57:07 AM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President, 2008!!)
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To: Roccus

all: feel free to cut & paste any elements of my recent email to the White House:

Although I have little hope that anyone in the administration seems to be taking note, I will continue to “vote” my displeasure (a mild word indeed) regarding how the administration is choosing to push an intellectually and politically bankrupt approach to immigration “reform”.

The approach is also morally bankrupt in that it lies about the realities of the illegal immigration situation, lies about the abject failures of the administration and Congress to address it since 9/11, and lies about the true nature of the objections being raised by millions of Americans. We are not nativist yahoos or racist rednecks, nor are we ignorant sheep who would “support the bill if we simply knew the details” (cf. Mr. Snow).

No, we are people who are opposed PRECISELY because we know the details, and we are deeply offended at the mischaracterizations of the bill’s opponents made by the administration.

The administration is still whistling in the dark, seemingly willfully ignorant of the lasting, indeed catastrophic, damage being done to its credibility among the American people.


48 posted on 06/14/2007 6:58:13 AM PDT by Tirian
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To: johnny7
Indeed... this treason has to be stopped here and now.

Once John Kerry, Hanoi Jane and bill clinton were allowed to aid the enemy during the Vietnam years, treason became politically fashionable and very profitable. Forty years of fashionable treason has allowed most of the politicians to be bought. In turn, these politicians have appointed the judiciary, who ignore the constitution and rule in favor of the Corporate Royals who have bought the country. They own the Congress, they own the courts, they own law enforcement and they own the military. How are we supposed to stop them?

49 posted on 06/14/2007 6:59:35 AM PDT by ghostrider
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To: Huck
Okay. Kick McConnell out too! It's high time we cleaned house!
50 posted on 06/14/2007 7:00:04 AM PDT by Savage Beast (A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within.~Durant)
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To: Don Corleone
Time for the WHOLE LOT(t) to go!

It's time for the whole d*mn bunch to go. We need a complete turnover so now one stays long enough to learn the trick.

51 posted on 06/14/2007 7:01:44 AM PDT by YellowRoseofTx
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To: Pete
Perhaps a replication of the Czech "Velvet Revolution" in front of every county courthouse in the nation would be easier to organize. People gathering in the evenings (after work) in front of their courthouses...no slogans, no chants, no voices or signs at all...just the rythmic sound of house keys being shaken. IF the American people are of like mind as we here at FR, I'm sure the crowds would grow each successive evening to a point that could not be ignored by either the media or the politicians.
52 posted on 06/14/2007 7:01:51 AM PDT by Roccus (People seldom do what they believe in. They do what is convenient....then repent.)
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To: Pete
Why not a million!?

If we're serious, it's doable.

Summer....vacations....4th of July.

53 posted on 06/14/2007 7:05:34 AM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President, 2008!!)
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To: radar101

With `shirt-tail relatives’ included, 50 million new “citizens”, all spanish speaking & illiterate, most requiring medical services, food stamps, shelter, education, etc.
If you saw Dobbs last night with La Raza’s mouth-piece, he kept asking her tough but fair questions and each time her eyes would glaze over and she would parrot, “Comprehensive immmigration, bueno,”. In other words, she knows it’s a sell-out, Dobbs knows it, we know, the illegals know, the Congress knows . . .
This will be largest expansion of the welfare state since FDR’s “New Deal”, with the expense put squarely on the backs of the middle class.


54 posted on 06/14/2007 7:06:37 AM PDT by tumblindice
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To: Jim Robinson; kristinn; Angelwood; Doctor Raoul
Seriously wondering about a huge Freep
55 posted on 06/14/2007 7:08:47 AM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President, 2008!!)
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To: radar101

bump


56 posted on 06/14/2007 7:09:43 AM PDT by VOA
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To: Roccus

Like that idea. For those of us who are finding it difficult to contact their rep. (not answering phones, email full to capacity, etc.) call the local news channels!!! Have them contact reps for us. Ask why they are not accessible to the folks??


57 posted on 06/14/2007 7:11:51 AM PDT by newconhere (bzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. zap)
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To: nativist
"If it can be killed in the House then this will be a great campaign tool for the Republicans."

I think it would be very unwise to
a - Assume amnesty would fail in the House after Senate passage,
b - Consider this episode in terms of 'good' or 'bad' for one or the other political party, and
c - Even entertain the notion that congress is capable of presenting a bill so absolutely bad that the current president would fail to sign it.

So long as 'reform' is somewhere in the title, he'll sign just about anything that comes along. Anything, that is, that allows his compadres to stay where they are and allows future administrations to carry on with our traditional lack of enforcement.

When it starts to smell too bad, in twenty years or so, they can do it again - just like they are doing now.

58 posted on 06/14/2007 7:12:00 AM PDT by norton
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To: radar101
good ol Chester...


59 posted on 06/14/2007 7:13:58 AM PDT by hardback
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To: norton
I think it would be very unwise to

Assume amnesty would fail in the House after Senate passage,

We keep hearing in the media lately that House passage is "extremely unlikely" but I don't buy it. With the democrats in charge they can ram through anything they want.

60 posted on 06/14/2007 7:15:04 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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