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Bush Pledges Tougher Border Security
Associated Press via Guardian Unlimited ^ | Thursday June 14, 2007 | By DEB RIECHMANN

Posted on 06/14/2007 9:20:55 AM PDT by michigander

Bush Pledges Tougher Border Security

Thursday June 14, 2007 4:46 PM

AP Photo WHCD107

By DEB RIECHMANN

Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - President Bush, trying to salvage an immigration overhaul legislation, endorsed a plan Thursday that would lock in money for border security as way to win over conservative lawmakers and a skeptical public.

``We're going to show the American people that the promises in this bill will be kept,'' Bush said in a speech to the Associated Builders and Contractors.

Bush got behind a proposal to set aside money collected through fees and penalties for tougher border security and workplace enforcement. Two Republican senators, John Kyl of Arizona and Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, have proposed such an amendment.

Bush said the measure would ``show the American people that we're going to do our jobs of securing this border once and for all.''

The provision would immediately divert $4.4 billion toward border security, with that amount to be paid back once new fees are in place. The point would be to ensure that border security would not be subject to the whims of the yearly budget negotiations.

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; baitandswitch; bordersecurity; bush43; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; mendacity; sellouts; term2; vampirebill; wontgetfooledagain
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Bush got behind a proposal to set aside money collected through fees and penalties for tougher border security and workplace enforcement. Two Republican senators, John Kyl of Arizona and Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, have proposed such an amendment.

They finally admitted it, this is a bill to raise revenue for the treasury.


ARTICLE I
Section 7.
Clause 1.

All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills.

1 posted on 06/14/2007 9:20:58 AM PDT by michigander
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To: michigander
All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills.

That's obviously news to our pols...

2 posted on 06/14/2007 9:22:24 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: michigander
LIAR
3 posted on 06/14/2007 9:23:06 AM PDT by justanotherfreeper
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To: michigander

Bush Pledges Tougher Border Security

yeah.. that’s the ticket. /me heads for the koolaid dispenser


4 posted on 06/14/2007 9:23:08 AM PDT by Ancient Drive
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To: mewzilla

Constitution? We don’t need nor obey no stinkin’ Constitution.


5 posted on 06/14/2007 9:23:10 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Islam is the religion of violins, NOT peas.)
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To: justanotherfreeper

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice.....


6 posted on 06/14/2007 9:23:52 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: Paladin2

Yada Yada


7 posted on 06/14/2007 9:23:53 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: michigander
``We're going to show the American people that the promises in this bill will be kept,'' Bush said

AND that's EXACTLY WHY we DON'T WANT IT JORGE............

8 posted on 06/14/2007 9:24:08 AM PDT by rockabyebaby (My House is Guarded By A Shotgun 3 Days A Week.... Guess Which Days.)
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To: michigander

Uh, huh. “Read My Lips.....” Bull$hit, GW!


9 posted on 06/14/2007 9:25:37 AM PDT by gathersnomoss
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To: michigander

I don’t believe El Presidente.


10 posted on 06/14/2007 9:25:45 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: michigander
Its all for show. The President talks a good game but I don't believe him for a minute. Where's his Administration been on enforcing our immigration laws for the past six years? AWOL! DUH

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

11 posted on 06/14/2007 9:25:48 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: michigander
Bush Pledges Tougher Border Security
I'll believe it when I see it. Not only the President but also SECHLS Chertoff and others in the Administration as well the "wayward" Senators need to re-vise their dimwitted ill-conceived ways ... publicly.
12 posted on 06/14/2007 9:25:58 AM PDT by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: michigander
"They finally admitted it, this is a bill to raise revenue for the treasury."

The "set-aside" is a SPENDING bill. The "illegal immigrant amnesty" bill itself contains revenue-raising provisions--not this one.

13 posted on 06/14/2007 9:27:09 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: michigander

“Bush said the measure would ``show the American people that we’re going to do our jobs of securing this border once and for all.”

Sounds fair, Mr. President.
Start fulfilling your constitutional duties, particularly, to defend us from foreign invasion by actually enforcing our immigration laws, and in a year or so we’ll talk about a “guest worker program”.
But lo siento, no promises . . .


14 posted on 06/14/2007 9:27:09 AM PDT by tumblindice
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To: michigander
Remember the 1986 bill?

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

15 posted on 06/14/2007 9:27:24 AM PDT by NapkinUser (Tom Tancredo for President in 2008! SEE: http://www.teamtancredo.com/)
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To: michigander

I heard Tony Snow on Laura Ingrham’s show this morning. Laura pointed out that we the people don’t trust government anymore so Snow used Reagan’s “Trust but verify” line.

Basically he said we should allow them to do what they want and then we’ll have a chance to verify that they were telling the truth. The only problem is that once it’s done it’s done and if they’re lying (they are) there won’t be anything we can do about it.


16 posted on 06/14/2007 9:28:58 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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To: michigander
President Bush: "Listen up dummies. We got a new plan."

Yah.

17 posted on 06/14/2007 9:29:12 AM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica ("Global warming" and "Climate Change" are the biggest hoaxes ever perpetrated by confidence (wo)men!)
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To: michigander

Prove it GW. Enforce current law and build the fence that is currently authorized by you.......


18 posted on 06/14/2007 9:29:12 AM PDT by Ben Mugged (Always cheat; always win. The only unfair fight is the one you lose.)
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To: michigander
I ain't buying it.

Fence, deport, jail employers and landlords of illegals.

Do all that and do it well and then I may have some confidence in your intentions Mr. President. Not before.

19 posted on 06/14/2007 9:29:12 AM PDT by LibKill ("RUDY GIULIANI" is just "HILLARY CLINTON" misspelled and wearing a dress.)
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To: michigander
Heard this statement earlier, so he will fund the border fence that was approved last session and that he also signed, as long as the senate amnesty bill passes?

Oh, and the senate bill has to pass or the so called fees to pay for it will never be collected. What a crock, how about funding and building the fence and border security before any other bill is even considered?

I am starting to concur with others on this board that The President doesn't really care about Americans anymore. What American in their right mind would want to destroy their own people and take their country and party down in the process?

20 posted on 06/14/2007 9:29:38 AM PDT by Post-Neolithic (Money only makes Communists rich Communists)
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To: michigander

“Bush Pledges Tougher Border Security”

...pledge all you want! Polish your pledge with “Pledge”. Say the pledge of allegiance. Swear on you childrens eyes. Cross your heart. Sign an affidavit. I DON’T, NOR WILL EVER AGAIN BELIEVE YOU!! YOU, MR. PRESIDENT, ARE A LIAR! ONCE A LIAR, ALWAYS A LIAR! And NO I’m not a troll. I’ve volunteered for Reagan/Bush Sr/Kilgore/George Allen. W can pound sand!


21 posted on 06/14/2007 9:30:14 AM PDT by albie
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To: michigander

W. has jumped the shark. It happened, for me, when I realized that my response to this thread was “I don’t believe you, Mr. President”.


22 posted on 06/14/2007 9:30:23 AM PDT by Pete (My kid sister's first novel: Far Horizons at http://www.amazon.co.uk/)
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To: michigander

Sure, Bush has made lots of pledges and pledges like promises are made to be broken. Sorry I no longer trust or believe this administration and find that I must now rethink my past support.


23 posted on 06/14/2007 9:30:37 AM PDT by engrpat
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To: michigander
This is about as good as the time they proposed offering $100 checks to taxpayers to "compensate" for higher gasoline prices.

To hell with Bush and to hell with the incumbents.

24 posted on 06/14/2007 9:31:05 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis ~ No Amnesty for Incumbents * WAHOO WA! ... UVA2009 * Fred Dalton Thompson 2008)
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To: Wonder Warthog
John Kyl of Arizona and Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, have proposed such an amendment.

It appears to be an amendment to the bill itself.
This is the first time I've seen any indication of how they planned to spend the $60 billion+ the bill could raise.

25 posted on 06/14/2007 9:31:12 AM PDT by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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To: michigander
You have posted the biggest "Lie of the Day".
26 posted on 06/14/2007 9:31:38 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Satan is working both sides of the street in World Socialism and World Courts.)
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To: michigander

I voted for him twice.

I don’t believe him on this issue. He has zero credibility, and after listening to Laura Ingraham rip Tony Snow apart this morning, neither does Tony.


27 posted on 06/14/2007 9:31:38 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: michigander

WHERE’S THE FENCE...


28 posted on 06/14/2007 9:31:49 AM PDT by cryptotech (Bush is NOT a Texan)
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To: michigander
we're going to do our jobs of securing this border once and for all.'

"Going to." Always future tense.

WTF have you been doing for the last six years, a$$hole?!?!

We'll talk about amnesty once you "have been" securing the border.

29 posted on 06/14/2007 9:32:03 AM PDT by kevao
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We can spend $30 billion on Africa, but not even 5 billion on America. Are these people's prespectives screwed or WHAT???

SPEND THE $30 BILLION ON THE BORDER MR PRESIDENT!!!

30 posted on 06/14/2007 9:32:19 AM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica ("Global warming" and "Climate Change" are the biggest hoaxes ever perpetrated by confidence (wo)men!)
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To: tumblindice

Bush addresses the Associated Builders and Contractors. Builders and contractors are the biggest abusers of illegal immigrant employment. Why doesn’t Bush address common American citizens for a change?

Promise the money, promise us the moon, but nothing changes until the American public sees real enforcement. No mas smoke and mirrors!


31 posted on 06/14/2007 9:33:01 AM PDT by digerati
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To: justanotherfreeper
This should NOT depend on the meaning of 'border'.


32 posted on 06/14/2007 9:33:24 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: bmwcyle

Well, someone had to do it. :-)


33 posted on 06/14/2007 9:34:09 AM PDT by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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To: michigander

We don’t need no stinking Constitution, Bill “o” Rights, walls, mandatory English language, etc. in MexAmeriCanada.

Get used to it. So much more will be going by way of forced oral entry.

As Clinton said...”put some ice on it”. Now, it is Bush’s turn.


34 posted on 06/14/2007 9:35:03 AM PDT by gathersnomoss
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To: michigander
A few questions to ask your senators..who is going to pay for the new schools and jails that will be needed if they allow the extended families to come in. 6% of any population will need to be incarcerated in state prisons...who is going to pay for new ones, which we already have a problem with overcrowding now. What are they going to do about all the fraudlent documents the current corp of illegals are using?

And have they stripped the provisions that will allow convicted illegal alien felons to remain in the US?

Who is going to pay for the welfare, food stamps and medic-aid these extended family members are going to demand?

We the US Citizens is who.

35 posted on 06/14/2007 9:35:43 AM PDT by GailA (I'm a quilt-a-holic and proud of it. Run Fred Run!)
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To: justanotherfreeper
Of course I'll trust you in the morning; the check's in the mail; and I'll pay you back next pay day!

I no longer believe these lies.

36 posted on 06/14/2007 9:37:29 AM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: michigander

Sure ... I’ll believe it when I see it


37 posted on 06/14/2007 9:38:46 AM PDT by clamper1797 (Fred Thompson / Duncan Hunter in 2008)
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To: michigander

B.S., Mr. President. If you’re so committed to securing the borders, why not do that FIRST without any strings attached???

I am completely disillusioned with this man and this party’s elites.


38 posted on 06/14/2007 9:39:07 AM PDT by USArmySpouse
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To: justanotherfreeper

More mush from the Wimp.


39 posted on 06/14/2007 9:39:29 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: digerati

“Why doesn’t Bush address common American citizens for a change?”
I’m glad you asked:
Because Rasmussen, Pew and every other poll in our solar system consistently shows that the average American would rather chew sand than get on board his amnesty amor train.
He knows he’d be wasting his breath.


40 posted on 06/14/2007 9:40:56 AM PDT by tumblindice (Gimme an `I'! gimme a `M'! gimme a `P'..... hey George, finish this cheer for us willya?)
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To: justanotherfreeper

Fences First. Show me you can stop them, THEN we’ll talk about playing pattycake with the ones here.


41 posted on 06/14/2007 9:41:44 AM PDT by 50sDad (Angels on asteroids are abducting crop circles!)
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To: michigander

WE DON’T BELIEVE YOU. SHOW US FIRST.

DON’T JUST PASS A BILL AND/OR APPROPRIATE MONEY. WE DON’T TRUST YOU TO FOLLOW THROUGH. CUT OFF THE INFLUX OF ILLEGALS FIRST. ENFORCE THE LAWS ON THE BOOKS. MAKE IT MANDATORY AND POSSIBLE FOR EMPLOYERS TO CONFIRM IDENTITY. MOST ILLEGALS WILL DEPORT THEMSELVES IF THEY CAN’T GET FREEBIES AND THE JOBS DRY UP.

THEN TALK TO US ABOUT AMNESTY.


42 posted on 06/14/2007 9:42:23 AM PDT by lady lawyer
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Bush Pledges Tougher Border Security.....

Hey J.O., you’re about 6 years too late!


43 posted on 06/14/2007 9:43:20 AM PDT by WhiteGuy (GOP Congress - 16,000 earmarks costing US $50 billion in 2006 - PAUL2008)
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To: michigander

Bush “endoresed a plan.” Kyl and Graham “have proposed such an amendment.” This is more of the same. Promises, promises, if you’ll do what we want, and then down the road, nada. This PROPOSED amendment is going to be used to lure senators or give them cover to vote to bring the bill to the floor. Once they’ve gotten it to the floor, there is no way they can guarantee it will be in the final bill. Bait and switch at its finest.


44 posted on 06/14/2007 9:43:28 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: michigander
``We're going to show the American people that the promises in this bill will be kept,'' Bush said in a speech to the Associated Builders and Contractors...Bush got behind a proposal to set aside money collected through fees and penalties for tougher border security and workplace enforcement.

But Mr. President, you were saying the immigration bill would be sufficient to secure our borders BEFORE this proposed security funding bill.

So were you lying to us before?

And if that is the case, why should we believe you now?

45 posted on 06/14/2007 9:44:59 AM PDT by dirtboy (A store clerk has done more to fight the WOT than Rudy.)
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To: michigander

Four words, Mr. President.

I. Don’t. Believe. You.


46 posted on 06/14/2007 9:45:14 AM PDT by LexBaird (PR releases are the Chinese dog food of political square meals.)
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To: michigander

I could list the falsehoods and outright lies that have come from the president over the years, but I don’t have all day to type.


47 posted on 06/14/2007 9:45:34 AM PDT by KoRn (Just Say NO ....To Liberal Republicans - FRED THOMPSON FOR PRESIDENT!)
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To: michigander
Bush Budget Scraps 9,790 Border Patrol Agents (From 2005)
Houston Chronicle ^ | February 9, 2005 | Michael Hedges

Posted on 05/24/2007 2:38:30 PM EDT by Shermy

President uses law's escape clause to drop funding for new homeland security force.

From 2005:

Washington -- The law signed by President Bush less than two months ago to add thousands of border patrol agents along the U.S.-Mexico border has crashed into the reality of Bush's austere federal budget proposal, officials said Tuesday.

Officially approved by Bush on Dec. 17 after extensive bickering in Congress, the National Intelligence Reform Act included the requirement to add 10,000 border patrol agents in the five years beginning with 2006. Roughly 80 percent of the agents were to patrol the southern U.S. border from Texas to California, along which thousands of people cross into the United States illegally every year.

But Bush's proposed 2006 budget, revealed Monday, funds only 210 new border agents.


We don't believe you!

49 posted on 06/14/2007 9:47:07 AM PDT by WannabeTurk (01/20/09)
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To: michigander
Somehow I don't believe you, Mr President.

Key Senators to call:

McConnell 202/224-2541
Lott 202/224-6253
Kyl 202/224-4521
Brownback 202/224-6521
Burr 202/224-3154
Chambliss 202/224-3521
Cornyn 202/224-2934
Hutchison 202/224-5922

50 posted on 06/14/2007 9:47:14 AM PDT by skeeter
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