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Spokesman for President Bush Posts on Free Republic About Immigration Bill
Thursday, June 14, 2007 | Kristinn

Posted on 06/14/2007 11:16:52 AM PDT by kristinn

A spokeman for the Bush administration sent an e-mail to Jim Robinson and myself confirming the authenticity of a post on Free Republic this afternoon regarding the immigration bill currently before the Senate as having been posted on behalf of the White House.

The spokesman, Nicholas Thompson, works for the White House Office of Strategic Initiatives. The Politico reported yesterday that Thompson and Kerrie Rushton, associate directors in the Office of Strategic Initiatives who work under Karl Rove, would be engaging the blogosphere on the immigration bill.

Thompson's post is on the thread titled Penalty Mitigation in the Immigration Reform Bill, a vanity posted by philman_36. Thompson posted at comment #53.

Thompson's e-mail to Free Republic included a brief introduction and the text of his posted comment:

Hi,

I just wanted to let you know that I just posted a response to the post "Penalty Mitigation in the Immigration Reform Bill."

The White House appreciates the opportunity to respond on Free Republic.

Response:
I would like to point out that the Secretary is authorized to reduce or mitigate penalities against employers who in good faith are trying to comply with the law. Certainly, we understand that not all employers knowingly hire illegal immigrants; this will remain the case, especially before the bill’s new secure documentation requirements are fully phased in. We do not seek to wrongly penalize honest employers who unknowingly hire illegal immigrants, therefore we reserve the right to reduce or mitigate their penalties if the employer can show good faith compliance in following the law.

For those employers who do knowingly hire illegal immigrants, please know that we intend to penalize these employers strongly, and the Administration has already stepped up these penalties in the last couple of years. For example, a 2005 program, “Operation Rollback,” assessed $15,000,000 in civil fines to employers, an amount greater than the sum of administrative fines collected in the previous eight years and was the largest worksite enforcement penalty in US history. In the first quarter of FY07, criminal and civil forfeitures have totaled $26,700,000 for employers.

As a reminder of what’s in the bill, fines for hiring an illegal worker are $5,000 maximum per illegal worker for the first offense, $10,000 maximum per illegal worker for the second, $25,000 maximum per illegal worker for the third , and $75,000 maximum per illegal worker for the fourth. In addition, the bill increases the maximum criminal penalty for a pattern or practice of unlawful hiring twenty-five-fold, from $3,000 to $75,000, and would impose a prison term of up to six months. This represents a significant increase in fines for employers who knowingly hire illegal immigrants.

Nicholas Thompson
White House Office of Strategic Initiatives


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To: Finalapproach29er
I agree....dry up the jobs and the $$. No reason to stay.

STOP ALL OF THE GOVERNMENT HANDOUTS. WELFARE, FOOD STAMPS, FREE MEDICAL, ETC. SHOULD NOT GO TO ILLEGALS!!!!!

If you make life unlivable, they will leave!!!!!

501 posted on 06/14/2007 1:32:12 PM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (RIP Eric Medlen. You will be missed.)
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To: sageb1

Hey There,,,I’ve never seen that pic,,,TANKS a Bunch...;0)


502 posted on 06/14/2007 1:32:52 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: formerliberal_nowconservative; kristinn
1) BUILD THE FENCE
2) DEPORT ALL ILLEGALS
3) FINE / PROSECUTE EMPLOYERS BREAKING THE LAW
4) INCREASE BORDER PATROL
5) CONTINUE LEGAL IMMIGRATION
6) ENFORCE EXISTING LAWS

503 posted on 06/14/2007 1:33:21 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: skeeter
Ice Fact Sheet
504 posted on 06/14/2007 1:33:24 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: Finalapproach29er

It will definitely take care of (provide a huge disincentive) the many of the ones that don’t work for drug dealers or some other otherwise illicit operation.


505 posted on 06/14/2007 1:33:54 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Tim 1:4; Gal 1:6-10; 1Cor 2:2; Matthew 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34-35; 2Thess 2:11; Jude 1:3)
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To: dragnet2

They have to do it now because they see we will no longer put up with it and we will come up with our own laws on the local level.

They don’t want that. They don’t want enforcement.

My rage level is reaching new heights today.


506 posted on 06/14/2007 1:34:25 PM PDT by JRochelle
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

Well I try not to let that happen too often! lol


507 posted on 06/14/2007 1:35:24 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Tim 1:4; Gal 1:6-10; 1Cor 2:2; Matthew 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34-35; 2Thess 2:11; Jude 1:3)
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To: JeffAtlanta

You apparently did not read the whole thing, ICE wasn’t even formed until March of 2003. In reference to the worker, if that “spurt of work” as you call it, lasted over a year and was steadily increasing, yes, I would give them a raise for their effort.


508 posted on 06/14/2007 1:37:04 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: kristinn; nthompsonwhitehouse
Oh, puhleeze. The entire problem has been employers are presented with documentation they know is fraudulent, but wink wink nudge nudge they take it at face value -- you CANNOT prove they "knowingly" hired an illegal! (and in the employers defense if they challenge it the EEOC kicks them for being racist.) The stupid employment verification system in the bill says you CANNOT fire the illegal until ALL his appeals are exhausted -- kinda like being on death row.

But you aren't fooling anyone, you know all that and you've read Senator Session's take down of your bill. Here's what I want to know: Why are you fools supporting a bill that will make us a permanent minority party?

I come from California. I was a pollwatcher as a kid in the Carter - Ford race, was involved with a lot of assembly and state senate races. Typical volunteer. I watched illegal immigration change California from a swing state to a blue state, both due to stuffing illegals into Dem districts in reapportionment to increase Dem strength and because naturalized hispanics voted Democrat about 2 - 1. (We won't go into the illegal aliens who openly voted and bragged about it on TV, in the mid 90s, after the reporter demonstrated how easy voter fraud was the LA County Registrar tried to prosecute the reporter -- hilarity ensued.)

This margin was due both to overwhelming anti-American propaganda in the Spanish press and because they were poor and wanted taxpayers services. As one told me when I knocked on his door during a precinct walk in 1988 for a Riverside assembly candidate: "No Republicans, Democrats give you more stuff." Lots of middle class flight out of the state further drove our numbers down as folks got fed up and left the state (and, in fairness, suburban white women got very turned off by the GOP for reasons not relevant to this discussion which hurt us further.) And before you bring it up, anybody who tells you 187 is what turned the poor hispanics "against" us is crazy, they never were for us. The court overturning 187 did accelerate the middle class flight that began with the riots in 92.

I left California for Virginia, and I see here in Virginia the same situation developing. The democrats have ALWAYS been the party of the very poor and the very rich, and the GOP has ALWAYS represented the middle class. What, in God's name, makes you think if we import millions of poor people they will vote Republican????? It's a two fold political hit: If you think the Spanish language press or the MSM will give the GOP **ANY** credit for passing this "pander-sty" you are crazy -- AND why would these people vote against their financial interests?

This bill is wrong on policy and wrong politically. Please understand: if this bill passes I personally will never vote or volunteer again. It will be pointless, we will be a tiny minority and we won't matter. I have better things to do with my time then help a party bent on suicide.

509 posted on 06/14/2007 1:37:16 PM PDT by justanotherfreeper
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To: nicmarlo

Yes, enforce existing laws is definitely what I meant.

I forgot. With the White House of late, if you don’t say it explicitly, they seem to not understand the message.

And even if one does say it explicitly ...


510 posted on 06/14/2007 1:37:16 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Tim 1:4; Gal 1:6-10; 1Cor 2:2; Matthew 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34-35; 2Thess 2:11; Jude 1:3)
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To: hershey

bump that!


511 posted on 06/14/2007 1:37:33 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: nthompsonwhitehouse
Others have expressed their opinions better then I.
In a nutshell:

1) Based on history we all believe you are lying.
2) YOU (the Executive and Legislative Branches) have been derelict in your elected duty to uphold the Constitution. You have turned a blind eye to what amounts to an invasion. The net results has been a non-assimilated sub-culture; Falling wages; reduced health care capabilities (we just read yesterday how some lady died in an Emergency Room crisis because the Emergency Room was overloaded and could not help her in time); failing schools; people coming into this country without necessary vaccinations; etc, and etc.
3) Crack down on illegal immigration for a few years -- really show us that you mean it, and are upholding our nation's sovereignty -- then let's talk. And by all means, if you want to increase the legal immigration limits now (processed through the legal, existing channels and with the existing criteria) - by all means do so. But do it legally - no 'cutting in line'.

512 posted on 06/14/2007 1:37:51 PM PDT by El Cid (Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon HIM while HE is near)
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To: JRochelle

Oklahoma just passed the toughest immigration laws of any state. We have two Senators leading the fight against this bill as well. Senator Inhofe has a bill in Judiciary with English Only and enforce the laws we have that is not seeing the light of day even though some grandstanders ask for other bills that would be better. They have one with ENFORCE they refuse to hear authored by Sen Inhofe!


513 posted on 06/14/2007 1:37:57 PM PDT by PhiKapMom ( Inhofe for Senate 08 -- Broken Glass Republican -- vote out the RATs in 2008)
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To: F15Eagle
I forgot. With the White House of late, if you don’t say it explicitly, they seem to not understand the message. And even if one does say it explicitly ...

....they're too good at finding a way to screw Americans first.

514 posted on 06/14/2007 1:38:49 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: MinorityRepublican
It is my belief that not enough FReepers do notice the fact that there's some stepped up enforcement against illegal immigrants in the United States.

LOL... Let's see, there are 20 million illegals in the US and the big news today is the arrest of 165. ICE no doubt practically tripped over 10,000 illegals just driving to the plant for the arrests.

With "stepped up enforcement" like this, we might just as well run up the Mexican flag above the White House today.

515 posted on 06/14/2007 1:38:51 PM PDT by RJL (Mexico must have incriminating photos of Bush from his drinking days.)
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To: ravingnutter
You apparently did not read the whole thing, ICE wasn’t even formed until March of 2003.

So why, then, did it take three years for enforcement to improve?

And why did that coincide with Bush wanting shamnesty passed?

Give it up. You ain't fooling anyone parroting the Administration's line here. Their credibility is shot. Don't shoot down yours as well.

516 posted on 06/14/2007 1:38:57 PM PDT by dirtboy (A store clerk has done more to fight the WOT than Rudy.)
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To: nthompsonwhitehouse

Aside from all the other valid and legal reasons for securing our borders and deporting those here illegally, I can’t understand the political aspect of amnesty either. Legalizing 12-20 million illegals, the VAST majority of which will feast on our social services and earned income tax credits, will complete the Democrats vision of socially engineering an unbeatable majority through the tax code and social programs. A Republican won’t be able to win a race for dog catcher if you add 12-20M - and I bet the real number is closer to 35-40M - voters to the Dem rolls. The US will become France faster Henry Waxman can start another witch hunt.


517 posted on 06/14/2007 1:39:25 PM PDT by IamConservative (I could never be a liar; there's too much to remember.)
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To: ravingnutter
You apparently did not read the whole thing, ICE wasn’t even formed until March of 2003.

Ever heard of the INS? Geesh...how far will you guys go to be an apologist for this guy?

518 posted on 06/14/2007 1:40:12 PM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: PhiKapMom; JRochelle
Oklahoma just passed the toughest immigration laws of any state.

And if shamnesty is passed, guess what? That law is effectively gelded.

I think JRochelle is right - this is an effort by the DC power structure to head off grassroots, local and state efforts to deal with illegal immigration. If you make them all legal, those laws are worthless. Pretty sickening.

519 posted on 06/14/2007 1:40:39 PM PDT by dirtboy (A store clerk has done more to fight the WOT than Rudy.)
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To: justanotherfreeper
Like this?


520 posted on 06/14/2007 1:42:01 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: kristinn

Dear President Bush,

On the issue of immigration, stop talking and start listening.

Read my lips: no amnesty, no z-visas, no nothing. Build that fence that Congress told you to build. End of discussion.
521 posted on 06/14/2007 1:42:02 PM PDT by Old_Mil (Duncan Hunter in 2008! A Veteran, A Patriot, A Reagan Republican... http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: Southack
And finally, it’s good to see the White House finally engaging the blogosphere.

True. And you've got to like the fact the post didn't begin with "Hi, Bigots".

Nonetheless, I've no interest in discussing any "regularization of illegals" until after the federal government has conclusively demonstrated that they can -- and will -- secure the border and enforce employment laws. As well as monitor and control aliens with expired visas.

Give me three years of performance...and we can take a look at the next step.

522 posted on 06/14/2007 1:42:22 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: kristinn
My Position from the start has been:
If we need people we can process in new citizens who have never committed any crime including entering illegally.

And who are drawn from every country in the world
From Iceland To South Africa, From Norway to South Korea
Every corner of the globe, not giving ANY preference to the few nations to our immediate south.

My Position Has Not Changed.

523 posted on 06/14/2007 1:44:19 PM PDT by MrEdd (L. Ron Gore creator of "Fry-n-tology" the global warming religion.)
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To: nicmarlo

No doubt. We cannot accept any “version” of this shamnesty “bill”.


524 posted on 06/14/2007 1:44:47 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Tim 1:4; Gal 1:6-10; 1Cor 2:2; Matthew 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34-35; 2Thess 2:11; Jude 1:3)
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To: kristinn

525 posted on 06/14/2007 1:45:40 PM PDT by GalaxieFiveHundred
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To: F15Eagle
We cannot accept any “version” of this shamnesty “bill”.

Amen!

526 posted on 06/14/2007 1:45:43 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: okie01
True. And you've got to like the fact the post didn't begin with "Hi, Bigots".

** snork **

527 posted on 06/14/2007 1:46:03 PM PDT by dirtboy (A store clerk has done more to fight the WOT than Rudy.)
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To: F15Eagle

I am betting the White House is not going to like this thread....


528 posted on 06/14/2007 1:47:30 PM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (RIP Eric Medlen. You will be missed.)
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To: kristinn

What a bunch of BS.....the government has not protected the borders for years.....they have allowed illegal alien lawbreakers to have the run of the country.....they have provided these lawbreakers with education, healthcare etc. Anyone who thinks the government is now going to enforce the law should come see me as I’m selling a bridge in Brooklyn.


529 posted on 06/14/2007 1:47:42 PM PDT by KenmcG414
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To: ravingnutter; JeffAtlanta; dirtboy
ICE has found these criminal sanctions to be a far greater deterrent to illegal employment schemes than administrative sanctions.

I'd like to know by what measure does ICE judge the effectiveness of their 'new approach', given that the numbers of illegal crossings and their subsequent employment are at unprecedented levels.

IMO the only thing they seek to deter is criticism of their lack of effectiveness.

530 posted on 06/14/2007 1:48:05 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: F15Eagle

How serious can we take them when they let innocent CITIZENS go to jail for doing their job and let gang members and drug smugglers pour over the border.

PLEEEEZZEE !


531 posted on 06/14/2007 1:48:43 PM PDT by TaxxMann (Can't put a dollar sign on citizenship - oh wait, they just did !)
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To: dirtboy

Go read the link I posted on 465.

Ace of Spades couldn’t put it more clearly.


532 posted on 06/14/2007 1:48:43 PM PDT by JRochelle
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To: kristinn; nthompsonwhitehouse

I’m amused that the WH thinks they still have any credibility left on this issue. Who are they trying to fool?

Why did Pres. Bush force the Senate to remove the back taxes requirement for illegals when it was clear that even the Democrats were supporting this requirement?


533 posted on 06/14/2007 1:50:10 PM PDT by indcons (Linda and Hugo Chavez - same goals, different methods)
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To: dixiechick2000; WestCoastGal; LucyT

Dixie, I agree with your post. My husband’s company employs over 100 people. It doesn’t take a whole lot of effort to verify a job applicant’s legal status and background.

If any employer hires illegal immigrants it is because he/she is either lazy or CHOOSES to hire illegals. (probably the latter, because it is less costly)

We have no Hispanics (legal or otherwise) working at our plant. Not because we don’t want them, but here in the Black Hills, there are so few of them. Perhaps the snow and cold has influenced that. If this shameful bill passes, that will, I fear, probably change.

Even though we live in a small pocket of America that is relatively free of the problems associated with illegal immigrants, I am certainly aware of the situation. We travel alot throughout the country and we have most of our family in Texas. Everytime we go there to visit, we feel we are in a different country. Two of my cousins in Texas recently took early retirement because they refused to teach in Spanish. We just returned last night from a 10-day trip to California and Nevada. I felt like we were coming back to America when we landed in South Dakota. Sad, isn’t it?


534 posted on 06/14/2007 1:50:16 PM PDT by Rushmore Rocks
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To: kristinn

The message appears to be obtuse or abstruse or something along those lines. It needs bullet points, no more than seven, and each point should have no more than five phrases. The way it is seems obfuscatory, and deliberately so. This should be simple or it should be sent to the landfill. Perhaps the White House has the germ of a good idea or perhaps not, but we need the patience of a reader of Proust to begin to make sense of this.


535 posted on 06/14/2007 1:51:09 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Treaty)
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To: JeffAtlanta

I agree that the INS was a joke...it was poorly organized... but ICE has dramatically increased enforcement, that is a fact. I am not being an apologist or parroting their lines, I am presenting facts. I will give credit where credit is due, unlike most on here that keep screaming about how there is no enforcement, when it has not only increased substantially, but they are starting to arrest employers and seize their assets rather than fining them, which did no good at all.


536 posted on 06/14/2007 1:53:39 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: nthompsonwhitehouse

Welcome to FR. Please pass this message on to President Bush: Mr. President, I believe that you are a decent, compassionate man. That is partly why I voted for you for President. I also voted for you because I believe that you truly love this country and would work for the benefit of all of it’s citizens. Mr. President, you have let your compassion get in the way of what you have elected to do. It’s fine that you want people of other nations to have the same opportunities that the citizens of the United States have, but your loyalty must be to U.S. citizens. It is not your right or duty to assist non-citizens at the expense of citizens. Once you are out of office you will be free to do as you please to further your agenda. But for the next 18 months you have a duty to act in the best interest of the citizens of this country. Thank you for serving our country and may God Bless you and your family.


537 posted on 06/14/2007 1:54:57 PM PDT by toomanygrasshoppers ("In technical terminology, he's a loon")
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To: Tijeras_Slim
I think they’d be better served READING FreeRepublic than posting to it.

I'm going to bet that your comment will be the absolutely most sensible comment to appear on this thread, so I feel pretty comfortable getting back to my housework.

Kudos!

538 posted on 06/14/2007 1:55:25 PM PDT by grellis (Femininists for Fred!)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

I am betting the White House does not have the stomach to read the entire thread. If they ever read it.

As you say, they won’t like it. But they ought to pay attention.


539 posted on 06/14/2007 1:55:43 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Tim 1:4; Gal 1:6-10; 1Cor 2:2; Matthew 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34-35; 2Thess 2:11; Jude 1:3)
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To: kristinn
Let’ put this immigration legislation on a more personal level.

You’re a businessman, in 1986 a business proposal is put to you, while far from perfect, it will fix a problem for you, so you agree and the deal is signed.

You immediately fulfill every one of your required items in the contract, but in the intervening twenty years your partner never fulfills his required actions in the contract, in fact, he makes only the most minimal and token efforts to appear to care about his contractual obligations.

Now, twenty years later, your partner again comes to you with the same plan, gussied up a bit, but on the whole, the same plan he proposed but failed to live up to back in 1986.

Are you going to gladly sign the new contract, or are you going to be very apprehensive and if not rejecting it outright, demand that he prove he will carry out his contractual obligations?

That is exactly where we are today and why we have been telling Bush for six years: “Secure the borders first” to prove his and Congress’ true intentions before we agree to any further phony “immigration reforms”.

540 posted on 06/14/2007 1:55:48 PM PDT by RJL (Mexico must have incriminating photos of Bush from his drinking days.)
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To: F15Eagle

Spokesman for President Bush Posts on Free Republic About Immigration Bill
Posted by kristinn
On News/Activism 06/14/2007 11:16:52 AM PDT · 539 replies · 10,276+ views


541 posted on 06/14/2007 1:57:08 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: TaxxMann

agreed


542 posted on 06/14/2007 1:57:20 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Tim 1:4; Gal 1:6-10; 1Cor 2:2; Matthew 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34-35; 2Thess 2:11; Jude 1:3)
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To: doug from upland

“Fred Thompson 2008 - Law and Order on the border”

That’s grrrrrrreat!


543 posted on 06/14/2007 1:57:35 PM PDT by cll (Carthage must be destroyed)
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To: kristinn

Hello, Nicholas Thompson
White House Office of Strategic Initiatives

Read this now…

"Mission accomplished," "Bring it on," "Wanted: Dead or alive," and of course, "I earned ... political capital, and now I intend to spend it," he has added "I'll see you at the bill signing,"

The "I'll see you at the bill signing” that Bush proclaims “is not dead " is too stupid for words and is making the speculation of a hidden agenda VERY credible. In fact, I, as many here, would no longer believe any theory to the contrary.

So... if the President does not pull back now and comply with the will of the people AND his own party (because they still have to answer to the voters) then there can be no other logical conclusion than the President does have a hidden agenda, it is not in the interests of American Citizens and the demonstration of total distain for the will of the people in the form of government proclamations that are not "from the consent of the governed" will cause MAJOR upheaval in the very structure of our government.

The total distain by the current administration for the will of the people in the form of government proclamations are also pointing to the exact organizations and individuals that are controlling the President. And control it is because everyone, right down to the dummies at DU can see that no matter how many times the President tries to tell everyone “this is not amnesty” no one believes him because right there in the bill IS AMNESTY!. You even spell out that it is amnesty while trying to say it is not!

..from FOX news TODAY!

The base immigration bill seeks to tighten border security, put an estimated 12 million illegal immigrants on a path to permanent residency

What is the Presidents motivation to lie?

What kind of fools are you people?

Are you inventing a new level of low in backstabbing pond scum?

Do you, or anyone among you really think ANYONE believes you any longer? This administration has not a single shred of credibility left.

You guys are soooooooo voted out.


544 posted on 06/14/2007 1:58:01 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: TomGuy
"Like father, like son."

Yup. The name "Bush" has become another four-letter word. John and John Quincy they ain't.

545 posted on 06/14/2007 1:59:36 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: sageb1

Yeah I was just looking at the stats. Wait until the evening folks get here. This will easily go over 20,000 views.


546 posted on 06/14/2007 1:59:54 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Tim 1:4; Gal 1:6-10; 1Cor 2:2; Matthew 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34-35; 2Thess 2:11; Jude 1:3)
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To: TLI

Like totally. ;)


547 posted on 06/14/2007 1:59:55 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: kristinn; Sam Ketcham; 8mmMauser; Liz; Dutchgirl; Dante3; T'wit; BykrBayb

holy cow.


548 posted on 06/14/2007 1:59:55 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Terri's Legacy List Contact: 8mmmauser & REMEMBER TERRI IN CAMPAIGN 2008)
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To: HiJinx

“You may fire when you are ready Gridley.”

Commodore George Dewey, 1 May 1898, at the Battle of Manila Bay during the Spanish-American War.


549 posted on 06/14/2007 2:00:51 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (US Constitution Article 4 Section 4..shall protect each of them against Invasion...domestic Violence)
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To: kristinn; nthompsonwhitehouse

Thank you for increasing the penalties for employers who willfully hire illegal aliens without proper verification. Please provide evidence of how you are going to enforce those requirements and how long it will take to eliminate hiring of illegal aliens.

Please address whether you will propose increasing the fines and penalties outlined in U. S. Code, Title 8, as applied to those aliens who enter or have entered our Country illegally.


550 posted on 06/14/2007 2:01:27 PM PDT by gpapa
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