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35,000-Year -Old Mammoth Sculpture Found In Germany
Spiegel ^ | 6-20-2007

Posted on 06/20/2007 3:48:04 PM PDT by blam

35,000-Year-Old Mammoth Sculpture Found in Germany

In southwestern Germany, an American archaeologist and his German colleagues have found the oldest mammoth-ivory carving known to modern science. And even at 35,000 years old, it's still intact.

The 35,000-year-old mammoth figurine was revealed on Wednesday. REUTERS

Archaeologists at the University of Tübingen have recovered the first entirely intact woolly mammoth figurine from the Swabian Jura, a 220-meter long plateau in the state of Baden-Württemberg, thought to have been made by the first modern humans some 35,000 years ago. It is believed to be the oldest ivory carving ever found. "You can be sure," Tübingen archaeologist Nicholas J. Conard told SPIEGEL ONLINE, "that there has been art in Swabia for over 35,000 years."

In total, five mammoth-ivory figurines from the Ice Age were newly discovered at the site of the Vogelherd Cave in southwestern Germany, a site known to contain primitive artefacts since it was excavated in 1931 by the Tübingen archaeologist Gustav Reik. Over 7,000 sacks of sediment later, archaeologists were again invigorated by the discoveries.

Among the new finds are well-preserved remains of a lion figurine, fragments of a mammoth figurine and two as-yet-unidentified representations. These, the University of Tübingen Web site explains, "count among the oldest and most impressive examples of figurative artworks from the Ice Age."

Conard said that "the excitement and thrill were immense." He and his colleagues Michael Lingnau and Maria Malina in the Department of Early Prehistory and Quaternary Ecology reported their findings in the journal Archäologische Ausgrabungen in Baden-Württemberg.

(Excerpt) Read more at spiegel.de ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 35000; germany; godsgravesglyphs; mammoth; sculpture
Must have been those big-brained Cro-Magnons or the Neanderthals.

Regardless, the Last Glacial Maximum (18-23,000 years ago) drove them all into the southern refuges.

1 posted on 06/20/2007 3:48:08 PM PDT by blam
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To: SunkenCiv

GGG Ping.


2 posted on 06/20/2007 3:48:44 PM PDT by blam (Secure the border then, Introduce an Illegal Immigrant Deportation Bill)
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To: blam

wow!


3 posted on 06/20/2007 3:55:46 PM PDT by xcamel ("It's Thompson Time!")
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To: blam

4 posted on 06/20/2007 3:58:02 PM PDT by steveo (Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.)
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To: blam

35,000 years in the future they will be digging up all kinds of relics in the country that used to be the USA that depict elephants. They will determine there was a mass extinction in 2008!


5 posted on 06/20/2007 4:00:30 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: steveo

Not so fast, this comes from the land that brought you the “Hitler Diaries”.


6 posted on 06/20/2007 4:00:33 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft
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To: blam

Here's the sculpture being interviewed.

7 posted on 06/20/2007 4:01:35 PM PDT by Andy from Beaverton (I'm so anti-pc, I use a Mac)
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To: blam

Manny !!


8 posted on 06/20/2007 4:02:54 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: blam

It’s a toss-up between a mammoth carving, or something my dog excreted yesterday.


9 posted on 06/20/2007 4:03:12 PM PDT by Recovering Hermit (There's another old saying Senator..."Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining.")
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To: Red_Devil 232
35,000 years in the future they will be digging up all kinds of relics in the country that used to be the USA that depict elephants. They will determine there was a mass extinction in 2008!

That's what I was thinking... only they will dig up a sculpture of a unicorn - from some 12 year old girl's bedroom - and determine that such beasts inhabited the region...

10 posted on 06/20/2007 4:05:22 PM PDT by Bon mots
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To: blam
first modern humans some 35,000 years ago

As you allude to the lack of precision in the articles references, I am wondering about the "first modern humans some 85,000 years ago" who were just recently found to be making beads out of shells. Since the big question is yet, "When did modern behaviors such as speech and representational art first emerge and what was the relationship of the various Ice Age advances and retreats to human behavior?" This does represent an important find, however. Thanks for posting!

11 posted on 06/20/2007 4:13:47 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: Red_Devil 232

LOL!!!!


12 posted on 06/20/2007 4:16:37 PM PDT by PeterFinn (Oderint Dum Metuant)
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To: blam; SunkenCiv

We went years without mammoth stories—now we get one or two a week. Why? How? I finally figured it out.

You two are doing this deliberately to drive me mad, aren’t you?

Well, it won’t work. I’ve got a new tin-foil outfit, form fitting from head to toe. (I sort of look like John Kerry in that famous pic.)


13 posted on 06/20/2007 4:54:29 PM PDT by wildbill
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To: wildbill; blam; SunkenCiv

Dallas museum’s mammoth statue vandalized
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&ct=us/0-0&fp=4679c3a030deef49&ei=eMN5Rp65HZTApQLTzYgo&url=http%3A//www.wfaa.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/localnews/stories/062107dnmetmammoth.2129005c.html&cid=1117446543
Officials at the Museum of Nature and Science in Fair Park are trying to decide how to restore a bronze mammoth

Museum Seeks Help For Mammoth Excavation
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&ct=us/7-0&fp=4679c3a030deef49&ei=eMN5Rp65HZTApQLTzYgo&url=http%3A//www.todaysthv.com/news/news.aspx%3Fstoryid%3D47621&cid=1117417397
A Wyoming museum is seeking volunteers to help excavate the remains of a mammoth

Take part in a mammoth dig
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&ct=us/0-0&fp=46795a3e42ad5639&ei=HMR5RqPtFoWeoAK88o0s&url=http%3A//www.jacksonholestartrib.com/articles/2007/06/18/features/science/4bf517a9d8a5d2fd872572fd0020fcff.txt&cid=1117403373
The Tate Geological Museum at Casper College is inviting volunteers to help the staff dig for the missing second half of a mammoth skeleton

McMinnville boys who found mammoth fossil to appear on ‘Tonight Show’
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&ct=us/5-0&fp=46797af92d1c5fc0&ei=YcR5RuiAJ5HKpQK4uLEu&url=http%3A//www.kgw.com/news-local/stories/kgw_061307_life_mammoth_boys_tonight_show_.43e32d32.html&cid=0

Iowa kayaker unearths piece of distant past
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&ct=us/9-0&fp=46797af92d1c5fc0&ei=YcR5RuiAJ5HKpQK4uLEu&url=http%3A//desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article%3FAID%3D/20070619/NEWS/706190395/-1/ENT05&cid=0

Ancient DNA Traces The Woolly Mammoth’s Disappearance
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&ct=us/0-0&fp=4679ff54a6ddadd5&ei=scR5RpyGAY2goAKJ0Mkr&url=http%3A//www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php%3Fnewsid%3D73605&cid=0


14 posted on 06/20/2007 5:22:51 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: PAR35; wildbill

LOL! You sir are a true sadist; my hat’s off to you! ;)


15 posted on 06/20/2007 5:48:43 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: ApplegateRanch

Who is in charge of the Mammoth ping list, anyway?


16 posted on 06/20/2007 5:50:23 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: blam

That can’t be legit. The earth is only 5000 year old....


17 posted on 06/20/2007 5:53:47 PM PDT by narby
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To: PAR35
Who is in charge of the Mammoth ping list, anyway?

You mean we've broken things down that far?

Are there seperate lists for Columbian & Wooly, too? If so, which list has claim to the island pigmies ?

18 posted on 06/20/2007 5:57:25 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: narby
That can’t be legit. The earth is only 5000 year old....

Just more lies based on unproven scientific theories from us evos.

19 posted on 06/20/2007 5:58:23 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: JimSEA
Right on, JimSEA.

We humans were birthed by the last glacial period.
Big brains, language, cultural interlocks, and other survival traits are the stuff of ice.

In this there can be no debate.

20 posted on 06/20/2007 5:59:35 PM PDT by the final gentleman
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To: blam

Rather the big-brained Cro-Magnons than the Neanderthals. In the German press they said that there is a high probability that it were Cro-Magnons.

The Vogelherd-cave is not too far from the place I grew up. We have lots of caves on the Swabian Alb and interesting artefacts can be found inside. I.e. the remains of cave bears (that were remarkably bigger than Kodiak-bears i.e.).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cave_bear

I own the tusks of a cave bear that we found during earthmoving works. :)


21 posted on 06/20/2007 5:59:50 PM PDT by Atlantic Bridge (In varietate concordia!)
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To: ApplegateRanch

Based on the number of mammoth stories on Google News, it looks like it merits its own ping list.


22 posted on 06/20/2007 6:10:10 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: wildbill

Pick a darm topic at random, and one time out of a hundred it will be about mammoths.


23 posted on 06/20/2007 7:59:58 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated June 20, 2007.)
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To: Atlantic Bridge
Amazing early modern humans could hunt something so big and powerful with out guns. I wonder how many cro-mags these bastards took with them?
24 posted on 06/20/2007 8:07:50 PM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: PAR35

AIEEEIEEEIEEEE! They’re everywhere!


25 posted on 06/20/2007 9:13:39 PM PDT by wildbill
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To: blam; FairOpinion; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 24Karet; 3AngelaD; 49th; ...
Thanks Blam.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list. Thanks.
Please FREEPMAIL me if you want on or off the
"Gods, Graves, Glyphs" PING list or GGG weekly digest
-- Archaeology/Anthropology/Ancient Cultures/Artifacts/Antiquities, etc.
Gods, Graves, Glyphs (alpha order)

26 posted on 06/20/2007 9:24:08 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated June 20, 2007.)
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To: Atlantic Bridge
I had my DNA done by National Geographic/IBM They say I'm R1b and descended from Cro-Magnons.
27 posted on 06/20/2007 9:33:13 PM PDT by blam (Secure the border then, Introduce an Illegal Immigrant Deportation Bill)
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To: narby
5000 year old

...and was created in three days?

28 posted on 06/20/2007 9:46:34 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: Andy from Beaverton
That would be a living breathing coprolite..
29 posted on 06/21/2007 3:33:18 AM PDT by xcamel ("It's Thompson Time!")
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To: blam

Wait a second — That thing fits in your hand! It is not MAMMOTH!!!


30 posted on 06/21/2007 5:12:41 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to protect it.)
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To: Bon mots
"That's what I was thinking... only they will dig up a sculpture of a unicorn - from some 12 year old girl's bedroom - and determine that such beasts inhabited the region..."

Also with information from this documentary:


31 posted on 06/21/2007 8:46:21 AM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (Don't mistake timid driving for defensive driving.)
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