We'd have more power in EU if Germans hadn't 'reduced our population' in WWII, says Polish PM

Evening Standard ^ | June 21, 2007

[RusIvan]

So how the hell in the Asian part of the Soviet Union in 41/42 the whole army was created, which later went to Persia and fought in Italy in 44 ? ==

Dear dear you do not pay attention:). The post said about AFTER ww2 1.6 vln of Poles was deported to Sibiria. AFTER the war not before the war.

[RusIvan]

You better tell us why Russia is in G8...==

Because she is the important country:).

[OESY]

I wish you would read your own posts. I have a question: How can you be against a deranged madman--like Hitler? You sound so much like him. I thought most of you had died off in the last century. Nowadays most people associate such venomous words as yours with Islamic fascist idiots. There's no doubt that if everyone were to adopt your attitude, we would be living in a world of constant and perpetual wars. Are you concealing some long repressed guilt about living through WWII and doing nothing to stop the killing. Obviously, there is only one solution to your problem: self-termination with extreme prejudice. Ironic, eh?

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[Grzegorz 246]

No... Go to your own #168...

[Grzegorz 246]

“Because she is the important country:).”

In vodka consumption...

[fso301]

Isn’t Poland largely Catholic?

[Rummenigge]

LOL

In reality the kaszinskys are flaming friends of everything german.

They never blew the polish strategy in negatiations by making everybody angry with utterly stupid emotional nationalistic remarks.

It was all due to media spin and translation errors.

[Rummenigge]

If Germany and Russia team up - it has always been in our best interests.

Ok maybe not in polish interests - but they always keep on bashing the russians anyhow - and then they complain if WE do business with you guys. (See Gazprom)

:)=)

No seriously how can a hard working and bright folk like the poles vote for these krawallniks ? Was there really no alternative ?

[Rummenigge]

given the “abgeltungssteuer” and the new laws on transport of personal capital in cash across european (!) borders our country is definatly on the way to light blue.

[eleni121]

It’s about time somebody stood up for their nation!

This pell mell rush to a Euro Union stinks...it’s been nothing but mischief since they started the attempt.

I’d like to see more nations standing up to the Euros as well.

Bravo Poland!

[Sonny M]

So you're supporting taking from the descendants of the 'bad guys' and giving to the descendants of the 'good guys.'

Nope, I'm saying Germany shouldn't benefit, long story short, just go back to the drawing board and start over again. I'm NOT saying penalize Germany, just do not reward them, so, go back and start from scratch.

[eleni121]

No doubt about it—between the reich on one hand and the Soviet Union on the other-—Poland is lucky to be around at all!

For that Poles and other nations especially in Eastern Europe need to congratulated for their Christian faith.

[Rummenigge]

It’s easy to have a small show running free.

Try and free an economy like the US has.

[eleni121]

Poland deserves representation in the EU parliament

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No. Poland deserves fair representation in the EU parliament.

Better yet, get rid of the EU parliament!

[Sonny M]

You have no idea what´s the difference betweeen individual and collective guilt, have you? And even worse for your position: The war ended 62 years ago.

I actually do know a couple of people who fought in the war, (granted they are really old), I'm not one of those guys who dismisses things like a bloody war, to people who fought in it.

That said, Germany should not directly benefit, if anyone over in the EU had brains, they would go back to the drawing board, and rework a more palable solution.

And the difference between individual guilt and collective should not be, "guilty" and "off the hook".

[Rummenigge]

but the netherlanders have.... oh I am sorry.

[Sonny M]

Germany also has a large population in part because of forced resettlement of ethnic Germans from other countries such as Poland after the war.

Kind of feels good to be Germany, more people, more power, from a situation created.

Would it not be more prudent, to simply work a better plan out that would be more fair and easy to work?

[eleni121]

Mr Kaczyński certainly does represent the overwhelming majority of the Polish people!

results of the election in 2005

Law and Justice (PiS) - 155
Civic Platform (PO) - 133
Self-defence (Samoobrona) - 56
Democratic Left Alliance (SLD) - 55
League of Polish Families (LPR) -34
Polish Peasant Party (PSL) - 25
The German minority -2

[Rummenigge]

the debate is not about germany and wether it is profiting... well it used to be not about it.

in fact noone in europe had a problem with a weighting of votes related to the number of inhabitants - if it wasn’t for that K. that was only voted for by a small minority of poles (only 40% showed up for the elections).

As K realized that he’s gonna be one very isolated show stopper he pulled the NAZI grenade and vanished in the smokes.

As I said before in the end he will do what he’s supposed to do until a grown up reigns in poland - shut up - and england will take the role of blocking europe.

[eleni121]

The Polish position is far more intellectualy valid than anything the Germans are trying to do in their grab for power.

When has the German position ever been objective? You got to be kidding or delusional!