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The Hillary Dilemma
Real Clear Politics ^ | June 22, 2007 | Larry Sabato

Posted on 06/25/2007 10:54:57 AM PDT by COUNTrecount

Despite the breathless media reports about every jot and tittle of the Democratic contest for President, not all that much has changed in the last year. Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY) has consistently been the frontrunner in national surveys, sometimes by narrow spreads and frequently by sizeable margins. So far she has weathered the entry of Senator Barack Obama (D-IL), a far more charismatic and exciting candidate, and she has held off any sizeable gains by the other two major contenders, former Senator John Edwards (D-NC) and Governor Bill Richardson of New Mexico (D-NM).

The main stumbling block for Clinton has been Iowa, where she continues to trail in the trial heats for the first caucus. But no one else is so well positioned to survive an initial defeat. Arguably, her strongest potential opponents, moderates Senator Evan Bayh (D-IN) and former Governor Mark Warner (D-VA), decided against running, and the other formidable possible candidate, former Vice President Al Gore, is almost certainly not going to run. The other announced Democratic candidates show little sign of breaking out of the pack.

So it's smooth sailing for Hillary, right? No one questions her intelligence, abilities, policy aptitude, and experience (hey, this would be her third term!) And thanks to the deep unpopularity of President Bush and the Iraq War, won't any Democrat be favored in 2008? How can the Democrats blow this election, with all their built-in advantages?

(Excerpt) Read more at realclearpolitics.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2008; clinton; democrats; elections; hillary

1 posted on 06/25/2007 10:54:59 AM PDT by COUNTrecount
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To: COUNTrecount
So it's smooth sailing for Hillary, right? No one questions her intelligence, abilities, policy aptitude, and experience (hey, this would be her third term!)

Hillary is a classic instance of the Peter Principle...minus the peter and the principle(s), of course.

2 posted on 06/25/2007 11:05:13 AM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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To: COUNTrecount
Larry Sabato is a democratic leftist mouthpiece. He may try and sell himself as an independent but he torpedoed that when he jumped into the fray with trumped up charges he leveled against former Senator Allen in VA.
3 posted on 06/25/2007 11:10:32 AM PDT by jrooney (The democrats are the friend of our enemy and the enemy of our friends. Attack them, not GW!)
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To: snarks_when_bored

Do NOT be so hasty!
We know she has no principle(s),.....however we do NOT have sufficient intelligence to make further comment.


4 posted on 06/25/2007 11:12:16 AM PDT by Gideon T. Reader (DEMOCRATS: Not quite American. PALESTINIANS: A proud history of mindless violence since 1964.)
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To: Gideon T. Reader

I was waiting for that, GTR...(grin)...


5 posted on 06/25/2007 11:13:10 AM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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To: snarks_when_bored

“No one questions her intelligence...”

Hey Earth to Larry Sabato. More like about 50% of the population does just that.

Now as for arrogance, lack of civility and power-driven greed, there you would have no questions and no argument.


6 posted on 06/25/2007 11:17:26 AM PDT by rod1 (uake)
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To: jrooney

True. He is a rat tool. That said, this article is probably the first of his comments that won’t be reported in the mainstream media. LOL...


8 posted on 06/25/2007 11:20:48 AM PDT by eureka! (The 'rats have made their choice in the WOT and honest history will not be kind to them...)
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To: COUNTrecount

Blue dog dems will not vote for The Witch.


9 posted on 06/25/2007 11:21:23 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: snarks_when_bored
Reply of the week nominee, right there.

LOL!

10 posted on 06/25/2007 11:24:05 AM PDT by upchuck (IMPORTANT! -> Immigration: What the Deal-Makers don't want you to know -> http://tinyurl.com/2pwp6o)
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To: COUNTrecount
No one questions her intelligence, abilities, policy aptitude, and experience

Larry, don't be a freaking idiot! The only policy initiative Hitlery ever tried to setup, i.e. Health care, was a flaming disaster.

11 posted on 06/25/2007 11:24:16 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: COUNTrecount
No one in the media DARES to question s her intelligence, abilities, policy aptitude, and experience
12 posted on 06/25/2007 11:25:24 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat; but they know what's best for us)
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To: jrooney
Larry Sabato is a democratic leftist mouthpiece.

I certainly hope that the leftists read this. He gives them a LOT of reasons NOT to nominate her. While I do believe she will indeed get the nomination, it would be good if the other candidates' backers saw her as coming by it dishonestly.

14 posted on 06/25/2007 11:36:09 AM PDT by hunter112 (Change will happen when very good men are forced to do very bad things.)
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To: snarks_when_bored

Thank you for the opportunity, Snarky.
(Grining back across the table at you)


15 posted on 06/25/2007 11:37:27 AM PDT by Gideon T. Reader (DEMOCRATS: Not quite American. PALESTINIANS: A proud history of mindless violence since 1964.)
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To: COUNTrecount

Sabato makes some good points and some bad ones, but an ‘expert’ like him should know this is just stupid:

“Moreover, the yearning among the public for the end of President Bush’s reign is palpable, and it may simply be impossible to stop any Democratic ticket in November 2008. Put aside Democratic antipathy toward Bush; most Independents and many Republicans aren’t listening to Bush anymore, and that’s a big problem for him and his party.”

Bush is not on the 2008 ticket. That would almost be like saying Reagan couldn’t beat Carter in 1980 becuase of public “antipathy” toward Nixon. In fact, if Reagan had beat Ford in that close 1976 GOP convention, we may never have had to put up w/ Carter (or the rise in terrorism that resulted).

Focus on this: “and it may simply be impossible to stop any Democratic ticket”

Anyone who follows politics knows dems have only exceeded 50% of the vote once in the past 40+ years (at least). Carter barely got above 50% because of both 1) Vietnam and 2) Watergate. That’s why the dems are so desperate to get something out of all these AG, Cheney, Rove fishing expeditions.

They know they can’t win an honest election. For Sabato to imply they are now a juggernaut implies he’s a moron.


16 posted on 06/25/2007 11:39:16 AM PDT by Gothmog (Valerie Plame is guilty of treason)
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To: snarks_when_bored

” Hillary is a classic instance of the Peter Principle...minus the peter and the principle(s), of course.”

LINE OF THE DAY..............


17 posted on 06/25/2007 11:41:49 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: COUNTrecount

Edwards to Sue Iowa Democratic Party, Clinton Campaign

Presidential candidate and former senator John Edwards (D-N.C.) says he will file a lawsuit against the Cedar County Democrats and the Clinton campaign for what he says “may have been irreparable damage to his presidential prospects.”

The $200 million suit stems from an incident that occurred during Edwards’ campaign swing through Iowa this month. Asked to point to the picture of her favorite presidential candidate, Emma Claire, Edwards’ nine-year old daughter, pointed to a picture of Senator Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.). The whole thing was caught on videotape.

“This is the dirtiest of campaign tricks,” Edwards complained. “It’s the typical Clinton ‘sleaze machine’ at work. It should be clear to the American voters that the Clintons will stop at nothing in their lust for power.”

Edwards contends that the incident was a “set up.” “Somehow, Clinton’s operatives induced my daughter to pick Hillary over her own father,” Edwards said. “I don’t know whether it was drugs, hypnosis, or some sort of telepathic mind-control technique, but it’s just plain wrong to manipulate people into making bad choices.”

Nora Goode, spokesperson for the Clinton campaign in Iowa, belittled Edwards’ complaint as “more whining from a champion of the art of whining. I mean, here’s a guy whose career as a tort lawyer was founded on manipulating juries with elaborate stunts and mind-games. Apparently, he can dish it out, but he can’t take it. Is this the kind of sniveling weasel we want as the nation’s next president?”

read more...

http://www.azconservative.org/Semmens1.htm


18 posted on 06/25/2007 11:54:07 AM PDT by John Semmens
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To: Gothmog

If Reagan had won the election of 1976, he would have had to leave office on Jan. 20, 1985. True, the Middle East might not be quite so messed up if Carter hadn’t put the mullahs in power in Iran, but the Soviet Union might still be in existence if Reagan hadn’t been President during the years Gorbachev was trying to reform the USSR.


19 posted on 06/25/2007 12:25:00 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: HillaryChavez
Welcome to FreeRepublic and you're right. "...drunk with Hillary Mania..." - I like that!

20 posted on 06/25/2007 12:36:22 PM PDT by scan58
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To: HillaryChavez

Hillary and her liberal sheep fans think she “deserves” to be president because she is “Bill’s wife”, and its time for a woman to be president. Liberals fail to see her faults because they are drunk with Hillary Mania , she has never had a leadership job such as Mayor of a large city ,Governor of a state. Hillary has other weak points as well such as ; flip-flopping on the issues, her plans for huge social welfare programs, appeasing our enemies, raising taxes, and increasing the size and power of the Federal Govt.
Hillary Stalin Chavez

plus she’s just pure evil


21 posted on 06/25/2007 12:41:10 PM PDT by Sig Sauer P220
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To: COUNTrecount

I will always wonder if the Clinton Crime Syndicate “talked” Baye and Warner out of running.

Why no one visiblly on her right?


22 posted on 06/25/2007 1:01:54 PM PDT by CPT Clay (Drill ANWR, Personal Accounts NOW , Vote Hunter in the Primary)
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To: VfB Stuttgart

It seems you have a memory loss regarding Iraq. It was Saddam who was caught having his diplomats actively assisting terrorist in three other countries. It was saddam who had terrorist training camps in country. It was Saddam who kill hundreds of thousands of his own citizens during his reign. It was Saddam who was determined to acquire Nuclear and other WMD once he got the UN to remove their restrictions. Why were UN thinking about that? because he bribed many of those officials.
Why haven’t we suffered another attack since 9/11? Simple! we took the battle to them rather then wait for more attackes here like Clinton did.


23 posted on 06/25/2007 1:38:27 PM PDT by spookie (SPOOKIE)
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