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CNN Poll: Do you think gays and lesbians could change their sexual orientation if they wanted to?
CNN ^ | 6-27-07 | CNN

Posted on 06/27/2007 9:38:10 AM PDT by Arcy

Current vote count:
Yes: 31% No: 69%

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KEYWORDS: exgays; gay; homosexualagenda; lesbian; recovery; transgender
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To: Arcy
How well is your gaydar working?

Lifetime Cable Channel Dating Game.

51 posted on 06/27/2007 10:26:28 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Sans-Culotte; dangus
It’s a dumb poll.

Insanely stupid wording.

Two words: CNN

A better question would be: "Would they change if they could?"

52 posted on 06/27/2007 10:27:21 AM PDT by Designer (I think I could DO this job!)
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To: Arcy

They should qualify the question: “If professional mental health treatment was available where needed”.


53 posted on 06/27/2007 10:27:30 AM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: MrEdd

“It’s pretty much like the question:
Do you think alcoholics can stop drinking if they want to?”

I agree 100% with this and I believe the answer is YES!


54 posted on 06/27/2007 10:27:47 AM PDT by bigcat32 (Smoke'em if you got'em.)
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To: elizabetty
"Could CNN report unbiased news, if they really wanted to?"

LOL! Good one!

55 posted on 06/27/2007 10:28:54 AM PDT by Designer (I think I could DO this job!)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
If “gay” was genetic, it would mean people were attracted to something about the chromosome set of a gender, and could detect that regardless of what a person looked like or wore.

That's interesting. I've never heard that before.

I always have thought of something being "genetic" as meaning that a person's genetic makeup shapes the qualities of the person. For example, perhaps concert pianists have some genetic difference from the rest of us that makes them particularly well suited to that task.

In this case, you are using "genetic" as meaning someone has an attraction for the genes or chromosomes of a person. Very interesting.
56 posted on 06/27/2007 10:33:07 AM PDT by HaveHadEnough
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I guess “knowingly” should have been a part of that sentence.


57 posted on 06/27/2007 10:35:08 AM PDT by Hi Heels (Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult.)
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To: PeterPrinciple

“Homosexuality is a behavior. It is a learned behavior. It is an addictive behavior.”

Are you saying that homosexuals are actually heterosexual, except for when they are having sex?

I’m not so sure about the “addictive” part. Maybe it’s addictive in the way sex is addictive, but I doubt most lesbians fall into that “lesbian sex is just SO addictive” category. If so, why do they seem to end up chronically monogamously coupled and experiencing what I have heard called “lesbian bed death”?

Sounds more like gay men have lots of sex because men are very driven to have sex, while the women... not so much.

Mirrors complaints I hear in many heterosexual couples.

Guys: She never wants to have sex since we married!!
Women: He just wants sex all the time!!


58 posted on 06/27/2007 10:40:58 AM PDT by JerriBlank
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To: Arcy

I have a better question. Would homosexuals still be gay if they were not sexually molested as children?


59 posted on 06/27/2007 10:44:02 AM PDT by Durus ("Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." JFK)
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To: marvlus

“Probably about as much as heterosexuals could change their orientation, if they wanted to.”

I surmise by your answer that you feel homosexuality is a natural state of sexual being for gays and lesbians. If that is indeed the case, can you explain to me why gays and lesbians want to adopt children? If their natural state is to be sexually oriented in a way that makes it impossible to procreate, why would they have a natural desire to “procreate?”

(JSYK, if you don’t see a response from me until tomorrow, it is not because of posting and running. I will be away from a computer for the rest of the day soon.)


60 posted on 06/27/2007 10:44:11 AM PDT by CSM ("The rioting arsonists are the same folks who scream about global warming." LibFreeOrDie 5/7/07)
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To: Sherman Logan
Note that the question implies that you must answer that either ALL can change or NONE can change.

Polls inherently simplify often complex issues, but this one does so in a Big Way.

I agree with your answer.

My clearly novice opinion is that homosexuality seems to be something like alcoholism or other addictions. As such, switching away from it is a very difficult and lengthy process, and likely not successful for everyone who attempts it.

61 posted on 06/27/2007 10:45:31 AM PDT by TChris (The Republican Party is merely the Democrat Party's "away" jersey - Vox Day)
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To: cjohnson1

I agree 100%!

Choose any behavior in the world, anything man can dream up with his own perversion of free will. Can he change ANY of them? To claim he can’t is to refute that man is responsible for his own behavior, he has no free will.


62 posted on 06/27/2007 10:49:14 AM PDT by gidget7 ( Vote for the Arsenal of Democracy, because America RUNS on Duncan!)
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To: Arcy
No, it is impossible for people to restrain their sexual impulses.

< considering implications of this statement>

No, wait...

63 posted on 06/27/2007 10:50:51 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: JerriBlank
Are you saying that homosexuals are actually heterosexual, except for when they are having sex?


You’ve bought into the lie that homosexuality is the equiv of a race, gender. It is a behavior, a deviant behavior. They may define them selves by this behavior but it is a behavior.
64 posted on 06/27/2007 10:53:54 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: Arcy

OH SNAP


65 posted on 06/27/2007 10:55:40 AM PDT by badpacifist (I'm touching the portal of infinite knowledge right now!)
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To: Humvee

“Why would it be any of my business?”

Because, the homosexual activists do not care if it is any of your business or not, they are MAKING it your business. They insist you know about things that should not be discussed in mixed company much less with children! AND they insist upon special rights that take your rights, by enacting them.


66 posted on 06/27/2007 10:56:05 AM PDT by gidget7 ( Vote for the Arsenal of Democracy, because America RUNS on Duncan!)
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To: Arcy

Anne Heche did it.


67 posted on 06/27/2007 10:58:12 AM PDT by TBP
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To: PeterPrinciple
You’ve bought into the lie that homosexuality is the equiv of a race, gender. It is a behavior, a deviant behavior. They may define them selves by this behavior but it is a behavior.

So, people are neither homosexual nor heterosexual except when they are having sex?
68 posted on 06/27/2007 10:58:17 AM PDT by HaveHadEnough
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To: MrEdd
Do you think alcoholics can stop drinking if they want to?

Well, yes. Many have done so. What do you think AA and other such programs are about?

69 posted on 06/27/2007 10:59:34 AM PDT by TBP
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To: PeterPrinciple

“You’ve bought into the lie that homosexuality is the equiv of a race, gender. It is a behavior, a deviant behavior. They may define them selves by this behavior but it is a behavior.”

Well, I have to disagree with that. I think they’re gay whether or not they engage in any behavior. It is the desire to have sex with someone of the same gender that makes them “gay”.

I very much doubt it is a choice.


70 posted on 06/27/2007 11:01:34 AM PDT by JerriBlank
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To: Sherman Logan
Some can, some probably can’t.

I think that is likely correct. While I think the evidence shows that there is a hereditary factor (i.e., not all people could be homosexual if they wanted to), I think it also shows that there is some external, environmental trigger that sets off the predisposition (i.e., not all who are geentically programmed to be homosexual are homosexual.)

71 posted on 06/27/2007 11:02:02 AM PDT by TBP
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To: elizabetty
Could CNN report unbiased news, if they really wanted to?

Well, they hve been lying and distorting so long that I'm not sure the capacity is there anymore, or if it is, it's buried so deeply that they would neer be able to find it.

72 posted on 06/27/2007 11:04:47 AM PDT by TBP
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To: Arcy
There is no genetic test or procedure (experimental or otherwise) that can determine one's sexual orientation. When people claim to be gay and we believe them, what we're really doing is taking them at their word. We believe their claim, we believe their testimony and we believe their declaration that they are gay.

But there are some people who are suddenly skeptical when one claims to be ex-gay. They don't believe the ex-gay claim, they don't believe the ex-gay testimony nor their declaration that they are ex-gay.

When somebody uses a certain standard to measure the credibility of what one group says, but then refuses to use the same standard to measure the credibility of what another group says--thereby ignoring the claims of the second group (ex-gays)--he should ask himself why he believes one group and not the other... This is a double standard.

73 posted on 06/27/2007 11:13:47 AM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: Arcy

How about this for a follow up? If you responded Yes to the question, would you let your duaghter a men who had changed his orientation?


74 posted on 06/27/2007 11:25:10 AM PDT by NC28203
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To: JerriBlank
I very much doubt it is a choice.

Do people chose to be drug addicts? Do people chose to murder? Do people chose to molest a child? Do people chose to lie?

It is a behavior but they won’t admit it was their choices that led them to where they are. Our society currently says someone else is at fault. Whether an alcoholic or excon, once they stop blaming someone else, they are on their way to recovery, never easy though.

Unfortunately it is also true that many if not all homos have been molested. It is someone elses evil choice that has influenced the situation they are it. There may be genetic, environmental influences in a few cases but it is still a behavior.

Never forget that this is a behavior, nothing else. Do not be led astray by their lies.

If you think they don’t have a choice and they can’t help it, Then you have to be tolerant of a lot of other behaviors such as child molestation and we are already moving toward accepting that behavior. Why is smoking evil but homosexuality good? You have been convinced of this by the media.

75 posted on 06/27/2007 11:32:37 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: PeterPrinciple

“Never forget that this is a behavior, nothing else. Do not be led astray by their lies.”

But it’s NOT. Any more than it is just behavior that makes a person heterosexual... that is not true.

Jim McGreevy was gay during his entire marriage, that includes the times he was in the act of making children with his wife.

Sorry, I don’t think we are going to agree here. I don’t believe it is a choice, and I believe that there is genetic pre-disposition.

Of course, neither side can be proven. Just basing this on my talks with others.


76 posted on 06/27/2007 11:54:19 AM PDT by JerriBlank
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To: HaveHadEnough

Shhhhhhh! LOL!


77 posted on 06/27/2007 11:56:50 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: NC28203

Sorry, it should have read.

How about this for a follow up? If you responded Yes to the question, would you let your daughter date a man who had changed his orientation?


78 posted on 06/27/2007 12:04:05 PM PDT by NC28203
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To: PeterPrinciple
You know the expression, "I've lusted in my heart."

Is lusting in one's heart a behavior? Does the object of that lust, male or female, help define whether a person is heterosexual or homosexual?
79 posted on 06/27/2007 12:05:27 PM PDT by HaveHadEnough
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To: Arcy

A lesbian hairdresser with bell-bottomed pants, wouldn’t that look silly with a butch haircut?


81 posted on 06/27/2007 12:21:39 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: elitemicro

Is lusting in one’s heart a behavior? Does the object of that lust, male or female, help define whether a person is heterosexual or homosexual?


Depends on what is is.


82 posted on 06/27/2007 12:22:46 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: PeterPrinciple
Is lusting in one’s heart a behavior?

On a serious note that is a good question. If one is are a fan of the Bible, lusting would be a behavior with consequences.
83 posted on 06/27/2007 12:30:32 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: CSM
can you explain to me why gays and lesbians want to adopt children?

I'm afraid I can't. I am not an expert in homosexuality. All I can say is that I don't know why a heterosexual would want to do homosexual acts. I'm speaking primarily for myself and probably most heterosexuals.

84 posted on 06/27/2007 12:32:49 PM PDT by marvlus
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To: Sans-Culotte

The thing is, a lot of “them” don’t want to be gay. I know several Christians, for example, who struggle to overcome their same-sex attraction orientation.


85 posted on 06/27/2007 12:35:51 PM PDT by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: Arcy

I guess their editor is dead. “wanted to”?


86 posted on 06/27/2007 12:36:57 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: TBP

Bingo, that was during a time called the Lesbian Chic Era. I knew two girls in a rock band who, due to their boyfriend’s “business” were doing a serious amount of Blow. Well, that affects men one way (good-bye Schmeckie) and girls differently (still want it, Schmeckie unavailable)So they turn to each other. They move in together and after a while decide to drop the Coke. Guess what? Clearer heads prevailed. They both became Born Again, went their separate ways, married men and had families. I run into the singer’s father now and then. She’s doing great.


87 posted on 06/27/2007 12:39:42 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: dcnd9

Freeped for all the good it will do.


89 posted on 06/27/2007 12:57:44 PM PDT by beckysueb (Pray for our troops , America, and President Bush)
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To: Blue Highway

Its on the right quite a ways down the page.


90 posted on 06/27/2007 12:58:53 PM PDT by beckysueb (Pray for our troops , America, and President Bush)
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To: Arcy
Funny, "straights" can become "gay" but not vice-versa.

Ironic, that.

This poll may as well say: "Do you believe an alcoholic can recover and stay off the sauce for the rest of his life?"

Those who say "no" do not believe in the Grace of God to do the impossible, IMHO.
91 posted on 06/27/2007 1:03:24 PM PDT by Antoninus (P!ss off an environmentalist wacko . . . have more kids.)
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To: Arcy
May as well ask: "Can a transsexual change his gender if he really wants to?"

You can mutilate the human body, chop off your wee-wee, take all the estrogen you want, but the chromosomes are still going to say "XY". At the end of the day, homosexuality is a mental disorder and always has been.
92 posted on 06/27/2007 1:05:48 PM PDT by Antoninus (P!ss off an environmentalist wacko . . . have more kids.)
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To: Antoninus
Funny, "straights" can become "gay" but not vice-versa.

Indeed. There is a double standard here that many don't realize.

93 posted on 06/27/2007 1:05:54 PM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: Arcy
Confession from a former homosexual
94 posted on 06/27/2007 1:08:54 PM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: Arcy
People Can Change
95 posted on 06/27/2007 1:09:46 PM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: Arcy
The Great Escape (Mike Haley)
96 posted on 06/27/2007 1:11:17 PM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
So there is no reason a gay man couldn’t fall in love with a woman who he was not “physically attracted to”, but still have sex with her and be physically satisfied,

I once asked a gay coworker if the thought of 'being with a woman' was as ooky to him as the thought of 'being with a guy' is for me. He said he thought probably so.

It's not simply a matter of having sex with someone you're not attracted to. Could I have an orgasm with a guy? Yeah, maybe (if there were no women left on the planet). It's a disgusting thought.

97 posted on 06/27/2007 1:16:24 PM PDT by BearCub
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To: scripter

Wow! Thats powerful!


98 posted on 06/27/2007 1:21:03 PM PDT by beckysueb (Pray for our troops , America, and President Bush)
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To: BearCub

It’s disgusting to me to, but for some reason really tough guys who end up in jail often find the idea attractive enough to risk punishment for it.


99 posted on 06/27/2007 1:33:21 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Arcy

Yes, but it’s not easy. Course, neither is dieting if you are ‘addicted’ to food, nor is ceasing to drink if you are an alcoholic. (Yet we don’t respect those who don’t try to do either of those things.)


100 posted on 06/27/2007 1:45:18 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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