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RoboCop fantasy gets real (track-wheel robots armed with Tasers)
Houston Chronicle ^ | June 28, 2007 | MARK JEWELL, AP

Posted on 06/29/2007 8:05:47 AM PDT by RDTF

RoboCops and robot soldiers got a little closer to becoming reality Thursday as a maker of floor-cleaning and reconnaissance automatons teamed up with a stun-gun manufacturer to arm the track-wheeled bots for police and the Pentagon.

By adding Tasers to robots it already makes for the military, iRobot Corp. said it hopes to give soldiers and law enforcement a defensive, nonlethal tool.

But some observers fear such developments could ultimately lead to robots capable of deciding on their own when to shoot and kill.

"It's one more step in that direction," said John Pike, director of GlobalSecurity.org, an Alexandria, Va.-based military research organization.

"It is not the first step in that direction, but I think at some point toward the end of the next decade, you're going to start seeing RoboCops or Terminator," Pike said, referring to the robot-themed sci-fi films. "We may see autonomous robots capable of inflicting lethal force."

Jim Rymarcsuk, vice president for business development at Burlington, Mass.-based iRobot, said notions of armed robots acting on their own are far beyond what the company envisions for the partnership announced Thursday with Scottsdale, Ariz.-based Taser International.

"Right now, we have no plans to take any robot with a lethal-weapon approach to the market," Rymarcsuk said. "For this system, and all systems we have looked at, there is a human in the loop making the decisions. This in no way is giving the robot the capability to use force on its own."

Financial terms of the partnership were not disclosed. The companies said they have a model that will be demonstrated at a conference Taser is holding in Chicago on July 9-10. The model pairs iRobot's existing PackBot Explorer with the Taser X26, in what iRobot calls "the first robot of its kind with an on-board, integrated Taser payload."

(Excerpt) Read more at chron.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Technical; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: leo; miltech

1 posted on 06/29/2007 8:05:51 AM PDT by RDTF
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To: RDTF

IED Scouts?


2 posted on 06/29/2007 8:07:24 AM PDT by sono ("Let's start the Fairness Doctrine with NPR." Dennis Miller)
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To: RDTF

Somebody should warn Sarah Conner.....

This can’t end well ....


3 posted on 06/29/2007 8:07:29 AM PDT by SubGeniusX ($29.95 Guarantees Your Salvation!!! Or TRIPLE Your Money Back!!!)
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To: RDTF
lead to robots capable of deciding on their own when to shoot and kill.

Keep em off of Skynet and it will be cool...8>)

4 posted on 06/29/2007 8:09:46 AM PDT by Horatio Gates (I remember when a pop-up blocker meant a cold shower.)
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To: SubGeniusX
"Somebody should warn Sarah Conner.....

This can’t end well ...."

http://www.sarahconnor.com/

5 posted on 06/29/2007 8:11:30 AM PDT by gura
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To: RDTF

I have often wondered why a program hadn’t been developed that would detect human form/heat signatures, motion, et al, and them have .50 cals tied to it.

(Saw this in “Aliens” and it ocurred to me that it would be easy to do with existing tech.)

I would think that would be an excellent permiter defense, even maybe a “leave behind” defense that frees soldiers for forward motion that blows itself up after a period of time.

I just don’t think it would be that expensive.


6 posted on 06/29/2007 8:11:35 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Fred Thompson)
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To: RDTF
But some observers fear such developments could ultimately lead to robots capable of deciding on their own when to shoot and kill.
Deciding on their own? Interesting choice of words. Do landmines, electrical fences, or big deep holes decide on their own whom to injure? Ridiculous.
7 posted on 06/29/2007 8:12:34 AM PDT by Asclepius
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To: MeanWestTexan

Or for home defense! Don’t forget that! :-D


8 posted on 06/29/2007 8:13:02 AM PDT by bolobaby
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To: RDTF

Greeeeeeaaat . . .

Wonderfulllllllllll . . .

“Stop or I will shoot. Shoot. Shoot. Shoot. Shoot. Reboot. Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. Service required, service required, service required, error 318. Error 318.”


9 posted on 06/29/2007 8:15:08 AM PDT by Greg F (<><)
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To: RDTF
These ain't nuthin' compared to Ed-209 !!


10 posted on 06/29/2007 8:16:14 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: bolobaby

Bit indescriminating.

That said, we have an alarm system at work that goes off if someone without a proper RFID tag goes in (basically a IFOF — ID Friend Or Foe) or a visitor (who have a little bracelet) goes beyond where they are supposed to go.

I would think much the same could be worked into this type of security system, even with a sub-cuteous RFID tag.


11 posted on 06/29/2007 8:19:16 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Fred Thompson)
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To: theDentist

“Please put down your weapon. you have 20 seconds to comply”


12 posted on 06/29/2007 8:19:42 AM PDT by digger48
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To: Greg F
"Drop you weapon or I will be forced to shoot you."*
*drops weapon*
*Ed-209 steps forward and growls*
"You have 10 seconds to drop the gun before I open fire."
*subject's eyes widen in confusion...*

-RoboCop

13 posted on 06/29/2007 8:21:00 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: RDTF
...such developments could ultimately lead to robots capable of deciding on their own when to shoot and kill...

"Drop your weapons, you have twenty seconds to comply!"

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"You now have ten seconds!"

14 posted on 06/29/2007 8:22:14 AM PDT by Fudd
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To: RDTF
A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.

A robot must obey orders given to it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.

A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.

15 posted on 06/29/2007 8:24:40 AM PDT by Plain Old American (Remember who said what; Remind those who don't Remember; Vote and take a friend to the polls)
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To: RDTF

I’m surprised they haven’t come up with riot control robots that could divide a mob while spraying a cloud of tear gas and having a high voltage electrified body so that anyone who touches it gets a painful shock. It could also spray a mist of identifying chemical on the skin and clothing of rioters, or a spray of “super slick” on the street, which makes it very hard to walk on without slipping and falling.

Remote controlled, it would have all sorts of options.


16 posted on 06/29/2007 8:29:37 AM PDT by Popocatapetl
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To: RDTF

17 posted on 06/29/2007 8:30:38 AM PDT by cogitator
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To: RDTF
But some observers fear such developments could ultimately lead to robots capable of deciding on their own when to shoot and kill.

PUHLEEZ! We're a long way from computer programs that could do anything like that. And machines can never, and will never, be able to truly think. Thinking requires apprehension, which is an essentially spiritual activity.

18 posted on 06/29/2007 8:34:26 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: RDTF

Sounds like a job for Optimus Prime!


19 posted on 06/29/2007 8:40:39 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (Amnesty GOP members are betting on a Clinton nomination, to get their support back!)
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To: MeanWestTexan

Um... those are sentry guns in Aliens - and the Koreans and Israelis have already started to make them.


20 posted on 06/29/2007 8:48:21 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: RDTF

Anyone thats attended the annual ASIS International Convention has seen these robots since at least 1992 wandering around the exhibit halls.

Armed with more than tasers, btw.


21 posted on 06/29/2007 8:51:16 AM PDT by Badeye ("In 2 weeks, I join the list of UNEMPLOYED". ...Goldi-Lox (karma comes around))
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To: RDTF

You know, I have one simple request. And that is to have sharks with frickin’ laser beams attached to their heads!


22 posted on 06/29/2007 9:14:03 AM PDT by 6SJ7
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To: Spktyr

I figured someone HAD to have started making them; good to know.


23 posted on 06/29/2007 9:17:24 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Fred Thompson)
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To: Spktyr

I figured someone HAD to have started making them; good to know.

It looks like they are going into the field this year:

http://www.technovelgy.com/ct/Science-Fiction-News.asp?NewsNum=762


24 posted on 06/29/2007 9:19:54 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Fred Thompson)
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To: RDTF

25 posted on 06/29/2007 9:20:03 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: MeanWestTexan

http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/2007/06/israel-deploying-seeshoot-rws-along-gaza/index.php

Check out the Samsung SGR-A1 (Sentry Guard Robot) and the Israeli Samson Jr.


26 posted on 06/29/2007 9:24:33 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: MeanWestTexan
Samsung SGR-A1 - unit cost $200K. Cheap compared to a soldier, IMHO.
27 posted on 06/29/2007 9:26:24 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: theDentist

Wow. Not even close. :-P


28 posted on 06/29/2007 9:47:56 AM PDT by bolobaby
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To: bolobaby

what’s “not even close”? Quotes or the Ed-209 look?


29 posted on 06/29/2007 10:27:27 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: Plain Old American

You forgot this one:

Zeroth law: A robot may not injure humanity, or, through inaction, allow humanity to come to harm.


30 posted on 06/29/2007 10:31:31 AM PDT by CougarGA7 (You Don't Reward Someone for Breaking the Law!!! No Amnesty!)
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To: theDentist

Quotes are way off. :-)


31 posted on 06/29/2007 10:45:57 AM PDT by bolobaby
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To: bolobaby

well, i’m going by memory and haven’t seen it in a while. You’re welcome to post exact quotes at your leisure.


32 posted on 06/29/2007 10:49:27 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: theDentist

I think it goes like:

ED-209: Please put down your weapon, you have 20 seconds to comply.

Dick Jones: You’d better do as he says, Mr. Kinney.

ED-209: (whhhrrrr - malfunction noise, sounds like a growl) You have 15 second to comply.

ED-209: You have ten seconds to comply.

(panic breaks out)

ED-209: You have five seconds to comply. Four. Three. Two. One. I am now authorized to use physical force.

Bam - bam - bam. Random banter about a paramedic.

Old Man: Dick, I’m *very* disappointed.


33 posted on 06/29/2007 12:09:52 PM PDT by bolobaby
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To: bolobaby

Yes, that does sound more accurate...


34 posted on 06/29/2007 12:13:50 PM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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