Posted on 06/30/2007 4:02:33 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084
The defeat of the amnesty bill is indeed a great day for America. The noble concept of a "Government by the people, for the people" has worked exactly the way our founding fathers intended. Our public serpents have heard the voice of their constituents and acted according to their wishes by defeating this train wreck of a bill.
In the absence of an actual intellectual argument, proponents of amnesty relied on the lowest common denominator of civil public discourse...when you have no facts to back you up, just call your opponent names like doodyhead, racist, bigot, redneck or nativist.
Apparently the elitist left wingers who were eager for new Democratic voters and the elitist Wall Street Journal right wingers who were frothing at the mouth at the idea of a cheap labor pool were shocked. They were used to having their way while the unwashed masses were busy paying attention to Paris Hilton, American Idol or Anna Nicole Smith.
Americans told them in no uncertain terms: We are not stupid. We are performing our civic duty by paying attention to our government. The message is so simple that even a retard can understand it...PROVE TO US THAT YOU CAN ENFORCE THE EXISTING LAWS BEFORE PASSING NEW LAWS THAT YOU CAN'T POSSIBLY ENFORCE.
They claimed that "we haven't read the bill and don't understand it. There are too many moving parts." No. We've read the bill. They haven't. Sure there were some good parts: ending chain migration, increasing the number of visas available for highly skilled employees.
This is certainly not over.
Speaking strictly for myself, I have nothing personally against people trying to come to America to better their lives. Besides the felony crime of breaking into a sovereign nation illegally, the only other "crime" many of these illegals have committed is mowing our lawn, landscaping our yard and picking our fruit. We don't hate anyone.
My parents were first generation LEGAL immigrants. Many of your parents, grandparents and great grandparents came here for the same reason.
We all understand that. What people like Bob Menendez and Mel Martinez don't understand is that when people came here at the turn of the last century there was no welfare state. Come one, come all. If you fail, don't look to the Gubmint to bail you out and provide social services at the taxpayers expense. We are in a different world.
So I am curious and our elected public serpents who were shocked by the outcry from their constituents are too. President Bush is a "lame duck" supposedly. He certainly won't accomplish any new legislative initiatives. However, he still has the power as President to see to it that existing laws are enforced. That means build the fence that was authorized and funded in October of 2006.
Then come back to us and talk about Comprehensive Immigration Reform. If the border were truly secure, would you be in favor of a similar bill?
No. We need law abiding citizens in this country. We need countries that strive to better themselves on our borders.
Secure the border. Blanket amnesty is foolish.
These people have to learn that their time here has ended.
Legal Immigration on the other hand I'm all for.
No.
Not just no, but hell no.
No amnesty for illegal businesses!
Send 'em home. Build a wall to keep 'em out. If they want in, tell 'em to get in line.
No. Cut off the welfare, fine the cr*p out of the employers, and deport anyone who crosses the path of law enforcement at any level.
Hell no. Even more, I’d round up the illegals, their families, dogs, cats, chickens and goats, drug them and plant RFI chips and GPS locators subcutaneously in all of them and deport them in handcuffs and chains or throw them all in prison and make them work to pay back all that they’ve cost us and taken in jobs.
There’s more that I would do too, but that’s a longer discussion.
How about this: They can never be legal voting citizens, but if the border fence is built in it's entirety, they can be legal permanent residents or at least guest workers?
I agree with post #9. NO! and stop anchor babies.
No. I still say build a concentration camp or two for illegal aliens, the rest will get themselves out of the country ASAP and then we seal the borders and enforce our laws. Simple. ;^)
No! The current crop of illegals can’t even be made legal by going home.
Reverse the flow, clean out the stable and bring in a true crop of thoroughbred stallions (maybe better make that geldings).
No. Illegal is "illegal." Go back to start.
BTW, we all know that "securing the border" is a myth. Even the Iron Curtain couldn't secure a border, and they were trying a lot harder than we ever would.
Nah!
Even if the entire double sided border fence were actually built as authorized?
I would be in favor of something along these lines ... once the borders are proved secure, the flow of under wage no tax workers stopped ...
then offer a 90 day period for all illegal aliens to appear and get a temporary secure ID permit to stay, pending a background and health check.
At the end of 90 days everyone who did not show, when caught would be deported, no excuses.
Once the background check etc clears, then grant a 2-3 year work permit. If they had overstayed their visa, out they go. Flunk the background check, deport.
NO path to citizenship, the citizenship line forms where the line is.
Work permits are renewable 3 times or so, then they must go home. There are other existing ways to stay, green cards still work fine, and other forms of visas exist.
This would return the borders to some sibilance of regular order instead of chaos.
So I guess that puts me into no AMNESTY, but working is OK, which we are told is all the illegals want in the first place ...Right?
I think that most of these “no, hell no” responses might have been different, had the government secured the borders and THEN brought up amnesty.
I think this whole thing just left a bad taste in everyone’s mouth. I know it did mine.
They’ll be voting and on welfare inside a year.
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