What's the Rush?

ProLifeblogs ^ | June 27 2007 | plb

[8mmMauser]

That's the question Bobby Schindler asked in the case involving Jesse Ramirez, the Arizona man whose case paralleled that of Schindler's sister, Terri Schiavo, until Ramirez woke up. The Arizona Republic reports:

...Bobby Schindler of the Florida-based Terri Schindler Shiavo Foundation placed the blame on a medical establishment quick to dismiss patients with brain injuries.

Schindler is the brother of Terri Schiavo, a brain-damaged Florida woman who died in 2005 after a decades-long court battle.

"What is the rush?" he asked. "This is not the first time we've heard of cases like this where doctors want to write off the chance of recovery, and the family, when they're told this, will make a decision to end a person's life.

"In the case of Mr. Ramirez, he'd be dead now."

Why is Jesse alive? His family sought legal intervention with the help of the Alliance Defense Fund:

His siblings and parents refused to give him up for dead, and today, Jesse Ramirez is alive and conscious.

Two weeks ago, he was the center of a family battling over of whether he should live or die.

Now, he can hug and kiss, nod his head, answer yes and no questions, give a thumbs-up sign and sit in a chair.

Related:

A Miracle for Jesse Ramirez and His Family

Jesse Ramirez Conscious, Moved To Rehab Facility

Accident victim awakens

[T'wit]

Our hearts cry out for revenge for the hedgehog after it to schnigel-schnageled by the agel. Let's attack Poland.

[8mmMauser]

Oh no! Putin is doing the Hitler Youth thing, really...

Thanks narses, also for the ping to above post.

Remember the mammoths, say the clean-cut organisers at the youth camp's mass wedding. "They became extinct because they did not have enough sex. That must not happen to Russia".

Obediently, couples move to a special section of dormitory tents arranged in a heart-shape and called the Love Oasis, where they can start procreating for the motherland.

Sex for the motherland: Russian youths encouraged to procreate at camp

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[8mmMauser]

The hedegehog would have enjoyed Putin’s Russia as in the post above...

[T'wit]

Why isn't this information on the front page?

"Over the last few years, we've realized that virtually every tissue of the adult body has adult stem cells," he said.

Adult stem cells can be collected from bone marrow, amniotic fluid, the placenta, testicular tissue, cord blood and nasal tissue, he said, adding that the cells "are very flexible" when used to treat a number of diseases or injuries.

"After a heart attack, some of the heart tissue is damaged or dead," Prentice stated. "We can now inject these adult-type stem cells into the damaged part of the heart and stimulate repair of that tissue."

[T'wit]

>> "Because of the limited number of [abortion] providers unfortunately women have to travel long distances," he said.

How long is the trip to Hell?

[8mmMauser]

They must have been thinking of Steven Seagal. He had a friend, named Emma, I think.

[8mmMauser]

Wife was standing next to him in a line at Orly Airport, Paris a few years back, did not know who he was. He was very friendly and helped carry her bags. He told her he was an actor.

[8mmMauser]

New thread by Diago on our good ole Sanger!

In her autobiography, Margaret Sanger tells us that in 1926 in Silver Lake, New Jersey, she spoke at a Ku Klux Klan rally. Not surprisingly, the made-for-TV movie about Sanger, Choices of the Heart: The Margaret Sanger Story , forgot to mention Maggie's Klan rally speech, but the event has begun to get more attention of late from some commentators.

Rereading Sanger's own account of her Ku Klux Klan speech, one thing really jumped out at me the other day. Here are some of the more relevant passages:

After Ku Klux Klan Speech: A dozen invitations to speak to similar groups

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[T'wit]

It is my studied opinion that youth do not need any encouragement whatsoever to fool around.

[T'wit]

Tell wife I wouldn't have known who he was either. An actor, you say?

[8mmMauser]

That’s what he said. I tuned to one of his movies and wife said, yes that’s him. But she didn’t care to watch the movie or any others of his, just said he was a decent sort of guy with a ponytail and let it go at that.

[8mmMauser]

>>It is my studied opinion that youth do not need any encouragement whatsoever to fool around.

From the old USSR I remember they would have needed all the encouragement they could get. The ladies there as I remember in those days were not uhhhh alluring.

[T'wit]

OK, I googled "Steven Seagal Emma" to see what the fuss was about. Steven is hunky but in numerous photos from many different angles, appears to have only one expression. This is not promising for an acting career.

The Emma who came up is one Emma Watson who just turned 17 yesterday. She's just a little gull. Happy birthday, Emma.

[T'wit]

>> From the old USSR I remember they would have needed all the encouragement they could get.

They got it! The state paid a bounty for child-bearing. They even gave out medals for Stakhanovite hero-mothers. Many a Sovietski housewife made ends meet by periodically splitting a liter of vodka with Ivan and turning the lights off (if they had lights).

[8mmMauser]

Monomaniac had a thread on Jesse Ramirez. It was recently resurrected.

Phoenix, AZ (LifeNews.com) -- Arizona resident Jesse Ramirez was severely injured in a car crash in a May 30 car accident and a legal battle ensued over the man's life. It pitted his wife and family against each other over whether his life support should be maintained but now Ramirez has awaken from the coma appears to be on the road to recovery.

Ramirez, 36, suffered traumatic brain injury in the accident and he had been in a minimally conscious state for just over a week when doctors told his family he may never recover.

His wife made the decision to have his feeding tube removed in the same way Terri's former husband made the decision for her.

Jesse Ramirez Wakes From Coma as Terri Schiavo-Type Battle Rages

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[floriduh voter]

Mitt Romney doesn't want to debate in St. Pete cuz this is TERRI'S HOME and also the HOME OF GREER'S FRIEND MEL SEMBLER, A BIG ROMNEY DONOR.

Romney can't play both sides and say anythng pro-life about Terri while his hands are bloodied with Mel Sembler's monies (and all subsidiaries).

[floriduh voter]

bttt. Everett Rice's profile in paper today. He works at a law firm that represents corrupt judges. There will be conflicts of interest in the future. If the Pinellas Cty Commission is nailed by Bernie McCabe's Grand Jury (is it faux grand jury), they will want to call Cohen's law firm. There were be more conflicts of interest but who's counting?

By the way, property appraisor ASKED STATE ATTY MCCABE to investigate his land deal to clear his name. How many defendants get the opportunity to ask the state attorney to clear their name? MCCABE CLEARED MICHAEL SCHIAVO's name although his nursing license was fraudulently obtained and Mikey & the murderers killed a woman. Can a Bernie MCCabe grand jury be impartial when all of Bernie's friends from the Cty Commission are potential DEFENDANTS? Why didn't Bernie recuse and send matter to HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY?

Bernie's magic touch for the Pinellas GOP gang may exonerate them all. Racketeering? Naw, not here. LOL LOL LOL THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO MURDERED TERRI!

http://www.judgegeorgegreer.com

[floriduh voter]

Through the grapevine. Mikey has CHEATED on Jodi. Is she next???? Jodi didn't want Terri to be murdered but it is alleged Felos gave Mikey an ultimatum. Was it blackmail? Could be.

Jodi, don't spend any money on your hair and get out now.

[floriduh voter]

DUNCAN HUNTER CHART:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1873386/posts?page=66

[floriduh voter]

CANADA AND U.S. are not killing Seniors with kindness. They are drugging them to death (people who end up stuck on Medicaid particularly).

They don't need dehydration cuz they are POISONING PATIENTS TO DEATH and you won't see any mention of pharmaceuticals on autopsy reports.

Silent euthanasia through chemistry.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/seniorsdrugs/

Does Father Pavone have an opinion on people being killed by prescription drugs in hospitals, hospitals and nursing homes? It seems to me Priests for Life should research via survey how many Americans KNOW their relative was drugged to death.

[floriduh voter]

Here's a TERRI BLOG from the day she was murdered after previous attempts by THE GOVERNMENT on behalf of the world's most successful blackmailer, bar none. THE TRUTH WILL COME OUT. NON-BELIEVERS, TERRI WAS MURDERED.

http://www.babalublog.com/archives/001533.html

[floriduh voter]

PHARMACEUTICAL EUTHANASIA. Ask questions. Don’t lose a loved one to this new tactic.

[bjs1779]

They don't need dehydration cuz they are POISONING PATIENTS TO DEATH and you won't see any mention of pharmaceuticals on autopsy reports.

That is true, FV.

[8mmMauser]

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I was preparing a reply to Greg Hanifl’s broad-brush letter in your July 23 issue when I was diverted by the headline in the July 25 issue and sent my objection in my message of yesterday.

Just as well because this morning’s paper carries the excellent rebuttal by Mr. Ferrara. I can only add that my investigation of Mr. Hanifl’s allegations turned up only Mr. Ferrara’s (et al) love for the Catholic Latin Mass and certain other things changed in the Church after Vatican II. Jews were only mentioned in the context of whether or not they could enter Heaven by their original God-given covenant or must be converted to Jesus Christ for that entry. This raised only the argument as to whether or not the Jew should be a target of evangelization; definitely not the target of hate. Christians evangelize only in love for the non-Christian.

Unless you edited out some of Mr. Hanifl’s letter (certainly within your purview), his inference that Christian Identity is one of the 12 hate groups in Wisconsin is probably misplacing them from the Southwest.

And then he attempts to refute my statement that pro-life people would not endorse CI, by claiming that Mr Ferrara, through his defense of martyr Terri Schiavo, is therefore a pro-life person, and with his associates, are haters who endorse Christian Identity. My limited investigation on the Internet shows that CI’s approval of violence is true and that some has been carried out.

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Good rebuttal by Ferrara

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[8mmMauser]

Feinting with damn praise...

If not for Mel's illustrious Hollywood resume, this guy woulda been blackballed a long time ago. But no, to counter each of his numerous media-covered outbursts (The homophobic rant in '92 - "Do I sound like a homosexual? Do I talk like them? Do I move like them? I think not."; The Terri Schiavo rant of '05 - "It's nothing more than state-sanctioned murder."; The anti-semetic rant of '06 - "F*cking Jews are responsible for all the wars in the world") the actor/director released a piece of cinematic mastery that ensured that his legend would not be squashed. Not this time.

Mel Gibson

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[8mmMauser]

Abortionists unmasked again in this thread by wagglebee...

Detroit, MI (LifeNews.com) -- After the Supreme Court upheld the national ban on partial-birth abortions, some abortion businesses are so desperate to continue doing legal second-trimester abortions that they are willing to put women's health at risk by misusing a drug for heart conditions to do the abortions.

The partial-birth abortion ban made it clear that abortion practitioners can't mostly deliver an unborn child before doing the abortion and killing her.

To get around the ban, they are using the drug digoxin to kill the baby inside the mother's womb and then cause the mother to miscarry the dead baby's body.

Abortion Centers Misuse Heart Drug Digoxin to Do "Partial-Birth" Abortions

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[8mmMauser]

Making a killing in England... Thread by wagglebee.

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Essex, England (LifeNews.com) -- A British woman has been awarded more than $55,000 after a hospital did an abortion her and killed her unborn child without her consent. Teresa Cooper, a 40 year-old mother of three, went to Princess Alexandra hospital in Harlow when she worried that antibiotics she took to combat an E.coli infection could have hurt her baby.

According to the lawsuit she filed against the hospital, Copper said doctors there failed to give her information on the health of her baby before doing the abortion.

Cooper signed an informed consent form for the abortion but two days later watched a pro-life video that changed her mind about going through with it.

When she finally arrived at the hospital for the scheduled abortion, Cooper said she only wanted to have it if doctors determined the drugs she took for the infection had damaged her baby.

Instead, she was taken immediately into surgery and the abortion was done, killing the baby.

British Woman Compensated for Abortion Done Without Her Consent

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[8mmMauser]

Suspicions confirmed. Thread by Coleus.

A San Francisco transplant surgeon was criminally charged today with allegedly attempting to hasten the death last year of a 26-year-old disabled man on life support in order to harvest his organs more quickly. The charges are the first in the nation against a physician for his role in a transplant and are sure to raise further uneasiness about a somewhat controversial practice in which organs are retrieved before a patient is brain-dead.

The San Luis Obispo County district attorney's office accused Dr. Hootan Roozrokh, 33, of dependent adult abuse, administering a harmful substance and prescribing an unlawful controlled substance without legitimate medical purpose. The surgeon allegedly ordered massive amounts of narcotic painkillers and sedatives for Ruben Navarro, a physically and mentally disabled man, "to accelerate Mr. Navarro's death," according to a written release from the district attorney. In addition, Roozrokh is accused of administering Betadine, a topical antiseptic, into Navarro's stomach.

Transplant surgeon, allegedly seeking organs, is charged with trying to hasten patient's death

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[Dante3]

Another example of somebody who has no business being a doctor.

[Lesforlife]

Wasn’t that what Gonzales v Carhart suggested?

[8mmMauser]

A slice of Seattle PI, sort of an MRI scan summary of a liberal brain.

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The candidate turned out to be impressive, but our initial introduction was a bit awkward.

Seattle City Council hopeful Tim Burgess kept returning to the point that he was a pro-choice Democrat, although running for a non-partisan office that has no power to amend Roe v. Wade.

Eventually it dawned on me: Burgess was anticipating some flak, or had received incoming fire, because he and his wife are religious people who belong to a traditionalist church.

In certain circles, being a Presbyterian -- or goin' to meetings, period -- can lay you low in the Emerald City.

This column has, on occasion, scorched religious-right leaders who impose litmus tests on candidates, define what they call a "Values Voter" and manipulate the Gospels in pursuit of temporal power.

Unfortunately, there's a flip side to the equation: We have, especially in this "unchurched" corner of America, a faction that actively mocks religion and seeks to stigmatize people of faith.

Accurately and bluntly, it's the last form of bigotry that is socially acceptable.

A case in point: Rep. Dave Reichert, R-Wash., recently committed the secular sin of voting to deny federal dollars to Planned Parenthood. He also has supported federal funding for faith-based organizations.

On Seattle's Capitol Hill, The Stranger set out to explain these votes in terms of Reichert's religious affiliation: He is a member of the conservative Lutheran Church -- Missouri Synod.

While saying he felt "uncomfortable" bringing up the matter, the author concluded: "It's time to make things uncomfortable for those who would force their religious values on others."

No evidence was presented that Reichert was following dictates from his denomination.

Whether you like him or loathe him, there's contrary evidence that the "Gentleman from Washington" is a) open to persuasion, and b) willing to buck his party when he feels strongly about something.

Reichert went south on House Majority Leader Tom DeLay in 2005, a month after coming to Congress, when DeLay tried to have Congress intervene to keep alive the comatose Terri Schiavo. Reichert also has supported stem-cell research legislation vetoed by President Bush.

We have plenty of evidence, across the spectrum, of public officials taking positions that conflict with leaders of their religious affiliation.

Gov. Chris Gregoire is a practicing Catholic. She was, however, the keynote speaker at a May breakfast of NARAL Pro-Choice Washington, raising campaign dollars for candidates who support abortion rights.

Gregoire and other leading pro-choice Catholics coexist, at times uneasily, with a strongly anti-abortion pastor at St. Michael Parish in Olympia.

Congress is home to a trio of cousins from one of the West's great Mormon clans. Reps. Tom Udall, D-N.M., and Mark Udall, D-Colo., are moderate Democrats. Both voted in favor of the ban on partial-birth abortions but opposed banning gays from the Boy Scouts.

Sen. Gordon Smith, R-Ore., a former bishop in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, is one of the most conscience-driven politicians in America. But a conscience can drive you in different directions. Smith is anti-abortion and has opposed Oregon's assisted-suicide policy -- but was one of the first Republican senators to speak out against the Iraq war.

Smith sponsored an amendment that included gays and lesbians in federal hate-crime legislation. Judy Shepard, mother of slain Wyoming college student Matthew Shepard, praised the Oregon Republican in a TV spot.

Stereotyping, demeaning critics tend to depict those of traditional faith as "narrow," "reactionary" or bent on "imposing" their particular set of beliefs. They are, in fact, as far off base as those in the fundamentalist camp who bash gays and freak out over feminism.

One example comes to mind. Under a new, authoritarian leadership, the Lutheran Church -- Missouri Synod in the early 1970s cracked down on Concordia Seminary. The seminary's faculty was dismissed and a large body of students chose to leave.

The exiles from Concordia simply crossed town, where they were welcomed into the divinity school at Jesuit-run Saint Louis University.

Who welcomed them? The dean at Saint Louis U. was future Seattle University President (and 1990 Seattle First Citizen) Father William Sullivan.

In reading The Stranger, it became evident that the author of the article about Reichert had not talked with Reichert. Its only direct quote was boilerplate from Karen Cooper, executive director of NARAL Pro-Choice Washington.

People surprise you when you hear them out. Shortly before his death, former Missouri Sen. Tom Eagleton, a Catholic and abortion opponent, bucked his church's leadership and provided pivotal support to a state ballot measure approving stem cell research.

Or Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, who has proclaimed: "As a right-to-life senator, I believe that a critical part of a pro-life, pro-family philosophy is helping the living. ... The purpose of (stem cell) research is to save life, not terminate it."

Faith in America will never be a product of dogma, discipline and docility.

It deserves better than to be manipulated by those with a political agenda, or stigmatized by bigots who feign sophistication.

P-I columnist Joel Connelly can be reached at 206-448-8160 or joelconnelly@seattlepi.com. Follow his political blog at blog.seattlepi.com/seattlepolitics.

Religious faithful in office deserve better

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[8mmMauser]

Thread by wagglebee on a threat to Pro-Life...

Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- A leading pro-life organization is concerned that the Senate could adopt amendments to a SCHIP reauthorization bill that could prevent older Americans from protecting themselves from health care rationing. The group says that such rationing can easily lead to the withdrawal of lifesaving medical treatment and euthanasia.

Pro-Life Group Concerned Congress Could Ration Lifesaving Treatment

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[8mmMauser]

Wrongful birth???? Thread by wagglebee:

Tallahassee, FL (LifeNews.com) -- Florida pro-life advocates are condemning a recent Florida court case which saw a couple receive $23.5 million for the so-called "wrongful birth" of their child. Daniel and Amara Estrada received the award after a court found their physician should have warned them their baby could have physical disabilities.

The Estradas had given birth to their first child, Aiden, who was born with Smith-Lemli-Opitz syndrome.

Children afflicted with the condition have small heads, webbed toes, are unable to communicate and require feeding tubes to receive food and water.

Florida Pro-Life Advocates Condemn "Wrongful Birth" Lawsuit Award

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[wagglebee]

It seems that Paris Hilton is going to do a musical about organ harvesting.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1874139/posts
http://asia.news.yahoo.com/070801/ap/d8qnu7uo0.html

[T'wit]

>> Florida pro-life advocates are condemning a recent Florida court case which saw a couple receive $23.5 million for the so-called "wrongful birth" of their child.

"Wrongful life" -- another amazing invention by trial lawyers to screw somebody out of bundles of money. This one will make eight or ten million for the lawyers. It will also put the medical profession on notice once again that it's time to move to New South Wales.

[floriduh voter]

Has anybody covered the Tenet Hospital doctor who overdosed a guy so he could harvest his organs? The day before, the Tenet hospital put betadyne in his feeding tube to prep his innards for removal. The patient Navarro didn't die from that and from life support removal so a doctor who looks like he was educated in a foreign country, gave Navarro a deadly cocktail.

WITHOUT THE FAMILY'S PERMISSION. Mom said Navarro was not in life threatening shape when he was at this hospital and in approx. FOUR DAYS without any word from the docs, Navarro went from disabled to dead.

JEB BUSH IS ON THE TENET BOARD. Jeb Bush, how many disabled people are being euthanized on your watch? We know about TERRI SCHIAVO and now NAVARRO. Who else? Jeb can never run for anything. He's taken up with ORGAN HARVESTERS AND EUTHANASIASTS! Jeb's fans are clueless.

[8mmMauser]

Wife suspects from the looks on her face and that of her pals she must be evil to the core as if possessed. She thinks maybe that is why gramps cut off the $60mil and why somehow certain people are drawn to her.

[floriduh voter]

PHARMACEUTICAL EUTHANASIA. (posted 7-30-07). News broke of organ harvest killing on 7-31-07. Maybe someday doubters who think we live in a spooky fantasy world will realize that all these killings are REAL. It is part of the agenda of a new world order. This is why people against illegal immigration amnesty should not look down upon pro-lifers but unite w/them.

We are fighting the same fight against globalization because George Soros is behind euthanasia, destruction of our middle class and for globalization. He hates this country.

[floriduh voter]

Nancy Grace covered Navarro last night. Other media is under-reporting Navarro’s premeditated overdose. Gee, it’s the same media who wanted Terri killed and repeatedly misdiagnosed her. Big surprise.

[floriduh voter]

JEB BUSH IS ON THE TENET BOARD. Jeb Bush, how many disabled people are being euthanized on your watch? We know about TERRI SCHIAVO and now NAVARRO. Who else? Jeb can never run for anything. He’s taken up with ORGAN HARVESTERS AND EUTHANASIASTS! Jeb’s fans are clueless.

[Sun]

I did hear about the Tenet Hospital doctor - EVIL, EVIL.

And we can only wonder about how often this happens and we do NOT hear about it.

[wagglebee]

She should go back to making homemade porno movies in hotel rooms and then leaking them on the internet.

[8mmMauser]

Check out the link in my #578 to the thread and then to the article for suspicions confirmed.

[8mmMauser]

You mean she stopped?

Wife and I spent our honeymoon long time ago in the Hilton in Paris. Mercifully, it was long before this thing came along.

[floriduh voter]

Tony Snow wants to live. So did TERRI SCHIAVO.

[floriduh voter]

The female doctor with the drugs in NOLA reminds me of Attorney Deathknell who stole Terri's rehab monies and guarded the hospice front door so Terri would finally be dead - really dead.

http://www.judgegeorgegreer.com (about the players, about the money, about the dirty dealings, about Mitt Romney's big donor MEL SEMBLER. Romney is tied to GREER. I will stay home rather than vote for ROMNEY OR GIULIANI. They are both tied to Florida's elected euthanazis.

[floriduh voter]

Terri haters must be conflicted these days. They are strongly against amnesty for illegals which was pushed by this administration but were wickedly against an American, Terri Schindler Schiavo. It's impossible to be against globalization but for euthanizing/killing Americans concurrently.

Poor things. How can they hate George Soros and Terri at the same time but they do.

[floriduh voter]

BREYER makes good ice cream but horrible justices.

[floriduh voter]

Arlen has some hair. Phil Spectre does wigs. One sells bs and the other used to sell music.

[floriduh voter]

Rush hasn’t forgotten about Terri. That’s nice to read. The debate in St Pete by the GOP preztitutes may never occur. Terri was killed there and Mitt’s money is from there. Mitt is six degrees from J. Greer.