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What's the Rush?
ProLifeblogs ^ | June 27 2007 | plb

Posted on 07/01/2007 3:27:40 AM PDT by 8mmMauser

Edited on 07/02/2007 4:50:59 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

That's the question Bobby Schindler asked in the case involving Jesse Ramirez, the Arizona man whose case paralleled that of Schindler's sister, Terri Schiavo, until Ramirez woke up. The Arizona Republic reports:

...Bobby Schindler of the Florida-based Terri Schindler Shiavo Foundation placed the blame on a medical establishment quick to dismiss patients with brain injuries.

Schindler is the brother of Terri Schiavo, a brain-damaged Florida woman who died in 2005 after a decades-long court battle.

"What is the rush?" he asked. "This is not the first time we've heard of cases like this where doctors want to write off the chance of recovery, and the family, when they're told this, will make a decision to end a person's life.

"In the case of Mr. Ramirez, he'd be dead now."

Why is Jesse alive? His family sought legal intervention with the help of the Alliance Defense Fund:
His siblings and parents refused to give him up for dead, and today, Jesse Ramirez is alive and conscious.

Two weeks ago, he was the center of a family battling over of whether he should live or die.

Now, he can hug and kiss, nod his head, answer yes and no questions, give a thumbs-up sign and sit in a chair.

Related:

A Miracle for Jesse Ramirez and His Family

Jesse Ramirez Conscious, Moved To Rehab Facility

Accident victim awakens


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: civilrights; giannajessen; jebbush; jesseramirez; jgreer; medialies; parentsrights; schindler; terridailies; terrischiavo
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To: 8mmMauser

My mom really liked Steven Segall. She didn’t really watch his movies but would just mention him now and again. Personally, I liked Mad tv’s impression of him more.


601 posted on 08/01/2007 7:33:44 AM PDT by floriduh voter (Terri's List - 8mmmauser & DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT)
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To: floriduh voter
My mom really liked Steven Segall. She didn’t really watch his movies but would just mention him now and again.

If you've seen one of his movies, you've seen them all.

602 posted on 08/01/2007 7:37:26 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: 8mmMauser

The SCHIP bill takes funds away from disabled and seniors and moves it to the children. The SCHIP bill should be called the useless eater elimination plan. UEEP.


603 posted on 08/01/2007 7:37:48 AM PDT by floriduh voter (Terri's List - 8mmmauser & DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT)
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To: Sun
This is happening all the time but because so many innocent peoplea STILL think doctors are gods. If the doc says anything, the loved ones believe them without any reservations. cues to watch for: "they are failing", "no appetite", "sign here".

Every once in a while one gets caught.

Always ask what all the meds are and do not leave the facility. That is when bad things can happen if there is a rogue staff or doctor. Remember there is big money in organ harvesting. (the free part is the actual organ).

604 posted on 08/01/2007 7:43:12 AM PDT by floriduh voter (Terri's List - 8mmmauser & DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT)
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To: wagglebee

Speaking of same, did you see that video collage of Paris Hilton on one of the posts? It is stunning. Same face, same smile, many different pics.

Steven Seagal was nice to my wife but she had no idea who he was.


605 posted on 08/01/2007 8:03:51 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser
did you see that video collage of Paris Hilton on one of the posts? It is stunning. Same face, same smile, many different pics.

Give the airhead bimbo a break, her handlers tell her to smile and she smiles.

I'm sure Steven Seagal is nice, he's just a horrible actor and after you've seen him break a gun-wielding bad guy's arm once you really don't need to see it again.

606 posted on 08/01/2007 8:09:34 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: 8mmMauser; Jim Robinson
Free Republic gets high ratings again.

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56936

607 posted on 08/01/2007 8:20:37 AM PDT by floriduh voter (Terri's List - 8mmmauser & DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT)
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To: 8mmMauser
Here Free Republic's #3.

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608 posted on 08/01/2007 8:23:30 AM PDT by floriduh voter (Terri's List - 8mmmauser & DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT)
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To: floriduh voter

I just heard that the “doctor” pleaded innocent.

I hope he gets what he deserves.

My dad lost his appetite because of the drugs, and mom insisted that he only take the drugs that he was taking before he entered the hospital - blood pressure, etc.

When the drugs were removed, dad got his appetite back.

I don’t think this hospital was trying to harm him, but doctors and hospitals can be very incompetent at times.

We should all put our heads together and write letters to editors warning folks about the kinds of things that go on, as you mentioned in your last post.


609 posted on 08/01/2007 3:23:27 PM PDT by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-life/borders, understands Red China threat! http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
NAVARRO update

A most unkind cut...

Hopefully this case will grow more legs.

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The San Francisco transplant surgeon charged with three felonies in connection with a failed organ harvest in San Luis Obispo last year was booked at County Jail late Tuesday and released after posting $10,000 bail.

Hootan Roozrokh, 33, is accused of dependent adult abuse, administering a harmful substance (a topical antiseptic) into a human, and prescribing excessive amounts of painkillers and sedatives.

~Snip~

The doctor “looks forward to the opportunity to clear his good name in a court of law and re-establish his reputation as a distinguished and respected surgeon,” according to a statement released by Roozrokh’s lawyer, M. Gerald Schwartzbach, based in Marin County.

The local case is the first of its kind nationally against a transplant surgeon, and experts have cautioned its negative publicity could discourage potential organ donors and transplant surgeons.

Prosecutors allege that on Feb. 3, 2006, Roozrokh, acting as part of the Oakland-based California Transplant Donor Network’s transplant team, attempted to hasten the death of a 25-year-old disabled man, Ruben Navarro.

Doctor in organ donor case posts bail

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610 posted on 08/02/2007 3:30:43 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All
In case anyone is reading the International Herald Trib these days, this is just out. They left out the part on how it was done with Terri. Maybe they figure most of the facts or maybe some of the facts is good enough...

A 38-year-old man who spent more than five years in a mute, barely conscious state as a result of a severe head injury is now communicating regularly with family members and recovering his ability to move after having his brain stimulated with pulses of electric current, neuroscientists are reporting.

"I still cry every time I see him, but now it's tears of joy," said the man's mother, in a conference call with reporters Wednesday. Her name was withheld, to protect the patient's privacy. "He can speak, he can watch movies without falling asleep, he can say Mom and Pop, and 'I love you, Mommy.' "

~Snip~

Doctors have long used the implant surgery, known as deep brain stimulation, to treat Parkinson's disease. Over the past two decades they have also performed it on a handful of people with brain injuries, including Terry Schiavo, the Florida woman who died in 2005 after her feeding tube was removed amid a national debate over her care.

In many of those cases, like Schiavo's, the brain was so profoundly damaged that the operation made no difference.

Electrodes awaken a brain muted by a mugging after 5 years

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611 posted on 08/02/2007 3:38:32 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All
It is essential that the media treats Terri as the exception as the same great work could help anyone else in the universe except Terri. After all doing so would suggest they took the wrong side...

Here is another summary:

The doctors cautioned that their results, reported in today's issue of the journal Nature, would not apply to patients like Terri Schiavo, the Florida woman whose life became a sociopolitical flash point.

She was in a persistent vegetative state, whereas the male patient — whose name was withheld — had clung to consciousness and had large regions of his brain intact. Indeed, Schiavo was given a similar implant that had no effect.

Implants give brain-injured man new life

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612 posted on 08/02/2007 3:44:25 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All
This is excerpted from an article today by Joseph Farah of WND. And I thought the Amish library and knitting club was scary...

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Think of all the dangerous characters lurking around our schoolchildren these days:

With all these threats to the safety and well-being of their students, guess who school authorities in the state of Florida have targeted with more than one prosecution?

The answer: Two member of the Gideons International, those dangerous subversives who give away Bibles to anyone interested – including students walking to and from school.

~Snip~


That might have been the end of it – and the whole thing could have been chalked up to some bad decisions by inexperienced local officials. But this is Florida – the state that gave Terri Schiavo the death penalty for her inability to eat without assistance. This is the state that might still be counting and recounting hanging chads if the U.S. Supreme Court didn't intervene.

Those subversive Gideons

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613 posted on 08/02/2007 3:52:38 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All
Say it ain't so, Mr. President! Why, this guy had uhhhh a RINOplasty.

As I wait eagerly for that wall against illegals to be built, I read this!

Rep. Dave Reichert's 8th District voted twice against President Bush, but the GOP congressman will welcome Bush's fund-raising help next month while inadvertently underscoring the campaign themes of his election opponents.

Democratic congressional candidate Darcy Burner – not the White House, and not Reichert's office – said Wednesday that Bush will appear at a fund-raising reception for Reichert's 2008 re-election campaign and the state Republican Party in Bellevue Aug. 27.

~Snip~

Reichert has sought to portray himself as an independent lawmaker, pointing to his differences with the White House on such issues as his support for stem cell research and his vote against keeping brain-dead Terry Schiavo on life support.

Bush to raise funds for Reichert

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614 posted on 08/02/2007 4:05:11 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser
UF, Dr. Death, errrr, something like that...

The “Rosa Parks” of euthanasia is coming to Gainesville in October to proselytize for his cause at the invitation of a University of Florida student organization. But Jack Kevorkian is not coming just to spread his morally repugnant message of physician-assisted suicide. He’ll be paid $50,000 for his trouble.

Only days after being released from a Michigan prison on parole for his second-degree murder conviction of a man suffering from Lou Gehrig’s disease, Accent, UF’s student speaker’s bureau, was the first to invite Kevorkian to speak about his immoral mission. According to Kevorkian’s attorney, the former pathologist has accepted the invitation and will earn the big payday—and it’s likely Kevorkian’s speech at UF will be his first, although other speaking requests are coming in.

~Snip~

Kevorkian’s Oct. 11 speech is drawing criticism from Bobby Schindler, brother of Terri Schindler Schiavo, the severely brain-damaged woman who died in 2005 after her feeding tube was removed by court order. As head of the Terri Schindler Schiavo Foundation, Schindler has begun a petition drive to UF president and the Student Government Association (of which Accent is a part) asking that the invitation to Kevorkian be rescinded.

“It is unacceptable for the University of Florida to give a platform to Jack Kevorkian, a man who willfully helped take people’s lives, some of whose only ailment was depression, and pay him $50,000 to spread his violent message of ‘mercy killing’ to the students of the University of Florida,” the petition asserts. The petition can be accessed online at http://tool.donation-net./TSSF/DrDeath.cfm?dn=1068&refer=2000.

‘Dr. Death’ at U.F.

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615 posted on 08/02/2007 4:10:22 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; TheSarce; neverdem
Here is a thread on the electrode method by neverdem. Thanks to TheSarce.

In the latest case study, neuroscientists describe how they implanted electrodes in the brain of a 38-year-old man who had been in a minimally conscious state for more than six years following a serious assault. By electrically stimulating a brain region called the central thalamus, they were able to help him name objects on request, make precise hand gestures, and chew food without the aid of a feeding tube (see page 600). The thalamus is involved in motor control, arousal and in relaying sensory signals — from the visual systems, for example — to the cerebral cortex, the part of the brain involved in consciousness.

Implant boosts activity in injured brain - Deep-brain stimulation offers hope for minimally...

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616 posted on 08/02/2007 4:15:46 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; ElkGroveDan; TheSarce; BykrBayb; Tajitaw
Ping to a thread by ElkGroveDan on the electrode story. Thanks to The Sarce and Bykrbayb. BB is looking for an article on Mikey's observations, on post #35. Anyone have a copy?

NEW YORK - A brain-damaged man who could communicate only with slight eye or thumb movements for six years can speak again, after stimulating electrodes were placed in his brain, researchers report.

The 38-year-old also regained the ability to chew and swallow, which allows him to be spoon-fed, rather than relying on nourishment through a tube in his belly.

Brain-injured man speaks after 6 years

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617 posted on 08/02/2007 4:23:59 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee
Thread by wagglebee...

Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- The House of Representatives is expected to vote on a bill today that would significantly impact the abortion debate in the nation. The measure would undermine a current policy allowing states to provide medical coverage for pregnant women and their unborn children and could open the door for tax-funded abortions.

In 2002, the Department of Health and Human Services issued a regulation to allow states to cover mothers and their unborn babies under the SCHIP program for poor residents.

House to Vote on Bill Revoking Prenatal Care for Unborn, Backing Abortion

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618 posted on 08/02/2007 4:27:57 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee
And this thread from wagglebee...

Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- A top pro-life organization is asking members of the House to vote against a bill concerning Medicare over concerns that it could lead to euthanasia. National Right to Life wants lawmakers to oppose the Children's Health and Medicare Protection Act (CHAMP Act) because it could ration lifesaving medical treatment.

NRLC says the bill, in its current form, would "prevent older Americans from protecting themselves from rationing."

Pro-Life Group Tells House to Oppose CHAMP Act Over Euthanasia Worries

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619 posted on 08/02/2007 4:31:56 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee
It is pathological...

Thread by wagglebee.

SOUTHAMPTON, United Kingdom, August 1, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) - A National Health Service hospital lied to the mother of a miscarried baby, saying that they had cremated her child's body, when it was actually being stored in their pathology lab.

33-year old Lisa Bertelsen from Millbrook, Southampton wanted to have a memorial ceremony for her baby that she naturally miscarried in December of last year. The hospital contacted her to say that they still had the child's remains after preserving the body for sixth months.

Hospital Keeps Fetus in Pathology Lab, Lies to Mother and Says It was Cremated

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620 posted on 08/02/2007 4:35:49 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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